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May 24, 2024, 03:05:40 PM
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 on: Today at 03:05:20 PM 
Started by Obama24 - Last post by courts
we have too much age based discrimination in the work force as it is

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 on: Today at 03:04:53 PM 
Started by Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi - Last post by Open Source Intelligence
Spent the last hour dealing with further attempts from Andrew Chadderdon (the Mises-aligned Michigan chair where the LNC has been suing the other group for the past year and change) amongst others to disqualify the added delegates from Michigan, Oklahoma. McArdle conferred with a parliamentarian and said she talked about this with others over lunch humorously. They still in the end lost.

Mises don't have the votes, or are scared they don't. (I can see some Mises-adjacent folks but those with an independent mindset thinking "removing delegates is BS".)

A motion was made to vacate the chair and was dismissed.

A motion to rescind Trump's invitation to speak ruled out of order.

National Party Treasurer Hagopian said 2023 income for the party was lowest of the past 20 years. Hagopian is not returning and the credentials shenanigans the past month put him off the Mises-approved bandwagon. He did refuse to answer a question how much money the LNC had spent suing the Libertarian Party of Michigan. Pre-prepared literature was placed at every delegate table comparing what Mises said in 2022 compared to how the past 2 years have gone as far as national membership, fundraising, and election wins (down across the board).

A motion to recess for one hour was defeated.

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 on: Today at 03:04:34 PM 
Started by AncestralDemocrat. - Last post by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
They poll silly Long Island where Gillibrand is gonna easily win and not give us a NH Gov poll that is obnoxious

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 on: Today at 03:04:01 PM 
Started by Hnv1 - Last post by Chancellor Tanterterg
Whether you agree with the IJC or not, this is little more than silly virtue signaling that will ultimately end up making them look impotent when Israel tells them to go piss up a rope and they’re powerless to enforce their ruling beyond a bunch of useless whining.  

It’s cute that they think they get to dictate Israel or any other country’s wartime military strategy, but unfortunately for them, we live in a world of sovereign nations rather than some one world government bureaucratic hellscape.  They have no more say in Israeli military policy than they do in American military policy nor should they.  And I say this as someone who strongly believes that Israel should withdraw from Rafah.

And if the U.N. tries to enforce any of this by force, of course the US will veto it.  Not even a close call.

Biden said that his redline is Rafah.

Is he going to use the US's seat on the UN Security Council to veto his own redline?

Yes. He is.

And even if he took leave of his senses and escalated with Israel like Obama did on his way out the door, it still wouldn't stop Israel from doing what needs to be done. Nothing will.

He would look even weaker and more pathetic.

It's embarrassing that he allows Netanyahu to disrespect him.

He makes the entire US looks weak.

"The US has the right to dictate other countries' foreign policy, up to and including existential issues"
 but leftistly.

That's right.

Israel is the biggest recipient of US aid since World War II, so the US has the right to dictate Israel's foreign policy.


This is one of the most bizarre takes I’ve seen in this thread and that’s saying something.  Not the worst (although it is awful, don’t get me wrong), but certainly one of the most bizarre.  “Israel is the 51st state because we send aid to our allies” is just…woof.  Beyond that, I’ll just say there is a lot to unpack here and leave it at that.

You should look outside the Atlas.

Plenty of analysts have said the same.

Being Israel's biggest arms supplier, the US have plenty of leverage over Israel, but Biden is, for whatever reasons, afraid to use it.

That’s very different than what you said earlier.  That’s some serious backpedaling you’re doing there!  

Anyway, Biden has done everything he reasonably can and then some without taking a pointlessly taking a wrecking ball to American foreign policy interests.  What you’re choosing to ignore is that Israel is a sovereign country and the US can’t simply force them to do what we say if their government is hellbent on doing something else.  

We can influence them and it’s pretty clear from how much more restrained they’ve been in Rafah that this pressure did have some effect.  However, influence and absolute control are extremely different things.  Whether willfully or due to genuine ignorance, you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the difference between an ally and a puppet state.

No, that is what I said earlier.

I had assumed that you would have known that aid from the US to Israel are used to buy weapons.



No, earlier you said the US can dictate Israeli foreign policy because we provide them with aid.  Influence =/= dictate an ally’s foreign policy as though they’re a puppet state

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 on: Today at 03:04:01 PM 
Started by lfromnj - Last post by Associate Justice PiT
     I am impressed by the size of the gap between lawmakers and internet commentators on this issue. Nothing else comes close to this currently other than maybe Israel and Hamas.

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 on: Today at 03:01:53 PM 
Started by dead0man - Last post by President Punxsutawney Phil
The Republic of China is a single province compared to the People's Republic of China's thirty. It is only natural that the latter would have great ability to place pressure on the former.


The RoC is a country not a province no matter what the Winnie the Pooh doppelgänger in beijing says
The ROC government itself acknowledged it had effective control over just one province years ago, lol.
And from a cultural POV provinces are hugely important identity-wise in the Chinese civilization (which Taiwan is part of no matter what anyone claims).
But go off.
It's not like you know much of anything about Chinese civilization anyway. (As far as I'm aware)

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 on: Today at 03:00:45 PM 
Started by Ferguson97 - Last post by Ferguson97
This is genuinely one of the most vile stories I've ever read. These officers are pure sadists.

https://www.sbsun.com/2024/05/23/fontana-pays-nearly-900000-for-psychological-torture-inflicted-by-police-to-get-false-confession/

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Within hours after Thomas Perez Jr. called police to report his father missing, he found himself in a tiny interrogation room confronted by Fontana detectives determined to extract a confession that he killed his dad.

Perez had told police that his father, 71-year-old Thomas Perez Sr., went out for a walk with the family dog at about 10 p.m. on Aug. 7, 2018. The dog returned within minutes without Perez’s father. Investigators didn’t believe his story, and over the next 17 hours they grilled him to try to get to the “truth.”

According to court records, detectives told Perez that his father was dead, that they had recovered his body and it now “wore a toe tag at the morgue.” They said they had evidence that Perez killed his father and that he should just admit it, records show.

Perez insisted he didn’t remember killing anyone, but detectives allegedly told him that the human mind often tries to suppress troubling memories.

At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.

Finally, after curling up with the dog on the floor, Perez broke down and confessed. He said he had stabbed his father multiple times with a pair of scissors during an altercation in which his father hit Perez over the head with a beer bottle.

He was so distraught that he even tried to hang himself with the drawstring from his shorts after being left alone in the interrogation room. Perez was arrested, handcuffed and transported to a mental hospital for 72-hour observation.

But later that day, the truth derailed the detectives’ theory and their prized confession.

Perez’s father wasn’t dead — or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didn’t immediately tell Perez.

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 on: Today at 03:00:43 PM 
Started by 2016 - Last post by Crumpets
There's a "southern border crisis" every election cycle.

Yeah, that ISIS caravan we let in after Dems won the 2018 midterm really made me regret my vote for Maria Cantwell. Cry

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 on: Today at 02:59:48 PM 
Started by Sestak - Last post by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
Puzzling inclusion of flags in the signature for endorsement of American politicians.


Is Polis, Stein, PRITZKER and Bernie and Shapiro Jewish yes they are and aren't Osborn, Tester, Slotkin part of VA or military I guess they are

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 on: Today at 02:58:54 PM 
Started by Obama24 - Last post by Associate Justice PiT
It would be unfair to apply this rule to presidency without having a similar one for Congress or the Supreme Court.

     Honestly not such a bad idea. I don't know if I'd go as far as is posited by the topic creator, but it's a serious problem that we still have the same cadre of career politicians running everything who won't give up power until it's wrested from their cold, dead hands. We should not be so indifferent to the issues caused by having all of our highest offices occupied by dinosaurs.

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