Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[PSOL]

So how does Russia continue it war on Ukraine after this?

It's clear for anyone to see that Russia is too weak to even control its own territory.

They don’t, Ukraine will see to it that they get most of their territory back and basically end the war

Also, I’m unsurprised the sections of the exiled Russian bourgeoisie are backing prighozin

[Ricardian1485]

The mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness, either by oppressing you, who are their master, or others contrary to your intentions

   

Still holds true. Maybe Putin should have read The Prince.

[Storr]

A true blast from the past (like Russian civil wars), built in 1981.

I guess this means the Rostov airport is still open? ....For now?

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1672445052914630660?s=20

[Ferguson97]

If Russia is serious about peace, they need to make territorial concessions to Wagner to end the war.

[Catholics vs. Convicts]

A true blast from the past (like Russian civil wars), built in 1981.

I guess this means the Rostov airport is still open? ....For now?

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1672445052914630660?s=20

What does this mean? An emissary?

[Storr]

A true blast from the past (like Russian civil wars), built in 1981.

I guess this means the Rostov airport is still open? ....For now?

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1672445052914630660?s=20

What does this mean? An emissary?

I'm not sure. By the time I went to flightradar24 the plane was no longer there/being tracked. I'm guessing they turned off their transponder.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What a wild day for Russia...

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1672451004770529280?s=20

Everyone's standing around waiting, except the Rostov street sweepers:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672452360117837825?s=20

[pppolitics]

What a wild day for Russia...

What an understatement.

[PSOL]

How are oil prices right now?

[Oleg 🇰🇿🤝🇺🇦]

That would be ideal. The question is if Western policymakers have enough will and/or ability to acheive that. They are partially chained to the whims of their voters.

Critically that runs against the interest of the USA military-industrial complex that helps fund the neocons in USA politics

True, there is some clash between the desire for America to have better market share in the arms market and Ukraine being able to stand on its own.
Ukraine would be well-advised to try to get funds from elsewhere just to hedge its options. (Gulf Arab money and the Saudis being kept as options just in case)

I will do one better.  Ukraine should take a more moderate position toward the Russians, at least appear so.  Ukraine then can say to collective West: "if you do not help us build up our military industrial complex with tons of aid and technology as well as tons of economic aid, I will do a deal with Putin where we will align with Russia geopolitically."  Even if it is a bluff the perception that Ukraine could go that way will enhance its negociations power vis-à-vis the collective West

This cannot be done with Putin, who is literally waging a war to exterminate Ukrainians, but it's possible with Erdogan or Xi. As far as I could see, the Ukrainian government treats them very well. Maybe they just can't imagine that there could be another monster like Putin in the world.

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1672452022027599876?s=20

[Aurelius2]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

[PSOL]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

That could be nice…

[NOVA Green]

Well, looks like "Putin's Chef" is now accusing the Russian military of having deliberately killed civilians... (Presumably Ukrainian).

Murky is the swamp...


https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1672387950191992834?s=20

[Aurelius2]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

That could be nice…

I guarantee you a warlord era will be much, much worse for Russian civilians than even Putin's rule, but I suppose your delusional dreams of a communist revolution that will never happen are more important than what actually will happen.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1672455179851923456?s=20

[PSOL]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

That could be nice…

I guarantee you a warlord era will be much, much worse for Russian civilians than even Putin's rule, but I suppose your delusional dreams of a communist revolution that will never happen are more important than what actually will happen.

I’ll take my chances for the long term

[Storr]

Pavlovsk, Voronezh Oblast is 360km north of Rostov on the M4 highway.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672434007370350592?s=20

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672433134011285505?s=20

More from Pavlovsk:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672457517958414336?s=20

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

That could be nice…

Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a Warlord Era in a country with nuclear weapons is not a good idea.

[NOVA Green]

"Anti-Terrorist" measures are now being introduced in Moscow:

In Moscow, “anti-terrorist measures are being taken,” according to the telegram channel of Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin.

“In connection with the incoming information, anti-terrorist measures are being taken in Moscow aimed at strengthening security measures. Additional control on the roads has been introduced. It is possible to limit the holding of public events. I ask you to treat the measures taken with understanding, ”the message says.

zona.media/chronicle/isthiscoup#55324

In Lipetsk region:

In the Lipetsk region, security measures will be strengthened, according to the telegram channel of Governor Igor Artamonov.

“Following the meeting of the operational headquarters, a decision was made to strengthen security measures in the region. Particular attention will be paid to critical infrastructure facilities. In addition, residents of the region are now advised to stop traveling to the south, in particular, to the Voronezh region.

Friends, recent events have excited us all. But I ask everyone to remain calm and trust information only from official sources,” the governor wrote.

https://zona.media/chronicle/isthiscoup#55324

[PSOL]

This is one of those weeks where decades happen.

Yup. Whether Prigozhin wins or loses, there is going to be a very different constitutional order in Russia after this plays out.

I can kinda see this turning to a Warlord Era for Russia.

That could be nice…

Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a Warlord Era in a country with nuclear weapons is not a good idea.

Fearing nuclear war is for paper tigers

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1672460335222239232?s=12

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1672454390098042883?s=20