January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

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Wow, Hutchinson is 25? Like, she was a senior aide to Meadows presumably straight out of college?

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It's times like this that I really wish we could get some Bronz analysis of the political implications for Democrats of a Trump-supporting former NYPD officer assaulting an MPD officer at the Capitol.

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I think journalists, particularly those on the left, would have a lot more success at figuring out what politicians really think and feel if they did this style of reporting more often - pretending you agree with everything the person says and generally trying to come across as an ally rather than the "hard-hitting journalist." You get some really interesting and illuminating exchanges, like this one where Chuck Grassley seems to have been open to going along with the fraudulent electors plot. At least that's what he tells someone who presents themselves as supporting overturning the election (but is actually an undercover journalist).

https://twitter.com/lawindsor/status/1565353787614699522

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Oh Bronz where art thou?

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1565432681449529345

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1565433943926751233

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Twitter is all ablab about why Trump is in DC, but this misses the real question: who flies from Florida to DC and lands at Dulles instead of Washington National?

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https://twitter.com/haleytalbotnbc/status/1571984877855318016

Cheney clearly knows more about the behind-the-scenes of the Congressional GOP between the election and January 6th than she wants to let on. I wish she'd name names and tell the constituents of whoever this what their Rep actually thinks. What has she got to lose?

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1584939167548461056

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Re: the DC jury question, you also need to factor in non-voters. Turnout was only 67% in 2020.

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The executive summary today is 100 pages and the full report on Wednesday will be 2000 pages.

The report is now going to be released tomorrow because it is taking so long to print. Also, it is expected to be only 900 pages.

Oh no. Did they get JK Rowling to write it?

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Any guesses as to who the member is?

Maybe JHB? Just noticing they don't give the member's gender, which might imply it's a woman.

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This seems to be the main points from the Executive Summary. Obviously not going to read the whole thing.

This Report supplies an immense volume of information and testimony assembled through the Select Committee’s investigation, including information obtained following litigation in Federal district and appellate courts, as well as in the U.S. Supreme Court. Based upon this assembled evidence, the Committee has reached a series of specific findings, including the following:

1. Beginning election night and continuing through January 6th and thereafter, Donald Trump purposely disseminated false allegations of fraud related to the 2020 Presidential election in order to aid his effort to overturn the election and for purposes of soliciting contributions. These false claims provoked his supporters to violence on January 6th.

2. Knowing that he and his supporters had lost dozens of election lawsuits, and despite his own senior advisors refuting his election fraud claims and urging him to concede his election loss, Donald Trump refused to accept the lawful result of the 2020 election. Rather than honor his constitutional obligation to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” President Trump instead plotted to overturn the election outcome.

3. Despite knowing that such an action would be illegal, and that no State had or would submit an altered electoral slate, Donald Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to count electoral votes during Congress’s joint session on January 6th.

4. Donald Trump sought to corrupt the U.S. Department of Justice by attempting to enlist Department officials to make purposely false statements and thereby aid his effort to overturn the Presidential election. After that effort failed, Donald Trump offered the position of Acting Attorney General to Jeff Clark knowing that Clark intended to disseminate false information aimed at overturning the election.

5. Without any evidentiary basis and contrary to State and Federal law, Donald Trump unlawfully pressured State officials and legislators to change the results of the election in their States.

6. Donald Trump oversaw an effort to obtain and transmit false electoral certificates to Congress and the National Archives.

7. Donald Trump pressured Members of Congress to object to valid slates of electors from several States.

8. Donald Trump purposely verified false information filed in Federal court.

9. Based on false allegations that the election was stolen, Donald Trump summoned tens of thousands of supporters to Washington for January 6th. Although these supporters were angry and some were armed, Donald Trump instructed them to march to the Capitol on January 6th to “take back” their country.

10. Knowing that a violent attack on the Capitol was underway and knowing that his words would incite further violence, Donald Trump purposely sent a social media message publicly condemning Vice President Pence at 2:24 p.m. on January 6th.

11. Knowing that violence was underway at the Capitol, and despite his duty to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed, Donald Trump refused repeated requests over a multiple hour period that he instruct his violent supporters to disperse and leave the Capitol, and instead watched the violent attack unfold on television. This failure to act perpetuated the violence at the Capitol and obstructed Congress’s proceeding to count electoral votes.

12. Each of these actions by Donald Trump was taken in support of a multi-part conspiracy to overturn the lawful results of the 2020 Presidential election.

13. The intelligence community and law enforcement agencies did successfully detect the planning for potential violence on January 6th, including planning specifically by the Proud Boys and Oath Keeper militia groups who ultimately led the attack on the Capitol. As January 6th approached, the intelligence specifically identified the potential for violence at the U.S. Capitol. This intelligence was shared within the executive branch, including with the Secret Service and the President’s National Security Council.

14. Intelligence gathered in advance of January 6th did not support a conclusion that Antifa or other left-wing groups would likely engage in a violent counter-demonstration, or attack Trump supporters on January 6th. Indeed, intelligence from January 5th indicated that some left-wing groups were instructing their members to “stay at home” and not attend on January 6th. Ultimately, none of these groups was involved to any material extent with the attack on the Capitol on January 6th.

15. Neither the intelligence community nor law enforcement obtained intelligence in advance of January 6th on the full extent of the ongoing planning by President Trump, John Eastman, Rudolph Giuliani and their associates to overturn the certified election results. Such agencies apparently did not (and potentially could not) anticipate the provocation President Trump would offer the crowd in his Ellipse speech, that President Trump would “spontaneously” instruct the crowd to march to the Capitol, that President Trump would exacerbate the violent riot by sending his 2:24 p.m. tweet condemning Vice President Pence, or the full scale of the violence and lawlessness that would ensue. Nor did law enforcement anticipate that President Trump would refuse to direct his supporters to leave the Capitol once violence began. No intelligence community advance analysis predicted exactly how President Trump would behave; no such analysis recognized the full scale and extent of the threat to the Capitol on January 6th.

16. Hundreds of Capitol and DC Metropolitan police officers performed their duties bravely on January 6th, and America owes those individuals immense gratitude for their courage in the defense of Congress and our Constitution. Without their bravery, January 6th would have been far worse. Although certain members of the Capitol Police leadership regarded their approach to January 6th as “all hands on deck,” the Capitol Police leadership did not have sufficient assets in place to address the violent and lawless crowd. Capitol Police leadership did not anticipate the scale of the violence that would ensue after President Trump instructed tens of thousands of his supporters in the Ellipse crowd to march to the Capitol, and then tweeted at 2:24 p.m. Although Chief Steven Sund raised the idea of National Guard support, the Capitol Police Board did not request Guard assistance prior to January 6th. The Metropolitan Police took an even more proactive approach to January 6th, and deployed roughly 800 officers, including responding to the emergency calls for help at the Capitol. Rioters still managed to break their line in certain locations, when the crowd surged forward in the immediate aftermath of Donald Trump’s 2:24 p.m. tweet. The Department of Justice readied a group of Federal agents at Quantico and in the District of Columbia, anticipating that January 6th could become violent, and then deployed those agents once it became clear that police at the Capitol were overwhelmed. Agents from the Department of Homeland Security were also deployed to assist.

17. President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard on January 6th or on any other day. Nor did he instruct any Federal law enforcement agency to assist. Because the authority to deploy the National Guard had been delegated to the Department of Defense, the Secretary of Defense could, and ultimately did deploy the Guard. Although evidence identifies a likely miscommunication between members of the civilian leadership in the Department of Defense impacting the timing of deployment, the Committee has found no evidence that the Department of Defense intentionally delayed deployment of the National Guard. The Select Committee recognizes that some at the Department had genuine concerns, counseling caution, that President Trump might give an illegal order to use the military in support of his efforts to overturn the election.

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Do these jurors actually write a report? Or is the report just a bunch of forms they filled out?

It's an actual report.

Imagine getting jury duty and then having to write an essay on top of that.

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https://twitter.com/TamarHallerman/status/1626252854179639297

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https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1648120683103125507

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https://twitter.com/FBIWFO/status/1664376480023957504

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Bob's Burgers voice actor arrested for his role in Capitol attack.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/07/jay-johnston-arrested-jimmy-pesto-jan-6

I mean it's perhaps, along with IASIP, the most overrated comedy in existence, but I didn't expect this.

I remember hearing he was there, and it's supremely funny that his character is exactly the kind of person who would get arrested on January 6th.

Bob's Burgers voice actor arrested for his role in Capitol attack.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/07/jay-johnston-arrested-jimmy-pesto-jan-6

I mean it's perhaps, along with IASIP, the most overrated comedy in existence, but I didn't expect this.

You are on a roll today with the terrible opinions.

Today's Special: Horus Radish Burger (Comes with Horse Radish on a roll)

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If I recall correctly his character has not appeared on Bob’s Burgers for a while.

I'm pretty sure they announced they had "parted ways" or some wording like that. (i.e. not officially fired, but almost definitely not coming back.)

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https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1670198215445037056

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Trump pressured Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey to overturn 2020 election

In a phone call in late 2020, President Donald Trump tried to pressure Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey (R) to overturn the state’s presidential election results, saying that if enough fraudulent votes could be found it would overcome Trump’s narrow loss in Arizona, according to three people familiar with the call.

Trump also repeatedly asked Vice President Mike Pence to call Ducey and prod him to find the evidence to substantiate Trump’s claims of fraud, according to two of these people. Pence called Ducey several times to discuss the election, they said, though he did not follow Trump’s directions to pressure the governor.

The extent of Trump’s efforts to cajole Ducey into helping him stay in power has not before been reported, even as other efforts by Trump’s lawyer and allies to pressure Arizona officials have been made public. Ducey told reporters in December 2020 that he and Trump had spoken, but he declined to disclose the contents of the call then or in the more than two years since. Although he disagreed with Trump about the outcome of the election, Ducey has sought to avoid a public battle with Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/01/trump-2020-election-arizona-governor-doug-ducey/

WTF did he think all those governors were? His personal private investigators?

More like tribute-owing vassals.

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"the racist DA in crime ridden Atlanta"

That's nice.
I can't wait to see his ass in jail. I will laugh forever.

If he does end up in jail, his actions will have contributed to Atlanta's crime rate.

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Trump got indicted on page 100 of the Mar-A-Lago thread, but he managed to cut it down to 98 for the January 6th thread.

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If you lock him up, forget 1/6, it'll be 1776.

Wait, which side is which?

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I went down to the courthouse after I got off work. I walked down from the Judiciary Square Metro station, which is behind the courthouse from the main entrance. As it happened, I got there right as Trump was leaving out the back. Not sure which of these trucks he was in, but it was one of them.



The ratio of people out front was media>police>random passersby>all protesters/activists on all sides. The pro-Trump crowd seemed a bit bigger than the anti-Trump crowd, but we're talking a few dozen people, maybe a hundred combined. I will give one Trump guy credit, though. He was singing "Party in the USA" dressed in full Minutemen garb. That's a level of self confidence that is usually reserved only for goths.

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Trump's not a fan of Jan 2.

Deranged Jack Smith has just asked for a trial on the Biden Indictment to take place on January 2nd., just ahead of the important Iowa Caucuses. Only an out of touch lunatic would ask for such a date, ONE DAY into the New Year,  and maximum Election Interference with IOWA! Such a trial, which should never take place due to my First Amendment Rights, and massive BIDEN CORRUPTION, should only happen, if at all, AFTER THE ELECTION. The same with other Fake Biden Indictments. ELECTION INTERFERENCE!

Why not just make it January 6th?

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Overheard on the DC metro just now: "If Trump gets indicted in Georgia, he'll be the only person to face charges in four different jurisdictions apart from the DC sniper."

(Don't know if it's true he'd be the only other one, but I think it's true they both faced/ are facing charges in four different jurisdictions.)