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 on: Today at 12:38:19 PM 
Started by Hnv1 - Last post by afleitch
I hope the penny is starting to drop that war crime after war crime without a war plan (or a peace plan) by a democratic nation that we are supporting and funding, is a more important point of observation than the armchair dismissals of 'well it's not technically a genocide' or 'it's not technically a famine.'

And the peoples strength of feeling about this is genuine and human.

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 on: Today at 12:37:48 PM 
Started by Donald Trump’s Toupée - Last post by DS0816
I don’t think so.

It would be chaotic, disorganized, rushed, and an overall folly.

No one likes Harris, so she is doomed if she picked up the mantle.

Anyone else would need time for the electorate to give proper name recognition. While Newsom is a Mitt Romney like snake, but even worse, he’s not universally known. Name recognition takes an electoral cycle to cement. (Why Romney was smart to campaign in 2008, and then ready for 2012 as an example).

It’s Biden or bust at this point.

On a topic of Joe Biden’s job approval, I wrote about this here — https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=583614.msg9399289#msg9399289 — with the following:

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Not only is Biden not positioned for re-election … the Democratic Party is not positioned to win a hold for U.S. President. And the Democratic Party—whether Biden or anyone else [is their general-election nominee]—is also not positioned to win the 2024 U.S. Popular Vote for U.S. President.

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 on: Today at 12:37:46 PM 
Started by Woody - Last post by Woody
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 on: Today at 12:37:27 PM 
Started by Virginiá - Last post by Hindsight was 2020

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 on: Today at 12:34:08 PM 
Started by Hnv1 - Last post by pppolitics


That’s horrible, no ifs, ands, or buts.  It’s objectively not genocide, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a horrific act.  And you can’t even argue that Israel was targeting such high-ranking Hamas officials that it was worth the risk or whatever.  These were not top guys.  This strike never should’ve been launched.

According to the Palestine Red Crescent Society, the area hit is a designated "safe zone".

This isn't the first time that Israel has hit a "safe zone" either.

Time to reconsider the "objectively not genocide" part.

That’s not genocide.  A war crime?  Quite possibly, but not genocide.  Words have meaning.

Maybe you think that I looked up "genocide" in a dictionary and using the term willy-nilly.

That is not the case.

When I talking about "genocide", I am using the term as defined in the Genocide Convention.

And I am going by the definition established by the Genocide Convention as well.  The difference is you’re using it in a wildly inaccurate manner.  Whether you’re doing so deliberately or due to genuine ignorance is not for me to say, but by that definition, Israel’s actions are clearly not genocide.  It isn’t even a close call.

We both know that the ICC bring charges against individuals not against countries, but it's not much of a stretch that the charges against Netanyahu and Gallant also applies to Israel.

Let's look at these charges.

  • Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;
  • Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
  • Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
  • Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
  • Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
  • Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
  • Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).

Do they not sound a whole lot like genocide to you?

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In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: 

(a) Killing members of the group; 

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; 

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part; 

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; 

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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 on: Today at 12:30:34 PM 
Started by MyLifeIsYours - Last post by Old Man Willow

Hinkle has connections with the Larouche movement. Remember, five years back, he was a normal Bernie Sanders supporter before pivoting to sh**tlib. Then when that plan failed he switched to becoming an apologist for Assad.  Now he wants to trick leftists into joining his fascist movement.

Hinkle is a fed.

Or just a mental case.

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 on: Today at 12:30:13 PM 
Started by GP270watch - Last post by HisGrace
Trump's issue is not cognitive decline, it's sociopathy.

Trump was a lot "sharper" (if you want to call it that) in 15 and 16 than he is now.

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 on: Today at 12:30:06 PM 
Started by SnowLabrador - Last post by DS0816
Re: Democrats need to get their s**t together.

Actually, the Democrats need to lose.

(Their problem isn’t a failure to “get their s**t together”. Their problem is that they assume their “s**t” doesn’t stink. It does. And they do.)


Yeah we all should listen to you whom Pred  Whitmer to lose, lol

I am a person, who is also a forum member, who responded to this topic.

Your comment has nothing to do with this topic.

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 on: Today at 12:28:17 PM 
Started by Hnv1 - Last post by Horus

No message or sympathy for the 35,800 Palestinians who have been slaughter by the Israelies. They all want to talk about the hostages but never give a damn about all the poor children and mothers where their homes have been demolished and are witnessing a famine crisis due to the actions of the Israeli government blocking the aid.

More reasons to hate the fraud Dr Phil and that sociopath Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Give us our people back. Again, there is no force on Earth that will stop this war without our people being returned. Do with that what you will.

Your people? You're an American.
He might be jewish though.

Irrelevant. So am I but Israelis aren't my people any more than Lebanese or Syrians are my people. Act like a damn American.

The fact that you don't feel any collective kinship with your fellow Jews in Israel is not my problem. Dogwhistle louder, you'll still never be enough for our enemies.

Why should I feel collective kinship with a people just because I happen to share more recent ancestry with some of them? That is illogical, ethnocentric and fascist. Blood isn't thicker than water. I have only ever lived in one country, America. Those are my people.

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 on: Today at 12:27:57 PM 
Started by wbrocks67 - Last post by Old Man Willow
The fact that Trump continues to be pro-Israel despite his vendetta against Netanyahu is a mark in his favor. Very OOC. Shows he has at least some principles, however miniscule.

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