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It's not the "vibes" that's the issue-it's associating every aspect of the economy to the President.

Trump would be getting the blame too right now for economic woes.

No he wouldn’t. We’d hear about how “I did so good until China sent that virus and ruined it”

Just like when Trump wins and fixes nothing we will hear “It was SUCH a big mess it was IMPOSSIBLE to fix it in just four years”

This. Say what you will about Trump, but he's a political genius at messaging. Meanwhile Biden's got dementia and is trotted out by his handlers for speeches. It's elder abuse.

Am I the only one that absolutely loves Jasmine Crockett…

But don’t stoop to MTG level because one of Crocketts best qualities is that she responds to MAGA BS by being sharp effective but also CORRECT and INFORMED

I didn't know jasmine crockett existed till uh right now.. she basically a who to me
But MTG i know her saw some tweet read her Wikipedia page and well She seem like a another republican representatives that make a lot of news.

[Good lord Putin got under you guys's skin with the election interference stuff which is about the only reason I can think of why you're being so intense about this]

Crimea+Donetsk+Luhansk going to Russia and Ukraine joining NATO (or some other defensive agreement that has teeth to ensure this doesn't happen again) is the absolute floor. Ideally of course, Russia leaving entirely and Ukraine joining NATO, but that seems unlikely.

One of the few serious posts here and about what I would say.

Good lord Putin got under you guys's skin with the election interference stuff which is about the only reason I can think of why you're being so intense about this. You wuss out in Afghanistan, want Israel to roll over and just let Hamas take over their country, but then you don't want Ukraine to give up one foot of land even if it means WWII casualties. Some of you are even talking about regime change in Russia which presumably means starting WWIII and invading and hoping it goes better than all the other times in history that's been tried.

As I've said before if this is what it looks like when you're on someone's side in a war than you clearly weren't on the US's side against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre Now kindly go shove it

Well the Taliban committed all kinds of atrocities against civilians and it took significantly less loss of life to stop them than it would for the kind of total victory against Russia that all of you seem to want here. Yet most of you were fine letting them take over Afghanistan, it's not logical so have those two positions in concert, there's just some kind of emotional bias here.

Or Afghanistan was a 20 year, several thousand US troops died, trillion dollar project that ended up being in vain as the local population didn’t care if the Taliban was in charge or not vs Ukraine a 3 year war, no U.S. troop death project for a country that actually wants to fight the enemy. But why worry about details when you can do a fake virtual signal like a douche

Well a hell of a lot more than "several thousand people" have gotten killed here and Russia's certainly not worse than the Taliban, so the moral calculus doesn't make any sense. If anything you could argue the other way around: taking relatively light casualties to stop the Taliban in Afghanistan would be worth it but with hundreds of thousands getting killed in Ukraine the war needs to end as quickly as possible to stop loss of life on that scale even if it means a non optimum outcome. Or you could support both or be opposed to both, but not do what you guys are doing.

The rhetoric is just so much tougher here from the left than for any other armed conflict I can think of, usually you just want to roll over and let the aggressor push everyone around because you're so afraid of war.  We have a guy arguing on the second page that the US should be willing to get nuked for Ukraine. So a few thousand soldiers dying to stop the Taliban is too much but hundreds of thousands or even millions dying for Ukraine is ok.

(Citation needed)

Russia doesn't execute gay people, force people to convert at swordpoint, or treat women as the legal property of men and ban them from even learning to read. I'm a straight man and even I'd rather live in Russia than Taliban Afghanistan and that would be 10x the case if I were a woman or gay.

Regardless, quibbling about that part of it is not important, for the sake of argument you can just say they're both authoritarian states and the point still stands. Why is one worth so much loss of life to stop but not the other?

Because again the Afghan people didn’t care about fighting the Taliban while Ukrainians do care about fighting Russia.

All we need is 275 that's what Johnathan Karl on ABC NV, NH, PA, VA, CO, NM, WI and MI and that's without NE or ME 2, Trump is only 3 pts ahead in NE 2 no ME 2 polls and Deb Fisher is tied with Osborn

FF.

Unfortunately yes, though I wouldn't be shocked if there's an October Surprise on that date that puts the final nail in Biden's coffin.

This is a stable race where Donald Trump has a healthy swing state lead. There are pretty much no unknowns to speak of. People know exactly who these two candidates are and it's gonna be extremely hard to change anybody's mind. The "it's only may" excuse may have been useful in the past, but there is very good reason to believe that the 2024 is different than past elections. Tell me exactly what info would make people leave Trump or flock to Biden? For every left wing Biden holdout who caves, there's gonna be a Haley supporter caving in to Trump.

Am I the only one that absolutely loves Jasmine Crockett…

But don’t stoop to MTG level because one of Crocketts best qualities is that she responds to MAGA BS by being sharp effective but also CORRECT and INFORMED

It's not the "vibes" that's the issue-it's associating every aspect of the economy to the President.

Trump would be getting the blame too right now for economic woes.

No he wouldn’t. We’d hear about how “I did so good until China sent that virus and ruined it”

Just like when Trump wins and fixes nothing we will hear “It was SUCH a big mess it was IMPOSSIBLE to fix it in just four years”

The Superbowl had the highest viewership of anything since the Moon Landing, you don’t get those numbers without universal appeal.

Um, that probably had to do something with the current girlfriend of a certain player.

Yes - that didn’t hurt but it was a GREAT matchup. An absolutely loaded team against a team trying to become the first repeat champ since the (first) dynastic Patriots run. And a QB trying to become the GOATNNTB (Greatest of All Time Not Named Tom Brady) and I think the game being in Vegas added to its appeal as well…. music was a letdown though