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 on: Today at 03:20:11 AM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Benjamin Frank 2.0
Jesus Christ. Why all the simping for two-tiered justice systems here? Seriously. The endless bootlicking for criminal politicians has become insufferable here. You hunch-backed weirdos all write this crap knowing full f#cking well that Joe Blow would be getting his ass rammed in prison right now if he committed one-tenth of the degree of crimes the likes of Nixon or Bush or Trump have committed.

There has to be a reason for it. Is it the same reason multiple users worship warmongers like Scoop Jackson or LBJ on here? Are we so ingrained in the doings of the political establishment that we do their propaganda work for them, in the hopes that one day we, too, might become like them or enjoy the same prestige? Do you want to sit with daddy in the big chair one day?

Is that all you’ve got? Do you seriously have nothing better to do than come and white knight for (legally and/or morally compromised) scumbag politicians? Are you the head of a nursery? Is that what you do? You are a child. You are a child. You are a child.

This isn’t about a two tiered justice system. This is about keeping the damn country together. Half of my posts on this forum are about how much I don’t like Trump and how I believe he’s a danger to democracy. I’ve made it very clear where I stand on him. My issue is that instead of being vulnerable and reaching out to people on the right, people on the left have a “better than you” attitude and instead chose to harass and name-call them, further emboldening people on the right to adopt a victim mentality (of which Trump is the ultimate representation). And people with that mentality will eventually use that mentality to justify physical violence. Does the rise in militia membership, constant social media dogwhistles, and the rescripting of the January 6 attack as a “patriotic demonstration,” not signal to you that what you’ve been doing for the past few years hasn’t been working?

Times of crisis require leaders to show courage and to do things that are unpopular. We’re approaching one of those crises again. Biden is the President- the most powerful person in the country, and he has to do something to demonstrate to all Americans, not just those on the left, that his commitment to keeping the country together is genuine. If he doesn’t, people on the right will turn to Trump, and the lord only knows what kind of ugly things Trump is willing to unleash on our country.

Appeasing would be terrorists is probably not a good idea. There are other problems with your argument as well, but I'm going to bed.

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 on: Today at 03:19:27 AM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Landslide Lyndon

Jesus Christ. Why all the simping for two-tiered justice systems here? Seriously. The endless bootlicking for criminal politicians has become insufferable here. You hunch-backed weirdos all write this crap knowing full f#cking well that Joe Blow would be getting his ass rammed in prison right now if he committed one-tenth of the degree of crimes the likes of Nixon or Bush or Trump have committed.

There has to be a reason for it. Is it the same reason multiple users worship warmongers like Scoop Jackson or LBJ on here? Are we so ingrained in the doings of the political establishment that we do their propaganda work for them, in the hopes that one day we, too, might become like them or enjoy the same prestige? Do you want to sit with daddy in the big chair one day?

Is that all you’ve got? Do you seriously have nothing better to do than come and white knight for (legally and/or morally compromised) scumbag politicians? Are you the head of a nursery? Is that what you do? You are a child. You are a child. You are a child.

This isn’t about a two tiered justice system. This is about keeping the damn country together. Half of my posts on this forum are about how much I don’t like Trump and how I believe he’s a danger to democracy. I’ve made it very clear where I stand on him. My issue is that instead of being vulnerable and reaching out to people on the right, people on the left have a “better than you” attitude and instead chose to harass and name-call them, further emboldening people on the right to adopt a victim mentality (of which Trump is the ultimate representation). And people with that mentality will eventually use that mentality to justify physical violence. Does the rise in militia membership, constant social media dogwhistles, and the rescripting of the January 6 attack as a “patriotic demonstration,” not signal to you that what you’ve been doing for the past few years hasn’t been working?

Times of crisis require leaders to show courage and to do things that are unpopular. We’re approaching one of those crises again. Biden is the President- the most powerful person in the country, and he has to do something to demonstrate to all Americans, not just those on the left, that his commitment to keeping the country together is genuine. If he doesn’t, people on the right will turn to Trump, and the lord only knows what kind of ugly things Trump is willing to unleash on our country.

If holding accountable a former president for his crimes is going to tear a country apart then this country isn't worth saving.

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 on: Today at 03:13:36 AM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by OSR stands with Israel
Even Mitt Romney is opposed to this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna152420

 
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that the president “made an enormous error” by not pressuring New York prosecutors to drop their case against Trump. (Presidents can pardon only in federal cases.)

"He should have fought like crazy to keep this prosecution from going forward,” Romney said, referring to Biden. “It was a win-win for Donald Trump.”

Pressed by Ruhle whether that is Biden’s job to pardon Trump, Romney said he believes that Biden should have taken a cue from former President Lyndon B. Johnson, saying that the president could have stepped in and urged New York prosecutors to drop the case.“I have been around for a while. If LBJ had been president, and he didn’t want something like this to happen, he’d have been all over that prosecutor saying, ‘You better not bring that forward or I’m gonna drive you out of office,’” he said.



This a pretty naive take, even for a fairly naive politician like Romney.

Biden isn't LBJ. No President in the modern party system has institutional power like LBJ had in Washington. And LBJ had it just in Washington! This is a New York State case, after all.

Bragg should be publicly shamed by the Democratic Party . I mean this is a guy who lets far worse crime go on a daily basis . Also you can issue a pardon on these charges and thus remove any incentive to bring the case to begin with
The President cannot pardon state crimes. How do some of y’all still not get this?

The governor of New York can

Should the other 34 defendants in Manhattan that have been charged by Bragg's DA office with felony counts for falsifying business records be granted pardons too?



What Romney is saying is presidents should not  be charged for stuff like this .

At the very least if you are gonna, then you should require them to be allowed an auto appeal to the state Supreme Court or SCOTUS(depending on whether it’s a state or federal charge) and let them decide if they should get immunity for that particular charge

This might be the most unhinged nonsense I have ever read on Atlas.

How is that unhinged

 4 
 on: Today at 03:13:28 AM 
Started by Frodo - Last post by JGibson
Further proof that RFK Jr. is Diet MAGA.

 5 
 on: Today at 03:11:21 AM 
Started by lfromnj - Last post by President Punxsutawney Phil
Overproduction of elites is in fact a real problem. It has contributed to immense social strife throughout history.

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 on: Today at 03:06:07 AM 
Started by WV222 - Last post by Burke Bro

Jesus Christ. Why all the simping for two-tiered justice systems here? Seriously. The endless bootlicking for criminal politicians has become insufferable here. You hunch-backed weirdos all write this crap knowing full f#cking well that Joe Blow would be getting his ass rammed in prison right now if he committed one-tenth of the degree of crimes the likes of Nixon or Bush or Trump have committed.

There has to be a reason for it. Is it the same reason multiple users worship warmongers like Scoop Jackson or LBJ on here? Are we so ingrained in the doings of the political establishment that we do their propaganda work for them, in the hopes that one day we, too, might become like them or enjoy the same prestige? Do you want to sit with daddy in the big chair one day?

Is that all you’ve got? Do you seriously have nothing better to do than come and white knight for (legally and/or morally compromised) scumbag politicians? Are you the head of a nursery? Is that what you do? You are a child. You are a child. You are a child.

This isn’t about a two tiered justice system. This is about keeping the damn country together. Half of my posts on this forum are about how much I don’t like Trump and how I believe he’s a danger to democracy. I’ve made it very clear where I stand on him. My issue is that instead of being vulnerable and reaching out to people on the right, people on the left have a “better than you” attitude and instead chose to harass and name-call them, further emboldening people on the right to adopt a victim mentality (of which Trump is the ultimate representation). And people with that mentality will eventually use that mentality to justify physical violence. Does the rise in militia membership, constant social media dogwhistles, and the rescripting of the January 6 attack as a “patriotic demonstration,” not signal to you that what you’ve been doing for the past few years hasn’t been working?

Times of crisis require leaders to show courage and to do things that are unpopular. We’re approaching one of those crises again. Biden is the President- the most powerful person in the country, and he has to do something to demonstrate to all Americans, not just those on the left, that his commitment to keeping the country together is genuine. If he doesn’t, people on the right will turn to Trump, and the lord only knows what kind of ugly things Trump is willing to unleash on our country.

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 on: Today at 03:05:38 AM 
Started by Harry Hayfield - Last post by YL
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqee94582d5o

Sinn Féin not running in four NI constituencies. It seems like the nationalist and unionists are both expanding their pacts from last time.

The only one where SF is at all relevant is Belfast South but that one is actually significant. If SF ran there would be at least a chance for the DUP to come up through the middle again as they did in 2017 (especially with the expanded seat as I think the areas of Down it expanded into are solidly unionist).

The area added are quite Unionist but they are not very big. You might think from the name change that they have added great swathes of central County Down, but it is really just the town of Saintfield and a few even smaller places. Some of the other changes help Unionism less and overall the notional DUP vote goes up by less than a percentage point. The 2017 result does show the potential for a DUP win, but I suspect demographic change since then more than cancels out the boundary change.

I do wonder whether with SF not standing and the DUP out of contention as a result, some Alliance supporters who voted for Hanna last time might go back to Alliance. But I don’t see the SDLP losing this time.

 8 
 on: Today at 03:02:29 AM 
Started by I spent the winter writing songs about getting better - Last post by illuminativampire
Some brave patriots tried but were sadly silenced by the woke mob.

 9 
 on: Today at 03:01:37 AM 
Started by Skill and Chance - Last post by Yoda
I love how this idiotic proposition fundamentally implies that there are scores of red state prosecutors out there who have had damning criminal evidence on the Clintons and Obama for years now and have just been doing nothing with it for.....reasons?

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 on: Today at 03:00:35 AM 
Started by President Punxsutawney Phil - Last post by President Punxsutawney Phil
I've always said "doj" personally.

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