NY: Trump on Trial!

[Damocles]

Particularly dumb because Arizona of all states is notorious for having a (relatively) Republican-favorable electorate in midterms and a (relatively) Democratic-favorable electorate in presidential years.

I wish they served Arizona iced tea during Arizona elections.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

"I'm not a Trump supporter but if they indict him I'll have no choice but to vote for him for the third time"

[BG-NY]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be.  

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

"I'm not a Trump supporter but if they indict him I'll have no choice but to vote for him for the third time"

TBF my position is just that demographic changes spurred from migration from the midwest to the south and polarization give Trump a shot (as does the GOP engaging in voter suppression and/or embracing VBM). I don’t anticipate vote switchers en masse.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be.  

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

"I'm not a Trump supporter but if they indict him I'll have no choice but to vote for him for the third time"

TBF my position is just that demographic changes spurred from migration from the midwest to the south and polarization give Trump a shot (as does the GOP engaging in voter suppression and/or embracing VBM). I don’t anticipate vote switchers en masse.

I mean...the thing is that there actually are people who think the way theflyingmongoose is accusing them of thinking. Most Americans are, despite everything, at least a bit more self-aware than that, but there is a nonzero segment of the electorate comprising people who will swear up and down they don't like Trump unless the immediate context is voting on whether or not he should be President.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be.  

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

"I'm not a Trump supporter but if they indict him I'll have no choice but to vote for him for the third time"

TBF my position is just that demographic changes spurred from migration from the midwest to the south and polarization give Trump a shot (as does the GOP engaging in voter suppression and/or embracing VBM). I don’t anticipate vote switchers en masse.

I mean...the thing is that there actually are people who think the way theflyingmongoose is accusing them of thinking. Most Americans are, despite everything, at least a bit more self-aware than that, but there is a nonzero segment of the electorate comprising people who will swear up and down they don't like Trump unless the immediate context is voting on whether or not he should be President.

For a lot of people, a vote for Trump has nothing to do with him personally. It's a vote for "me and my way of life is valid too, regardless of what those liberals claim".

[Yoda]

The number of people who still have a shiftable opinion of Trump or whose minds are set but might not turn out to vote is so small, I have a hard time seeing this have a huge political impact in the general. BUT, one group I really think this screws over is generic down-ballot R incumbents who will now have to answer to the Trump crazies about why they didn't "do something" to stop this and who probably won't get to see any sort of coattails even in a hypothetical 2024 Trump mega-landslide.

Not just that. Those same Republicans will also have to defend belonging to a party that is now publicly on the record as utterly opposed to rule of law.

There have yet been no charges released. None of those commenting know what Donald Trump is being indicted for. And yet, the GOP is clear that whatever the charges might be, they are opposed to them. Not because Mr. Trump is innocent - no, none of them are claiming that - but that the very idea of holding a powerful man to account is something they find unconscionable.

From Trump's supposed opponents like Pence and DeSantis, to party leadership like Speaker McCarthy and RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, to the nuttiest of cultists they all agree on one thing: it is unacceptable to hold a Republican accountable under the law.

Republicans are the party of tyranny. No one should ever pretend otherwise again.

Very well said. "It's an outrage!" is what I've been hearing over and over from republicans. Why is it an outrage? Bogus charges? We don't know what they are yet. Lack of evidence? We haven't seen the evidence. It's an "outrage" to republicans b/c their cult leader looks likely to suffer legal consequences for breaking the law. The law is something the poors are held to, not rich, white, entitled male republicans!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden is not at 38/61 or 40/58 Approvals in an indictment era of Trump if he leads Trump 48/46 in a Prez matchup they need to stop polling Approval lies Gallup is just bogus

[Sir Mohamed]

I was just coming back from a customer meeting and jumped into the car when the news broke... I didn't expect that to happen, but good it finally did.

Yup, this will certainly help him to win the nomination. However, it's not because of some Dem plot, but because an attorney was just doing his job and because a grand jury found the evidence enough to recommend indictment. Nobody is a above the law. If he's really innocent as he claims, then just make your case before the court.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This isn't the only indictment he has J6 and GA indictments Blue avatars keep saying it doesn't matter we ARENT POLL ROBOTS WE VOTE THE POLLS WERE WRONG LAST TIME HAD RS WINNING 53 SEN AND 240 RH COOK AND SABATO HAD US LOSING 20 SEATS WHEN ARE RS GONNA LEARN THIS PALIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BEAT PELTOLA

[Landslide Lyndon]

Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.[/i]
- @GovRonDeSantis on Twitter; 3/30/2023

DeSantis has made Florida a sanctuary state.
Disgusting.

[Badger]

Democrats want to run against Trump . Republican voters : You need to vote for DeSantis to ensure democrats don’t get what they want from this witch-hunt

Why is this a "witch hunt"?

Because beep boops mummy and daddy and many members of his family and friends of family voted for trump. And they couldn't have voted for someone who committed a crime!

[Badger]

Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.[/i]
- @GovRonDeSantis on Twitter; 3/30/2023

DeSantis has made Florida a sanctuary state.
Disgusting.

Just waiting for our resident Man Child DeSantis Pawn to come in with some sniveling excuse why this is acceptable.

[Middle-aged Europe]

One could say Trump has now the Republican nomination.... locked up.

[°Leprechaun]

One could say Trump has now the Republican nomination.... locked up.

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One could say Trump has now the Republican nomination.... locked up.

That would be an.... indictment of the voters.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Tweet of the century.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1641623167465562112

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

That's why I don't look at Approvals they are wrong we aren't robots as I said earlier and go only by polls, some RS like Matty whom was Vaccinated Bear still believe Biden is still at 41 Approvals  Gallup has been off 40)58 like the 38/62 how can Biden be that low if he is leading Trump 49/45 in a QU poll and he won 50/45 last time

That's why I can't wait to vote so we can finally get our Filibuster proof Trifecta, with Sen Gallego not Sinema whom McConnell used to block Filibuster reform

[fluffypanther19]

Tweet of the century.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1641623167465562112

very true. i have been a solid black dem voter but this indictment was too much. now on the trump 2024 maga train.

[Redban]

Re: 34 counts

I hear it's because he paid Cohen in installments, not all at once. Each check = 1 count?

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1641648144285855746

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It does help him, Trump in the primary defeat DeSantis but there obviously are Ds and indies in a GE RS won't be able to use Hunter Laptop story against Biden with Trump or DeSantis that's why it's important but we know Hunter not Biden is corrupted anyways and didn't pay his taxes

Just think back during Docugate story before Stormy Daniels the media was focused all on Hunter Laptop now only Ron Johnson and Fox news are obsessed because of the Stormy Daniels lawsuit and there are more indictments


That's why it's a 303 map with wave insurance we won KS G 22 and AK and could win MS and KY Gov and NC Gov and Brown, Kunce and Tester and Manchin can all win it's not just 303 Map

[Redban]

So how do you reconcile this indictment with the John Edwards' case from years ago? I'm guessing most of you think it's (D)ifferent for a particular reason?

Edwards was charged by the DOJ for campaign-finance charges. He allegedly paid about $1 million to support his pregnant mistress. Prosecutors tried to argue that the money, which never passed through Edwards' campaign accounts, was a campaign donation because it was intended to prevent damage to his campaign (it is the same argument that Bragg is allegedly using against Trump). Edwards and his attorneys countered by arguing that the payments were personal expenses and that Edwards made the payments to keep his wife out of the loop, not to help his presidential bid.

In the end, the jury acquitted Edwards. At the time, many Democrats and legal experts criticized the DOJ's decision to seek charges against Edwards, arguing that considering personal expenses to be campaign donations is too much of a stretch.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1641648144285855746

A) are people who bet money on elections somehow smarter than the rest of us?

B) insofar as this increases his percentage chances of becoming president, how much of that is just massively boosting him in the primary?

[DavidB.]

Real:
https://twitter.com/KvotheTheArcane/status/1641792568189960199

[Antonio the Sixth]

well this is gonna be Something