FBI search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago (Update: Trump Indicted!)

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/1572302210431881216

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1572311244115419137

Genuinely and pleasantly surprised this was unanimous

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/NormEisen/status/1571308537745129472

I think Garland's Ellis Island speech should be getting more attention. It was heartfelt, powerful, and perhaps a window into his current state of mind. I'm not quoting the whole speech (though I believe it is well worth reading, and watching). Here is some of what he said (that will make it clear why I'm posting this speech in this thread):

In the preamble of the Constitution, those Americans enumerated those hopes: to form a more perfect union; establish justice; ensure domestic tranquility; provide for the common defense; promote the general welfare …
And importantly – in their words – “to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.”

Like them, each of you has now made a commitment not only to this nation and your fellow Americans, but to the generations of Americans who will come after you.

In that commitment, you have given your posterity – and the posterity of all of us – a precious gift.

I know how valuable that gift is because it is the same one my grandparents gave my family and me.

I come from a family of immigrants who fled religious persecution early in the 20th Century and sought refuge here in the United States. Some of my family entered right here, at Ellis Island.

My grandmother was one of five children born in what is now Belarus. Three made it to the United States, including my grandmother who came through the Port of Baltimore.

Two did not make it. Those two were killed in the Holocaust.

If not for America, there is little doubt that the same would have happened to my grandmother.

But this country took her in. And under the protection of our laws, she was able to live without fear of persecution.

I am also married to the daughter of an immigrant who came through the Port of New York in 1938.

Shortly after Hitler’s army entered Austria that year, my wife’s mother escaped to the United States. Under the protection of our laws, she too, was able to live without fear of persecution.

That protection is what distinguishes America from so many other countries. The protection of law – the Rule of Law – is the foundation of our system of government.

The Rule of Law means that the same laws apply to all of us, regardless of whether we are this country’s newest citizens or whether our [families] have been here for generations.

The Rule of Law means that the law treats each of us alike: there is not one rule for friends, another for foes; one rule for the powerful, another for the powerless; a rule for the rich, another for the poor; or different rules, depending upon one’s race or ethnicity or country of origin.

The Rule of Law means that we are all protected in the exercise of our civil rights; in our freedom to worship and think as we please; and in the peaceful expression of our opinions, our beliefs, and our ideas.

Of course, we still have work to do to make a more perfect union. Although the Rule of Law has always been our guiding light, we have not always been faithful to it.

The Rule of Law is not assured. It is fragile. It demands constant effort and vigilance.

The responsibility to ensure the Rule of Law is and has been the duty of every generation in our country’s history. It is now your duty as well. And it is one that is especially urgent today at a time of intense polarization in America.

The United States is no stranger to what our Founders called the risk of faction. Alexander Hamilton and James Madison wrote about it in the Federalist Papers. George Washington warned against it in his Farewell Address.

Overcoming the current polarization in our public life is, and will continue to be, a difficult task.

But we cannot overcome it by ignoring it. We must address the fractures in our society with honesty, with humility, and with respect for the Rule of Law.

This demands that we tolerate peaceful disagreement with one another on issues of politics and policy. It demands that we listen to each other, even when we disagree. And it demands that we reject violence and threats of violence that endanger each other and endanger our democracy.

We must not allow the fractures between us to fracture our democracy.

We are all in this together. We are all Americans.

On this historic day and in this historic place, let us make a promise that each of us will protect each other and our democracy.

That we will honor and defend our Constitution.

That we will recognize and respect the dignity of our fellow Americans.

That we will uphold the Rule of Law and seek to make real the promise of equal justice under law.

That we will do what is right, even if that means doing what is difficult.

And that we will do these things not only for ourselves, but for the generations of Americans who will come after us.

[emailking]

Yeah I feel Garland has given a few soliloquies now in which, if you read between the lines, he's basically indicating that he's, at the very least, seriously considering indicting Trump.

[Ferguson97]

Yeah I feel Garland has given a few soliloquies now in which, if you read between the lines, he's basically indicating that he's, at the very least, seriously considering indicting Trump.

I honest to god do not understand why people think there’s even a chance that Garland will decline to indict Trump. Why bother going to all this trouble?

[Frodo]

Yeah I feel Garland has given a few soliloquies now in which, if you read between the lines, he's basically indicating that he's, at the very least, seriously considering indicting Trump.

I honest to god do not understand why people think there’s even a chance that Garland will decline to indict Trump. Why bother going to all this trouble?

There may not be an 'October Surprise' per se -but there may be a 'November Surprise' with Attorney General Merrick Garland actually showing backbone and finally indicting Donald Trump with Election Day behind us. 

[emailking]

In a phone interview today, Trump said he's holding back the footage of the raid to protect the FBI agents, but said "it's not pretty" and that "it looks like a military coup."

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

In a phone interview today, Trump said he's holding back the footage of the raid to protect the FBI agents, but said "it's not pretty" and that "it looks like a military coup."

It's always projection.

[Torie]

Trump’s lawyers want to look at the documents themselves that they claim that Trump may have declassified, but won’t provide any evidence because it would expose their legal strategy to the DOJ. Why have a special master if Trump’s lawyers can look at it? Trump seems to have a phobia about providing any evidence.  His thing is unsubstantiated claims. Who knew?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/us/politics/trump-declassification-documents.html

"But apparently undercutting that argument, Mr. Trusty told Judge Dearie at the hearing that he wanted some of his legal partners to get expedited top secret security clearances so that they, too, could view the documents. Mr. Trusty said he already had a top-secret clearance from another case.

'Complicating the matter even further, Julie Edelstein, a lawyer for the Justice Department, told Judge Dearie that a handful of the documents at issue were so secret that even Mr. Trusty’s clearance might not be enough.

'Mr. Trusty responded that “it was kind of astounding” that the government would seek to keep Mr. Trump’s legal team from seeing some of the classified material in the case. They needed to see it all, he said, to determine whether the government had acted properly by removing it during the search of Mar-a-Lago."

[Torie]

Yeah I feel Garland has given a few soliloquies now in which, if you read between the lines, he's basically indicating that he's, at the very least, seriously considering indicting Trump.

I honest to god do not understand why people think there’s even a chance that Garland will decline to indict Trump. Why bother going to all this trouble?

Because they want the documents. My take is that Trump will be indicted if there is an airtight case that he hid sensitive documents and lied about it. That remains to be seen.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump’s lawyers want to look at the documents themselves that they claim that Trump may have declassified, but won’t provide any evidence because it would expose their legal strategy to the DOJ. Why have a special master if Trump’s lawyers can look at it? Trump seems to have a phobia about providing any evidence.  His thing is unsubstantiated claims. Who knew?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/us/politics/trump-declassification-documents.html

"But apparently undercutting that argument, Mr. Trusty told Judge Dearie at the hearing that he wanted some of his legal partners to get expedited top secret security clearances so that they, too, could view the documents. Mr. Trusty said he already had a top-secret clearance from another case.

'Complicating the matter even further, Julie Edelstein, a lawyer for the Justice Department, told Judge Dearie that a handful of the documents at issue were so secret that even Mr. Trusty’s clearance might not be enough.

'Mr. Trusty responded that “it was kind of astounding” that the government would seek to keep Mr. Trump’s legal team from seeing some of the classified material in the case. They needed to see it all, he said, to determine whether the government had acted properly by removing it during the search of Mar-a-Lago."

Can anyone explain why this shouldn't be taken as transparently offensive stupidity?  I mean:

"Trump took a bunch of documents marked as classified."

"We want a special master to review the documents, because some of them are really Trump's, not evidence."

"No, we won't provide anything saying which ones are Trump's, or why they're Trump's."

"Trump's lawyers  don't know what documents were taken, even though they were in Trump's possession, reviewed by Trump's lawyers, and supposedly declassified by Trump, and they got receipts."

"Trump's lawyers 'solution' is that Trump's lawyers - who are themselves suspects and/or registered foreign agents - be allowed to review all the documents instead of the special master."

I mean the motivation is obvious: delay, with a side helping of stealing or destroying evidence, plus maybe figuring out just how badly they've all screwed up (since one or more of Trump and his lawyers have lied to a court about them). But the idea that anyone, let alone a court, should be expected to give this transparent lying BS a pretense of credibility is patently offensive to reason.

[brucejoel99]

"Eat sh*t, MAGA" - 2 Trump judges & an Obama judge:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572728179718258688

[philly09]

https://twitter.com/dnlbrns/status/1572728437873287169

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1572730266644545541

[emailking]

I think he can also ask the full 11th to look at it but doubtful they'll go for it either.

[brucejoel99]

I think he can also ask the full 11th to look at it but doubtful they'll go for it either.

11th Circ. rules actually preclude reconsideration of an emergency stay, & so there was talk earlier this week of DoJ, if still skittish post-Cannon, filing this initial appeal en-banc instead of in front of this random panel, but thankfully the panel came through, so SCOTUS is indeed Trump's only route for an appeal now.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

https://twitter.com/dnlbrns/status/1572728437873287169

It tells you a lot about how reckless Cannon's order was that this is a unanimous decision by a panel with two Trump-appointed judges.

[DaleCooper]

I think he can also ask the full 11th to look at it but doubtful they'll go for it either.

11th Circ. rules actually preclude reconsideration of an emergency stay, & so there was talk earlier this week of DoJ, if still skittish post-Cannon, filing this initial appeal en-banc instead of in front of this random panel, but thankfully the panel came through, so SCOTUS is indeed Trump's only route for an appeal now.

I'd be surprised if SCOTUS even wants to hear it. They've got their jobs for life, and they're where they are so that they can issue edicts like Dobbs, not blow their credibility on personal favors to Trump.

[Gass3268]

Have we've ever had a more intellectually incompetent President?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1572763147555033090?s=20&t=B1Hbq0DlMoFhY_b...

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1572762559534727169

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

Have we've ever had a more intellectually incompetent President?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1572763147555033090?s=20&t=B1Hbq0DlMoFhY_b...

If you don't have documentation it can't possibly have the force of law, and I can't believe I have to explain something like that.

[GeorgiaModerate]

One thing that amazes me is how fast things have unfolded in the last few days. Trump went judge shopping to get a special master appointed and expected things to get tied up in appeals, all to delay delay delay. Instead, Judge Dearie and the 11th Circuit have acted with lightning speed and gotten the investigation back on track for the DOJ.

[Dr. MB]

Just leaked Biden's green new deal is paying US oil companies not to produce oil, They call it transfer of wealth they are stealing us blind, When they do produce oil the government is Subsidizing them, The Clinton foundation Obama foundation and George Soros spent tens of billions of dollars in investing in oil that's why we have high prices, This corrupt Crime organization that overthrown the US government Funneling hundreds of billions of dollars through ukrane to get laundered back to their corporations remember remember when Obama put Bill Clinton in charge of 22 billion dollars to rebuild Haiti where is that money,FBI and cIA,NSA under Trump found democrats, taking money from Mexican and Chinese Drug cartels , When they were caught they said it will be legal once they make them US citizens

[DaleCooper]

Just leaked Biden's green new deal is paying US oil companies not to produce oil, They call it transfer of wealth they are stealing us blind, When they do produce oil the government is Subsidizing them, The Clinton foundation Obama foundation and George Soros spent tens of billions of dollars in investing in oil that's why we have high prices, This corrupt Crime organization that overthrown the US government Funneling hundreds of billions of dollars through ukrane to get laundered back to their corporations remember remember when Obama put Bill Clinton in charge of 22 billion dollars to rebuild Haiti where is that money,FBI and cIA,NSA under Trump found democrats, taking money from Mexican and Chinese Drug cartels , When they were caught they said it will be legal once they make them US citizens

Wow, I'm convinced.

[Crumpets]

Have we've ever had a more intellectually incompetent President?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1572763147555033090?s=20&t=B1Hbq0DlMoFhY_b...

Follow up question Mr. President: can the sitting president also mentally re-classify material that had been mentally declassified?