UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[Cassius]

The butterfly effect from eating a bacon sandwich was really something wasn't it.

I know this is a joke, but I would contest the theory that this specific to David Cameron winning and then launching the Brexit debacle...this is a massive structural problem that starts with the way British elites are formed. If the next Labour government doesn't do electoral reform and massively gut the Oxbridge mafia that run Britain, its just going to be the same sociopaths with red rosets who see the Thick of It as a training manual rather than satire.

The Labour shadow cabinet is rammed full of Oxbridge graduates (it might actually be more Oxbridge than the current cabinet, which might even be majority non-Oxbridge). Anyway, I think the Oxbridge debate is a bit of a red herring, but that’s a topic for another day.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

https://twitter.com/sofeeeee/status/1580881543819456514

Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022)

OTL Liz Truss as the pure-potential-in-the-Thomistic-sense bad-at-everything worst version of herself? I can dig it.

[sting in the rafters]

https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1580926951602393088?s=21&t=lPnKM0kT8...

[Torrain]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

[brucejoel99]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

Over/under on Brady announcing today that 178 has been hit out-of-nowhere?

[Cassius]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

Zahawi seems to be going out to bat for her as well, once again showcasing his dreadful political judgement.

[Torrain]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

Zahawi seems to be going out to bat for her as well, once again showcasing his dreadful political judgement.

Maybe he hopes to be next week's chancellor? Incredible how adept he is at backing the wrong horse (*insert heating stables using parliamentary expenses joke here*).

[If my soul was made of stone]

The butterfly effect from eating a bacon sandwich was really something wasn't it.

with this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed

https://twitter.com/sofeeeee/status/1580881543819456514

Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022)

OTL Liz Truss as the pure-potential-in-the-Thomistic-sense bad-at-everything worst version of herself? I can dig it.

the pound collapsed because kwarteng sent it to the sausage finger dimension

[Pulaski]

This is just wonderful.

[brucejoel99]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

Over/under on Brady announcing today that 178 has been hit out-of-nowhere?

Nvm, they've answered my question:

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1580949356324102144

[Torrain]

Here we go...
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1580942174237077504

Over/under on Brady announcing today that 178 has been hit out-of-nowhere?

Nvm, they've answered my question:

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1580949356324102144

Man - that's impressively bad for the government.

[Sestak]

Motion to rename the megathread "UK General Discussion: The Hunt for Red October"?

Should be “The C*nt for Red October” if we’re doing this.

[Battista Minola 1616]

https://twitter.com/ed_miliband/status/1580931307185401856?s=46&t=YHSGup5mOz...

This is the greatest tweet in British politics ever since "Ed Balls" imo

[brucejoel99]

Motion to rename the megathread "UK General Discussion: The Hunt for Red October"?

Should be “The C*nt for Red October” if we’re doing this.

Ofc, you are 100% correct, excuse me while I commit honorable seppuku, please suggest the based names from here on out…

Conservatopia, you know what to do.

[kyc0705]

Over the last few turbulent years, there have been vanishingly few constants that we can still come together and enjoy. However, one of them quite consistently remains watching a British premiership collapse in real time.

[afleitch]

Motion to rename the megathread "UK General Discussion: The Hunt for Red October"?

Should be “The C*nt for Red October” if we’re doing this.

Ofc, you are 100% correct, excuse me while I commit honorable seppuku, please suggest the based names from here on out…

Conservatopia, you know what to do.

Hunt, for 'In the Red' October.

[Cassius]

I mean, this is UK General Discussion, not just the Conservative Party, so given the state that the country’s in (never mind the governing party) the only appropriate title can be:

We’re f*****.

[Torrain]

I mean, this is UK General Discussion, not just the Conservative Party, so given the state that the country’s in (never mind the governing party) the only appropriate title can be:

We’re f*****.

It's all a bit of a clusterTrussterf**k.

The long term economic and reputational damage is going to be a bitter pill to swallow.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Seems like Truss will need to dump Kwarteng to save herself, but if she does it's shredding her agenda anyway.

Well it looks like she's done it out of desperation, but I don't see what the point is in her premiership now.

[Tintrlvr]

The Times is reporting discussions of a Sunak/Mordaunt “joint ticket” to replace Truss.

The Tories have actually gained a seat in a council by-election tonight, in Waltham Abbey, Essex, but it was a very odd by-election where the only other candidate was the Green ex-councillor whose disqualification for non-attendance caused the by-election.

They also gained a seat in Leicester where Labour nominated a Hindu nationalist in a majority-Muslim ward. Still a weird contrast with the dreadfully terrible polling.

[brucejoel99]

lol:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1580960210201767936

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Various facts:

• UK economy is doomed over the next 24 months or so. Even if Truss had never proposed her moronic mini-budget, mortgage rates were going to reset at higher levels while energy costs spiked for households. Even without the mini-budget, UK government will be running massive budget deficits as interest rates spike.
• We live in an even more grim universe where there were a series of panics in financial markets, over pensions such that mortgage markets froze-up. I suspect that home-buying activity was nuked to close to zero overnight. It's hard to imagine how it could recover.
• No U-turn would work, nothing Truss or the Tories can do will work because the Tories are now decisively seen to be responsible for the dire state of the UK economy. This was not exactly true two months ago. No one was pleased with Tory economic management but it wasn't viewed as the sole reason for spiking inflation. Today, everyone assumes that poor outcomes are due to Tory mismanagement. This impression won't change, it's baked-in now.

If I was a Tory MP, I'd still try to take out Liz Truss as a "tit-for-tat" strategy. Sure, you'll be destroyed no matter what, but you might as well humiliate the psycho who guaranteed this fate.

[brucejoel99]

LOL:

https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/status/1580962633335058432

[Conservatopia]

Unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not into being humiliated or dominated.

That being said, everybody can feel free to mock me for supporting Liz for Leader.

[TheTide]

Check out the ratios those MPs tweeting support for Truss are getting.