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« Reply #25525 on: August 30, 2023, 08:57:05 AM »
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« Reply #25526 on: August 30, 2023, 08:59:28 AM »




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« Reply #25527 on: August 30, 2023, 09:05:27 AM »

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« Reply #25528 on: August 30, 2023, 09:38:00 AM »

So, more about this offensive that isn't getting anywhere?
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« Reply #25529 on: August 30, 2023, 09:40:44 AM »

A great read for anyone who’s interested
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/win-long-war-strategy-counteroffensive
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« Reply #25530 on: August 30, 2023, 12:32:19 PM »

So, more about this offensive that isn't getting anywhere?

They're breaking through more and more Russian lines every day, what do you mean it isn't getting anywhere?  There's been a lot of progress over the last week.

A lot of people are acting like this is all about the amount of territory seized.  It's not.  In a war of attrition, it's about the number of lines busted.  Once they break through the Russian defenses, all the territory behind the lines is up for grabs.  Just like in World War 1, where the Germans surrendered when allied forces hadn't even crossed the French border yet.
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« Reply #25531 on: August 30, 2023, 12:34:45 PM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-08-30/russia-is-the-big-winner-from-opec-output-cuts

"Russia Is the Big Winner From OPEC+ Output Cuts"

Saudi Arabia's policies within OPEC+ seem to be structured to uniquely help Russia.  At least it seems to have that effect
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« Reply #25532 on: August 30, 2023, 07:00:21 PM »

If reports are accurate and the Ukrainians have in fact broken through the Verbove line, I'd imagine that their next goal is to break through the last of the three lines at Romanivske, giving them a relatively clear path to roll along a path parallel to and behind the lines all the way into Tokmak.

Around the beginning of August I was starting to worry the counteroffensive was going nowhere. An advance to Tokmak would prove me wrong big time and this is one of those cases where I'd love to be wrong.
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« Reply #25533 on: August 31, 2023, 01:12:24 AM »

Sounds just like the script of the movie "Face/Off"

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"Look who needs the ammo now Shoigu".
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« Reply #25534 on: August 31, 2023, 02:20:41 AM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-08-30/russia-is-the-big-winner-from-opec-output-cuts

"Russia Is the Big Winner From OPEC+ Output Cuts"

Saudi Arabia's policies within OPEC+ seem to be structured to uniquely help Russia.  At least it seems to have that effect

Saudi Arabia seems to be against a complete victory for either side.
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« Reply #25535 on: August 31, 2023, 04:29:03 AM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-31/ukraine-s-defense-chief-may-be-dismissed-next-week-pravda-says

"Ukraine’s Defense Chief May Exit Next Week, Pravda Says"

Looks like Ukraine Minister of Defence Reznikov will be out soon
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« Reply #25536 on: August 31, 2023, 06:05:21 AM »

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-western-firms-military-contracts-failing-deliver-weapons-1823008

"Western Firms Are Stiffing Ukraine on Military Equipment Contracts"

It seems Ukraine wants some of their money back.  It seems its tome for another accounting error to be found to close this gap.

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« Reply #25537 on: August 31, 2023, 07:33:08 AM »

So, more about this offensive that isn't getting anywhere?

They're breaking through more and more Russian lines every day, what do you mean it isn't getting anywhere?  There's been a lot of progress over the last week.

Who do you think I am exactly? Another jaichind/Woody/bilaps/Hollywood??
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« Reply #25538 on: August 31, 2023, 07:40:12 AM »

Russian topographic view of the battlefield around Rabotino has the Russians in a good position since they, like Obi-Wan Kenobi, hold the high ground

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« Reply #25539 on: August 31, 2023, 07:49:06 AM »

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-kuleba-tells-critics-counter-offensive-shut-up-2023-08-31/

"Ukraine's Kuleba tells critics of counter-offensive to 'shut up'"

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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba hit out on Thursday at critics of Kyiv's tactics in its counter-offensive against Russia's invasion, saying they were spitting in the faces of Ukrainian soldiers and should "shut up".

Tell critics to shut up is another great chapter in "making friends and influencing people"
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« Reply #25540 on: August 31, 2023, 09:43:49 AM »


God Defmon is a great account to follow 😆
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« Reply #25541 on: August 31, 2023, 02:39:19 PM »

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=469771.msg9188532#msg9188532

"What’s Stopping Ukraine From Flying F-16s"

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It is expected to take at least four months to train Ukraine’s pilots on aircraft more advanced than what they are used to flying, and on tactics and weapons they are not used to employing. It could take even longer to teach them enough English to understand training manuals and to communicate with air traffic controllers and instructors. The avionics on the planes, including the buttons, are in English.
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« Reply #25542 on: August 31, 2023, 02:41:02 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/31/world/russia-ukraine-news#:~:text=Ukrainian%20officials%20are%20reviewing%20the,allowing%20people%20to%20evade%20conscription.

"Ukraine’s military medical commissions are under review amid concerns about draft evasion"

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Mr. Zelensky said in his nightly address late Wednesday that since Russia invaded Ukraine last year, “at least thousands of people” had used falsified health documents to avoid conscription and flee abroad. Under martial law declared after the invasion, men aged 18 to 60 are barred from leaving the country, unless they are deemed unfit for combat.
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« Reply #25543 on: August 31, 2023, 02:54:15 PM »

https://tass.com/society/1667981

"About half of Ukrainians left their country, Russian Security Council’s Medvedev says"

Medvedev  claims that by his calculation that the population in territories under the control of the Ukrainian government is most likely less than 20 million
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« Reply #25544 on: August 31, 2023, 02:59:34 PM »

https://tass.com/society/1667981

"About half of Ukrainians left their country, Russian Security Council’s Medvedev says"

Medvedev  claims that by his calculation that the population in territories under the control of the Ukrainian government is most likely less than 20 million

Only fools would believe what Putin's lapdog has to say.
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« Reply #25545 on: August 31, 2023, 03:45:05 PM »

So, more about this offensive that isn't getting anywhere?

They're breaking through more and more Russian lines every day, what do you mean it isn't getting anywhere?  There's been a lot of progress over the last week.

Who do you think I am exactly? Another jaichind/Woody/bilaps/Hollywood??

Nice to see old fans are still remember me.

Great progress for Ukrainian offensive though. They reached main defensive line in some places. Didn't lose much obviously, that's why their defence minister is on it's way out.
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« Reply #25546 on: August 31, 2023, 05:36:01 PM »

Their defense monster is getting fired over not cracking down on a company that sold them bad uniform equipment. I posted about this scandal weeks ago
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« Reply #25547 on: August 31, 2023, 07:50:02 PM »

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« Reply #25548 on: August 31, 2023, 07:52:06 PM »


I wonder what 2021 profits were...
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« Reply #25549 on: August 31, 2023, 09:43:14 PM »

So, more about this offensive that isn't getting anywhere?

They're breaking through more and more Russian lines every day, what do you mean it isn't getting anywhere?  There's been a lot of progress over the last week.

Who do you think I am exactly? Another jaichind/Woody/bilaps/Hollywood??

Nice to see old fans are still remember me.

Great progress for Ukrainian offensive though. They reached main defensive line in some places. Didn't lose much obviously, that's why their defence minister is on it's way out.

I admire your chutzpah contributing to this thread again. Not actually being sarcastic.
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