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 on: Today at 09:26:54 PM 
Started by Donald Trump’s Toupée - Last post by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
Due to fact we have a moderate SCOTUS, ACB AND KAVANAUGH ARENT LIKELY ON APPEAL TO RELEASE TRUMP, BUT LIKELY TO JNOCK DOWN SOME OF HIS TIME IN PRISON OR AN ANKLE BRACLET

If Trump gets the Prez again he is likely to prosecutor Biden

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 on: Today at 09:26:53 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
From a Facebook friend:

Here's a theology lesson: For Christians,the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament presents (among other things) guidelines on how YOU should live... not on how you should control how OTHERS live. Any ‘church” that teaches otherwise is one you should run from.

     Did he say that women should be mandated to have children and be banned from working outside the home? And if not then how is him communicating Christian teachings at a religious institution all that different than Jesus doing the same? I get the sense that this person would have the exact same reaction to hearing Jesus speak, which makes this opinion entirely worthless to Christians.

Yeah, he was just communicating Christian teachings the same way all these kooks were just communicating Christian teachings when they campaigned for abortion to be banned or for depriving gays from their rights.

     Suppose he told them to give away all of their possessions  to clothe the naked and feed the poor. Would you still be sharing outrage over him trying to control how others live?

If he had told only women to do so, yes. And you see, the difference is that Christ taught us explicitly to do exactly what you quote. But he did not state that women should basically be kept in the kitchen. That's basically tread cath - and so sorry to bring it close to home but trade Greek Orthodox - non scriptural belief as well. Crane has you appropriately pegged on this point, so kindly quit trying to squirm out of it with false equivalencies between Sermon on the Mount type of teachings and "kinder gentler" get your ass back in the kitchen neanderthalism.

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 on: Today at 09:24:21 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
From a Facebook friend:

Here's a theology lesson: For Christians,the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament presents (among other things) guidelines on how YOU should live... not on how you should control how OTHERS live. Any ‘church” that teaches otherwise is one you should run from.

     Did he say that women should be mandated to have children and be banned from working outside the home? And if not then how is him communicating Christian teachings at a religious institution all that different than Jesus doing the same? I get the sense that this person would have the exact same reaction to hearing Jesus speak, which makes this opinion entirely worthless to Christians.

He called women working a "diabolical lie." I get why you're defending that here given your own awful previous comments on how you view the role of women in society.
I can tell you it is very un-Christlike, which is common amongst especially zealous religious converts who are attracted to an ideology rather than a faith.

     I read it as him calling women focusing on careers over family a diabolical lie. And as I said above, his chief error was not extending that to men too. He did speak about the importance of men in the household, but mostly in the context of not being absentee fathers. A father should as a matter of course put his family before his career and not waste his life being a slave for corporate masters who don't care about him.

That. Was. NOT. Accidental. Or. Incidental.

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 on: Today at 09:23:16 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
He says being a mom is more important than having a career or education, but being a father isn't? These guys never seem to value fatherhood much.

     And I will say, this is a criticism that I can get behind; raising children is far more valuable than slaving away for a soulless corporation that doesn't care about you or respect you. Food needs to be put on the table, but at the end of the day people need to understand how much family actually matters.

Cool. So you'll be quitting your job tomorrow so that your life can hyphen checks notes - actually start being a homemaker, father, and husband?

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 on: Today at 09:22:37 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
Bizarre that the most obviously true part of his speech - “Being a mother and homemaker is important and rewarding, and you shouldn’t let your career get in the way of that if it’s what you really want” - is the most controversial.

Because that isn't the point he was making.

You mean that’s not the point that you read in?

From a Facebook friend:

Here's a theology lesson: For Christians,the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament presents (among other things) guidelines on how YOU should live... not on how you should control how OTHERS live. Any ‘church” that teaches otherwise is one you should run from.

If the New Testament gives guidelines on how you should live, those same guidelines can be applied to others. Your Facebook friend posted gibberish.

Yeah incel garbage about how women in the workforce is a "diabolical lie" should definitely be read charitably... and LOL at your response to Lyndon. You have no license to force your crap beliefs on other people.

I’m not forcing my beliefs on anyone, nor is Mr. Butker. This speech by a conservative Catholic at a conservative Catholic university should have never been widely publicized. It’s your media that’s forcing his beliefs on you!

Bizarre that the most obviously true part of his speech - “Being a mother and homemaker is important and rewarding, and you shouldn’t let your career get in the way of that if it’s what you really want” - is the most controversial. I’d think that the parts where he explicitly attacks political and church leaders would get more attention.

Why did he only reference women ? Why not take to ask fathers and males for their roles in parenting ? Cathoilc Teaching clearly emphasizes the role of both men and women, both the husband and the wife in creating a happy stable environment for their children. To get more theological, they are both pursuing holiness.

He addresses men after he addresses women. You can find the full text of his speech here: https://www.ncregister.com/news/harrison-butker-speech-at-benedictine?amp

Kindly don't falsely portray Butters remarks as somehow merely being representative of anything resembling "conservative" or "Catholic" views. Particularly those of the college at which he delivered his address. Here is the colleges response to his half-assed remarks which represent neither.

https://hayspost.com/posts/0a29a41f-bcc0-42e1-8d2d-2b5426aaa991

Dare I say this is the most kind, even loving way of charitably saying " Harrison butker is a chode".

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 on: Today at 09:18:26 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
Bizarre that the most obviously true part of his speech - “Being a mother and homemaker is important and rewarding, and you shouldn’t let your career get in the way of that if it’s what you really want” - is the most controversial.

Because that isn't the point he was making.

You mean that’s not the point that you read in?

From a Facebook friend:

Here's a theology lesson: For Christians,the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament presents (among other things) guidelines on how YOU should live... not on how you should control how OTHERS live. Any ‘church” that teaches otherwise is one you should run from.

If the New Testament gives guidelines on how you should live, those same guidelines can be applied to others. Your Facebook friend posted gibberish.

Yeah incel garbage about how women in the workforce is a "diabolical lie" should definitely be read charitably... and LOL at your response to Lyndon. You have no license to force your crap beliefs on other people.

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 on: Today at 09:18:07 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
Bizarre that the most obviously true part of his speech - “Being a mother and homemaker is important and rewarding, and you shouldn’t let your career get in the way of that if it’s what you really want” - is the most controversial.

Because that isn't the point he was making.

You mean that’s not the point that you read in?

From a Facebook friend:

Here's a theology lesson: For Christians,the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament presents (among other things) guidelines on how YOU should live... not on how you should control how OTHERS live. Any ‘church” that teaches otherwise is one you should run from.

If the New Testament gives guidelines on how you should live, those same guidelines can be applied to others. Your Facebook friend posted gibberish.

Talk more when you are ready to give up your career and dreams so that your- checks notes - life can start by being a homemaker, father, and husband. After all, according to Harrison butker you've been fed the greatest lies in the world by saying that you can achieve more satisfaction in life outside of those roles.

I mean, are we waiting for him to retire to take up those roles tomorrow? Or is he just selling some double standard BS dressed up as Christian piety?

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 on: Today at 09:14:33 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Badger
Strangely satisfying to know there are men out there who somehow feel threatened by women like me, who will contribute far more to the world than they can ever dream Purple heart

"Get in the kitchen "Doctor" PQG and make me a sandwich, then get in the bedroom for some godly impregnation." (Harrison Butker, most likely.)

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 on: Today at 09:12:36 PM 
Started by jojoju1998 - Last post by Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
What else is he gonna say, I don't have kids but we all come from females and they deserve respect

We all come from the blck pharaohs and hbrw queens if you trace it back far enough. Also Lucy and King Tut.

If you look at a cave man he has blk features that proves Jews had blk in them, and Arabs and Asians because Samoans are part Asian and they look blk

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 on: Today at 09:10:47 PM 
Started by Clarence Boddicker - Last post by oldkyhome
If the GOP ever had a “progressive” President, it was assuredly Lincoln, but even that stretches the definition, I think.

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