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« Reply #275 on: November 19, 2020, 06:05:42 PM »

Aside from one dubious line, that sermon seems pretty cool
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« Reply #276 on: November 19, 2020, 06:14:22 PM »

I love how its okay for republicans to attack a democrats religion, but even mentioning Amy Barrett's faith was tantamount to being anti-catholic.
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« Reply #277 on: November 19, 2020, 07:39:58 PM »
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Literally back to back and not even more than 5 mins apart. useless spammers
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« Reply #278 on: November 19, 2020, 08:13:56 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez
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« Reply #279 on: November 19, 2020, 08:15:06 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.
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« Reply #280 on: November 19, 2020, 08:21:29 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.

Schumer's selection of Bullock in Montana backfired, and Democratic candidates Greenfield, Harrison, Hegar, Gross, and Gideon all fell far short of expectations as well. The only successful Democratic recruit thus far was Mark Kelly in Arizona (any Democrat with a pulse would have beaten Cory Gardner), and even he won by less then what polls had indicated. Democrats will need to greatly overhaul their campaign infrastructure moving forward.
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« Reply #281 on: November 19, 2020, 08:32:30 PM »

Moderates are definitely gonna to have Trump not conceding defeat to Biden on their minds heading to the polls in GA, it hurts, not help Rs chances in GA if Trump continue to resist. But, polls continue to say it's gonna be close
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« Reply #282 on: November 19, 2020, 08:35:00 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.

Schumer's selection of Bullock in Montana backfired, and Democratic candidates Greenfield, Harrison, Hegar, Gross, and Gideon all fell far short of expectations as well. The only successful Democratic recruit thus far was Mark Kelly in Arizona (any Democrat with a pulse would have beaten Cory Gardner), and even he won by less then what polls had indicated. Democrats will need to greatly overhaul their campaign infrastructure moving forward.

Not really in their control though? Bullock, Greenfield, and Harrison in particular were all great candidates for their particular states. There wasn't much they could do - the outcome was really out of their hands no matter what, looking at all that happened
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« Reply #283 on: November 19, 2020, 08:43:28 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:



McGrift is still grifting.
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« Reply #284 on: November 19, 2020, 08:52:08 PM »

Dozens of Georgia Veterans are calling for Warnock to drop out after decade old comments stating that "no one can serve God and the military surface.

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Dozens of veterans from Georgia are calling on Democratic Senate candidate Rev. Raphael Warnock to drop out of the state’s run-off race in January after his nearly a decade-old comment saying “nobody can serve God and the military” resurfaced.


Fox News obtained a list of more than four dozen Georgia veterans who are calling on Warnock to suspend his campaign.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-raphael-warnock-america-nobody-can-serve-god-military

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“America, nobody can serve God and the military,” Warnock said at the time. “You can’t serve God and money. You cannot serve God and mammon at the same time. America, choose ye this day who you will serve. Choose ye this day.”

“Politicians try to keep their power. Political parties lie in order to keep their power. And church folk, yeah, you too, maneuver…in order to keep your power And Jesus says, that’s not power. That’s paranoia.”

“Because when you’ve got real power, you’re not worrying about your place in the world. You know how to be exalted and you know how to be abased. You know how to sit high and you know how to sit low and you’re not worried about your place in the world because you’re connected with something that’s greater than you and you’re concerned about something that’s greater than yourself.”

“When you have real power, Jesus says that you’ll lay it down so that somebody else can have some power. Real power will lay itself down on behalf of the powerless,” Warnock added.

Wow, 50 veterans? Unbelievable, worthy of headline news.
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« Reply #285 on: November 19, 2020, 08:54:07 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.

Schumer's selection of Bullock in Montana backfired, and Democratic candidates Greenfield, Harrison, Hegar, Gross, and Gideon all fell far short of expectations as well. The only successful Democratic recruit thus far was Mark Kelly in Arizona (any Democrat with a pulse would have beaten Cory Gardner), and even he won by less then what polls had indicated. Democrats will need to greatly overhaul their campaign infrastructure moving forward.

Not really in their control though? Bullock, Greenfield, and Harrison in particular were all great candidates for their particular states. There wasn't much they could do - the outcome was really out of their hands no matter what, looking at all that happened
Your right about Greenfield and Harrison but Bullock shouldn't have run for president he should have jumped into the senate race right away
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« Reply #286 on: November 19, 2020, 08:56:26 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.

Schumer's selection of Bullock in Montana backfired, and Democratic candidates Greenfield, Harrison, Hegar, Gross, and Gideon all fell far short of expectations as well. The only successful Democratic recruit thus far was Mark Kelly in Arizona (any Democrat with a pulse would have beaten Cory Gardner), and even he won by less then what polls had indicated. Democrats will need to greatly overhaul their campaign infrastructure moving forward.

Not really in their control though? Bullock, Greenfield, and Harrison in particular were all great candidates for their particular states. There wasn't much they could do - the outcome was really out of their hands no matter what, looking at all that happened

I'm not going to deny that they were good candidates, but Harrison's race against Graham-and to a great extent, Bullock's race in Montana-became nationalized, and they were unable to disassociate themselves.
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« Reply #287 on: November 19, 2020, 09:54:50 PM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Especially someone who was possibly the single biggest mess of a candidate this whole election cycle. Not that this election was winnable for Democrats, but Schumer deserves to lose his leadership position for hand-picking her (and the disaster that Cal Cunningham turned out to be, if we're talking about an actually winnable seat). Some people are saying that Democrats lost a bunch of downballot races in Kentucky because of her reverse coattails.

Schumer's selection of Bullock in Montana backfired, and Democratic candidates Greenfield, Harrison, Hegar, Gross, and Gideon all fell far short of expectations as well. The only successful Democratic recruit thus far was Mark Kelly in Arizona (any Democrat with a pulse would have beaten Cory Gardner), and even he won by less then what polls had indicated. Democrats will need to greatly overhaul their campaign infrastructure moving forward.

Not really in their control though? Bullock, Greenfield, and Harrison in particular were all great candidates for their particular states. There wasn't much they could do - the outcome was really out of their hands no matter what, looking at all that happened

I'm not going to deny that they were good candidates, but Harrison's race against Graham-and to a great extent, Bullock's race in Montana-became nationalized, and they were unable to disassociate themselves.

The greater malpractice is that they didn't TRY to disassociate themselves from the national brand nearly as much as they should have. Bullock indicated he was open to expanding the size of the Supreme Court during a debate with Daines.

They must have been seeing some wild internal polling...
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« Reply #288 on: November 19, 2020, 10:47:08 PM »

Ah, I have nightmares over these races still even though I've accepted the fact we're probably losing them, but at the same time I don't feel like my reasoning is justified and that my brain tells me these are tossups! Ah! Mental gymnastics!
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« Reply #289 on: November 19, 2020, 10:59:41 PM »

Raphael Warnock signed letter likening West Bank to apartheid South Africa


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« Reply #290 on: November 19, 2020, 11:01:48 PM »


This is two weeks old and also awesome.
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« Reply #291 on: November 19, 2020, 11:20:31 PM »

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/16/facebook-posts/parler-post-attributed-loeffler-about-black-georgi/
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« Reply #292 on: November 19, 2020, 11:28:09 PM »

Yeah Democrats are going to lose.
They aren’t even punching back at these Warnock attacks enough.
Schumer should lose his job.
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« Reply #293 on: November 20, 2020, 06:13:07 AM »

Yeah Democrats are going to lose.
They aren’t even punching back at these Warnock attacks enough.
Schumer should lose his job.

The attacks are frivolous and don't deserve attention. I don't see Loeffler punching back at any of the attacks on her either. No point. There's going to be attacks on both sides. Why waste time for either side to talk about them?
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« Reply #294 on: November 20, 2020, 07:03:25 AM »

One reason I think Republicans should win is the polling is looking pretty good and Perdue outperformed his polls, I went back and looked at the polls on 538 for the senate forecast for the Georgia race and this is what they were:

Emerson: Ossoff +1
Data for Progress: Ossoff +5
Monmouth: Ossoff +2
PPP: Ossoff +1
YouGov: Perdue +1
NYT/Sienna: Tie
Landmark Communications: Perdue +2


Perdue won by 1.7% so he did better then the polls on average indicated, in the rcp average Ossoff was up 0.7%, so the rcp average had a 2.4% bias in favour of the dems.
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« Reply #295 on: November 20, 2020, 07:25:30 AM »

One reason I think Republicans should win is the polling is looking pretty good and Perdue outperformed his polls, I went back and looked at the polls on 538 for the senate forecast for the Georgia race and this is what they were:

Emerson: Ossoff +1
Data for Progress: Ossoff +5
Monmouth: Ossoff +2
PPP: Ossoff +1
YouGov: Perdue +1
NYT/Sienna: Tie
Landmark Communications: Perdue +2


Perdue won by 1.7% so he did better then the polls on average indicated, in the rcp average Ossoff was up 0.7%, so the rcp average had a 2.4% bias in favour of the dems.


The polls were off a bit bc of a GOP turnout surge. The same can't be expected this time around without Trump on the ballot.
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« Reply #296 on: November 20, 2020, 07:34:11 AM »

Speaking of McGrath, she's finally trying to summon resistance boomers to important Senate races:


Oh no this might be the kiss of death. Tell national Dems to stay away from Ga and let them run their own campaign like jeez

Not that this election was winnable for Democrats

Wrong.
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« Reply #297 on: November 20, 2020, 07:36:17 AM »

Dozens of Georgia Veterans are calling for Warnock to drop out after decade old comments stating that "no one can serve God and the military surface.

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Dozens of veterans from Georgia are calling on Democratic Senate candidate Rev. Raphael Warnock to drop out of the state’s run-off race in January after his nearly a decade-old comment saying “nobody can serve God and the military” resurfaced.


Fox News obtained a list of more than four dozen Georgia veterans who are calling on Warnock to suspend his campaign.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-raphael-warnock-america-nobody-can-serve-god-military

The relevant quote:

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“America, nobody can serve God and the military,” Warnock said at the time. “You can’t serve God and money. You cannot serve God and mammon at the same time. America, choose ye this day who you will serve. Choose ye this day.”

“Politicians try to keep their power. Political parties lie in order to keep their power. And church folk, yeah, you too, maneuver…in order to keep your power And Jesus says, that’s not power. That’s paranoia.”

“Because when you’ve got real power, you’re not worrying about your place in the world. You know how to be exalted and you know how to be abased. You know how to sit high and you know how to sit low and you’re not worried about your place in the world because you’re connected with something that’s greater than you and you’re concerned about something that’s greater than yourself.”

“When you have real power, Jesus says that you’ll lay it down so that somebody else can have some power. Real power will lay itself down on behalf of the powerless,” Warnock added.

Damn, Warnock is f**king awesome
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« Reply #298 on: November 20, 2020, 07:49:42 AM »

One reason I think Republicans should win is the polling is looking pretty good and Perdue outperformed his polls, I went back and looked at the polls on 538 for the senate forecast for the Georgia race and this is what they were:

Emerson: Ossoff +1
Data for Progress: Ossoff +5
Monmouth: Ossoff +2
PPP: Ossoff +1
YouGov: Perdue +1
NYT/Sienna: Tie
Landmark Communications: Perdue +2


Perdue won by 1.7% so he did better then the polls on average indicated, in the rcp average Ossoff was up 0.7%, so the rcp average had a 2.4% bias in favour of the dems.


The polls were off a bit bc of a GOP turnout surge. The same can't be expected this time around without Trump on the ballot.

How are you still so confident after being wrong?
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« Reply #299 on: November 20, 2020, 07:53:51 AM »

One reason I think Republicans should win is the polling is looking pretty good and Perdue outperformed his polls, I went back and looked at the polls on 538 for the senate forecast for the Georgia race and this is what they were:

Emerson: Ossoff +1
Data for Progress: Ossoff +5
Monmouth: Ossoff +2
PPP: Ossoff +1
YouGov: Perdue +1
NYT/Sienna: Tie
Landmark Communications: Perdue +2


Perdue won by 1.7% so he did better then the polls on average indicated, in the rcp average Ossoff was up 0.7%, so the rcp average had a 2.4% bias in favour of the dems.


The polls were off a bit bc of a GOP turnout surge. The same can't be expected this time around without Trump on the ballot.

How are you still so confident after being wrong?

Being wrong about what exactly? We're talking about Georgia, where the presidential polls were very accurate and the Senate polls only slightly off (the special moreso b/c they didn't include Deborah Jackson apparently)
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