Georgia senate seats runoff(s) megathread

[KaiserDave]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Rs are hurting themselves due to fact Trump is contesting the GA Elections and Covid relief is still floundering around and McConnell went home again. Rs don't take a hint what happened after McConnell adjourned last time.

Both parties have played politics with the people's money 2.2T stimulus

[Frenchrepublican]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

[KaiserDave]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

Perfectly responsible comparison.

Throwing money at a race doesn't mean you win. How many times will super funded candidates have to lose for people to understand this.

We had the ultimate experiment with Michael Bloomberg, who went down in flames despite spending an ungodly mountain of cash.

Edit: It's not like Republicans weren't attacking Manchin on guns lol

Yes, WV and MT were races Republicans neglected. But it's more than just throwing cash, Rosendale and Morrisey were not the best candidates and had weak messages.

[Frenchrepublican]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

Perfectly responsible comparison.

Throwing money at a race doesn't mean you win. How many times will super funded candidates have to lose for people to understand this.

We had the ultimate experiment with Michael Bloomberg, who went down in flames despite spending an ungodly mountain of cash.

Throwing money in a state / district which is fundamentally hostile to you is not going to help you if the message is so so, sure, now throwing money in a state / district which structurally leans your way will at least help you to destroy the image of your opponent and to nationalize the race, and when a race which takes place on favourable ground is nationalised you will win it (see Peterson fall in Minnesota).

[KaiserDave]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

Perfectly responsible comparison.

Throwing money at a race doesn't mean you win. How many times will super funded candidates have to lose for people to understand this.

We had the ultimate experiment with Michael Bloomberg, who went down in flames despite spending an ungodly mountain of cash.

Throwing money in a state / district which is fundamentally hostile to you is not going to help you if the message is so so, sure, now throwing money in a state / district which structurally leans your way will at least help you to destroy the image of your opponent and to nationalize the race, and when a race which takes place on favourable ground is nationalised you will win it (see Peterson fall in Minnesota).

And? Republicans spent in West Virginia and Montana. Trump visited Montana more than any other state. It's true that the NRSC wasted time in Nevada, Wisconsin, and Arizona that year but just spending more isn't going to win.

Sarah Gideon had a mountain of dollars in a state Biden won by 10. It did her no good because her message was bad.

[Frenchrepublican]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

Perfectly responsible comparison.

Throwing money at a race doesn't mean you win. How many times will super funded candidates have to lose for people to understand this.

We had the ultimate experiment with Michael Bloomberg, who went down in flames despite spending an ungodly mountain of cash.

Throwing money in a state / district which is fundamentally hostile to you is not going to help you if the message is so so, sure, now throwing money in a state / district which structurally leans your way will at least help you to destroy the image of your opponent and to nationalize the race, and when a race which takes place on favourable ground is nationalised you will win it (see Peterson fall in Minnesota).

And? Republicans spent in West Virginia and Montana. Trump visited Montana more than any other state. It's true that the NRSC wasted time in Nevada, Wisconsin, and Arizona that year but just spending more isn't going to win.

Sarah Gideon had a mountain of dollars in a state Biden won by 10. It did her no good because her message was bad.

Manchin outspent Morrissey by 2 to 1 ratio, in MT it was even worse.

[KaiserDave]

Just imagine if a fraction of this money had been spent against Manchin and Tester in 2018.

Shouting a bad message louder doesn't mean you win.

Paging Senator-elect Gideon and Harrison

Absurd comparison.

Money will help you when you are running on favourable ground as it can help you drive down the image of your opponent (if you spend $ 45M of negative ads against Manchin in which you attack him on his anti guns positions you can bet it will damage him), now sure if you are running in a hostile state money will have a more limited effect.

Perfectly responsible comparison.

Throwing money at a race doesn't mean you win. How many times will super funded candidates have to lose for people to understand this.

We had the ultimate experiment with Michael Bloomberg, who went down in flames despite spending an ungodly mountain of cash.

Throwing money in a state / district which is fundamentally hostile to you is not going to help you if the message is so so, sure, now throwing money in a state / district which structurally leans your way will at least help you to destroy the image of your opponent and to nationalize the race, and when a race which takes place on favourable ground is nationalised you will win it (see Peterson fall in Minnesota).

And? Republicans spent in West Virginia and Montana. Trump visited Montana more than any other state. It's true that the NRSC wasted time in Nevada, Wisconsin, and Arizona that year but just spending more isn't going to win.

Sarah Gideon had a mountain of dollars in a state Biden won by 10. It did her no good because her message was bad.

Manchin outspent Morrissey by 2 to 1 ratio, in MT it was even worse.

Okay? Matching spending enough wasn't going to save Morrisey and Rosendale.

They had flawed messages and weak campaigns.

[KaiserDave]

In a midterm election cycle, #candidatequality matters more.

Rosendale and especially Morrisey were weak.

Tim Fox and Evan Jenkins would certainly have done better.

[Bootes Void]

In a midterm election cycle, #candidatequality matters more.

Rosendale and especially Morrisey were weak.

Tim Fox and Evan Jenkins would certainly have done better.

Evan Jenkins would probably beaten Manchin but I'm not sure if Fox would have done so. Nobody would have beaten Tester unless if Zinke didn't leave for secretary of interior and ran against him in 2018

[Pollster]

Lol, very sad I missed another round of the spending vs. message back and forth.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/mbaram/status/1329896177073074182?s=20

[KaiserDave]

In a midterm election cycle, #candidatequality matters more.

Rosendale and especially Morrisey were weak.

Tim Fox and Evan Jenkins would certainly have done better.

Evan Jenkins would probably beaten Manchin but I'm not sure if Fox would have done so. Nobody would have beaten Tester unless if Zinke didn't leave for secretary of interior and ran against him in 2018

I agree. Fox vs Tester would have been quite close

[QAnonKelly]

https://twitter.com/SenhorRaposa/status/1329852788243886080

If she gets it from him and dies, don’t worry. It’ll only kill the horcrux he put in her on accident.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Cocaine Mitch.

[Bootes Void]

https://twitter.com/mbaram/status/1329896177073074182?s=20

Awesome encourage it. Fight against the system

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/mbaram/status/1329896177073074182?s=20

Pweeeeassseee

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Seems like Loeffler didn't disclose her private jet on her ethics paperwork. You know, normal people things.

What's next, a car elevator?

[7,052,770]

How in the world can someone who voted for Joe Biden vote for someone who uses the term "Deep State" unironically? And why does Qelly Loeffler think that going full-on batsh**t QAnon is going to help her win in a suddenly Blue State?

I was sure she'd drop all that nonsense and run back to the center, since the crazies are going to turn out and vote for her over Warnock anyway, but I guess she just is that much of a lunatic.

[Bootes Void]

How in the world can someone who voted for Joe Biden vote for someone who uses the term "Deep State" unironically? And why does Qelly Loeffler think that going full-on batsh**t QAnon is going to help her win in a suddenly Blue State?

I was sure she'd drop all that nonsense and run back to the center, since the crazies are going to turn out and vote for her over Warnock anyway, but I guess she just is that much of a lunatic.

A Biden/Loeffler voter doesn't really exist. To win it would just be turnout and the composition of the electorate

Also the ironic part about complaining about the deep state is that Trump is hiring loyalists into key positions of the government to solely undermine Biden

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No one should underestimate Loeffler or Perdue, Loeffler is a commissioner from the WNBA, but Trump not conceding the election is making it hard for the Rs to hold these races

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1329994598706536449

KING OF THE SUBURBS DAVID PERDUE

[WD]

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1329994598706536449
KING OF THE SUBURBS DAVID PERDUE

Disgusting

[7,052,770]

^^ These are the few persuadable voters out there. Anyone who voted Biden has to be disgusted by Trump's actions and Perdue & Qelly's enabling of it.

Yes, this is a turnout election primarily, but W & O have to identify who these suburban Biden/GOP voters are and get them to reconsider.

[AGA]

Regular is Likely R; Special is Lean R. Biden only won Georgia because of Trump's collapse in the suburbs; these people are not giving Democrats a trifecta even though the filibuster is here to stay. Only hope for Democrats is if Republicans think the election will be rigged and don't show up.