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« Reply #2825 on: October 26, 2021, 02:08:45 PM »

The Maryland RV is slightly higher at 55-41 but yeah, it's still ugly.

The Maryland poll is another good example of what we're seeing - again, a big reason why Biden is falling in a lot of these polls is because Dem constituencies are hitting disapprove. So it's not necessarily a great barometer, since most will still vote D vs. R but it's good at seeing how unhappy they are with nothing getting done.

It's the reason why 18-34 #s are dragging him down. This bloc is always going to vote overwhelmingly for Ds in elections, but they are clearly showcasing their frustration with the Biden admin and not enough getting done in these polls. The MD poll has 18-34 approval in single digits.

While this bloc votes D hugely, Biden needs to make sure there is stuff done for this group. Student Loan Forgiveness of some kind would be a great start, but some of the stuff in the reconciliation bill is also a start.

Lol, sorry, but throwing money around isn't the solution. You can buy a couple of votes but you'll lead to anger elsewhere. The problems go far, far deeper than that. This is fundamentally an administration that has no understanding of the culture we live in, macroeconomic policy, the conditions of the working class, and the values of anyone not left of center. This administration has absolutely zero view or focus as to what it should be doing; it believes it can just throw money everywhere and hope it fixes everything. 

For example, while student loan debt relief may buy the votes of some people who have student loan debt, it does nothing to fix the inflated prices of college education; in fact, it makes it significantly worse. The problem with college education is 1) they spend far too much on building taj mehal-esque buildings to attract new students, 2) require far too many credits to graduate (it should be 90 instead of 120; why the hell do we need to take general elective classes? that should be for high school), 3) The government student loan program does not properly underwrite the risk and gives blanket, unaccountable checks that people cannot pay back. All three of these problems need to be addressed before you do any widespread student loan debt relief, otherwise you're just constantly putting on band-aids on a hole that is leaking everywhere.

The democratic party needs to become a significantly smarter party. Throwing money around as if it's worth nothing will... make money be worth nothing. As we're seeing with the rampant inflation going on. The Brandon administration has been dumb as sh!t so far.
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« Reply #2826 on: October 26, 2021, 02:24:30 PM »

The Maryland RV is slightly higher at 55-41 but yeah, it's still ugly.

The Maryland poll is another good example of what we're seeing - again, a big reason why Biden is falling in a lot of these polls is because Dem constituencies are hitting disapprove. So it's not necessarily a great barometer, since most will still vote D vs. R but it's good at seeing how unhappy they are with nothing getting done.

It's the reason why 18-34 #s are dragging him down. This bloc is always going to vote overwhelmingly for Ds in elections, but they are clearly showcasing their frustration with the Biden admin and not enough getting done in these polls. The MD poll has 18-34 approval in single digits.

While this bloc votes D hugely, Biden needs to make sure there is stuff done for this group. Student Loan Forgiveness of some kind would be a great start, but some of the stuff in the reconciliation bill is also a start.

Lol, sorry, but throwing money around isn't the solution. You can buy a couple of votes but you'll lead to anger elsewhere. The problems go far, far deeper than that. This is fundamentally an administration that has no understanding of the culture we live in, macroeconomic policy, the conditions of the working class, and the values of anyone not left of center. This administration has absolutely zero view or focus as to what it should be doing; it believes it can just throw money everywhere and hope it fixes everything. 

For example, while student loan debt relief may buy the votes of some people who have student loan debt, it does nothing to fix the inflated prices of college education; in fact, it makes it significantly worse. The problem with college education is 1) they spend far too much on building taj mehal-esque buildings to attract new students, 2) require far too many credits to graduate (it should be 90 instead of 120; why the hell do we need to take general elective classes? that should be for high school), 3) The government student loan program does not properly underwrite the risk and gives blanket, unaccountable checks that people cannot pay back. All three of these problems need to be addressed before you do any widespread student loan debt relief, otherwise you're just constantly putting on band-aids on a hole that is leaking everywhere.

The democratic party needs to become a significantly smarter party. Throwing money around as if it's worth nothing will... make money be worth nothing. As we're seeing with the rampant inflation going on. The Brandon administration has been dumb as sh!t so far.

Well first of all that was just one example I noted. I also think you really overestimate what normal people want to see, acting as if the average person is a lot deeper of a thinker than they are. Lots of things in the reconciliation bill are things the average person can use, like universal pre-K. Just like the child tax credit was a huge boon for parents and families.

Pretty sure this administration does realize the time we're in, but is being stymied by a few of their own party members.
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« Reply #2827 on: October 26, 2021, 02:53:39 PM »

The Maryland RV is slightly higher at 55-41 but yeah, it's still ugly.

The Maryland poll is another good example of what we're seeing - again, a big reason why Biden is falling in a lot of these polls is because Dem constituencies are hitting disapprove. So it's not necessarily a great barometer, since most will still vote D vs. R but it's good at seeing how unhappy they are with nothing getting done.

It's the reason why 18-34 #s are dragging him down. This bloc is always going to vote overwhelmingly for Ds in elections, but they are clearly showcasing their frustration with the Biden admin and not enough getting done in these polls. The MD poll has 18-34 approval in single digits.

While this bloc votes D hugely, Biden needs to make sure there is stuff done for this group. Student Loan Forgiveness of some kind would be a great start, but some of the stuff in the reconciliation bill is also a start.

Lol, sorry, but throwing money around isn't the solution. You can buy a couple of votes but you'll lead to anger elsewhere. The problems go far, far deeper than that. This is fundamentally an administration that has no understanding of the culture we live in, macroeconomic policy, the conditions of the working class, and the values of anyone not left of center. This administration has absolutely zero view or focus as to what it should be doing; it believes it can just throw money everywhere and hope it fixes everything.  

For example, while student loan debt relief may buy the votes of some people who have student loan debt, it does nothing to fix the inflated prices of college education; in fact, it makes it significantly worse. The problem with college education is 1) they spend far too much on building taj mehal-esque buildings to attract new students, 2) require far too many credits to graduate (it should be 90 instead of 120; why the hell do we need to take general elective classes? that should be for high school), 3) The government student loan program does not properly underwrite the risk and gives blanket, unaccountable checks that people cannot pay back. All three of these problems need to be addressed before you do any widespread student loan debt relief, otherwise you're just constantly putting on band-aids on a hole that is leaking everywhere.

The democratic party needs to become a significantly smarter party. Throwing money around as if it's worth nothing will... make money be worth nothing. As we're seeing with the rampant inflation going on. The Brandon administration has been dumb as sh!t so far.

Well first of all that was just one example I noted. I also think you really overestimate what normal people want to see, acting as if the average person is a lot deeper of a thinker than they are. Lots of things in the reconciliation bill are things the average person can use, like universal pre-K. Just like the child tax credit was a huge boon for parents and families.

Pretty sure this administration does realize the time we're in, but is being stymied by a few of their own party members.


Most people are supportive of various spending programs in theory, but many people innately realize that there is a problem with the government spending too much, even if they don't really understand the exact economic implications. For example, while the stimulus package earlier this year polled as incredibly popular (I think it polled at like 60-70% or something), it didn't actually budge Biden's approvals by more than 1-2%. People are generally "supportive" of various different spending measures, but many people understand that the money does not just come out of thin air, and that there are consequences to just spending money. I do not think you will see a significant change in Biden's approval from the reconciliation bill unless they are able to narrow it down to a few key changes and actually sell the public on its merits.


I think people are beginning to start to realize that the emperor has no clothes. Biden is going to have to find something new to wear to significantly change people's opinions on him. The current course is unsustainable and unsightly.
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« Reply #2828 on: October 26, 2021, 03:09:23 PM »

We are looking at polls so deeply s yr before an Election, Biden isn't ztruko and a criminal once his agenda that Rs are unblocked including VR his Approvals will go up

Trump list reelection because he was a criminal and his son Don Jr met with Russia to get diet on Hillary, he was impeached twice

The Rs still want him back, electing RS in 2022 and 2024 won't end Covid, we weren't even vaccinated until Biden got into office

Biden Approvals are low not because he is a criminal like Trump Ludlow on Sean Hannity said that anxiety over Covid that's why Ds can win a wave inn2022/24 as soon as they end Filibuster on VR
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« Reply #2829 on: October 26, 2021, 05:45:06 PM »

New Hampshire, (A/B)-rated Saint Anselm College, 1323 New Hampshire registered voters.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/saintanselmcollegesurveyoctober2021-1635277209.pdf

Approvals
Biden 44/56 (strongly 19/52)
Sununu 56/42
Shaheen 46/48
Hassan 44/50

GB - R+3

Would you say that things in our country are heading in the right direction, or have things
gotten off on the wrong track?
  • Right 21%
  • Wrong 68%
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« Reply #2830 on: October 26, 2021, 06:04:00 PM »

Well pbower2A it's gonna be an RH and a DS,, it's not gonna be a Secular Trifecta, Manchin said today he doesn't support carve out to Debt Ceiling Filibuster meaning no VR reform, he dies support the Prez using the 14tu Amendment to increase the Debt Ceiling on his own

Even if the VR Reform passed it had to get pass a 5/4 Conservative Cry even with Kennedy in 2017/ supported Gerrymandering

Roberts is probably the only Justice, he is a Maverick not a Liberal he doesn't support all liberal policies would he the only one Conservative to support VR anyways Gorsuch has been very clear on his policies

Laws passed by Congress, signed into Law and gotjry Judicial Review, this is a 6/3, Conservative Crt not Liberal Crt, you do realize that
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« Reply #2831 on: October 26, 2021, 07:08:25 PM »

Well pbower2A it's gonna be an RH and a DS,, it's not gonna be a Secular Trifecta, Manchin said today he doesn't support carve out to Debt Ceiling Filibuster meaning no VR reform, he dies support the Prez using the 14tu Amendment to increase the Debt Ceiling on his own

Even if the VR Reform passed it had to get pass a 5/4 Conservative Cry even with Kennedy in 2017/ supported Gerrymandering

Roberts is probably the only Justice, he is a Maverick not a Liberal he doesn't support all liberal policies would he the only one Conservative to support VR anyways Gorsuch has been very clear on his policies

Laws passed by Congress, signed into Law and gotjry Judicial Review, this is a 6/3, Conservative Crt not Liberal Crt, you do realize that
When is the last time you would support a republican?
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« Reply #2832 on: October 26, 2021, 09:20:18 PM »


Connecticut: PPP, Oct. 21-22, 729 LV

Approve 48
Disapprove 43


Virginia, (B+)-rated Suffolk University, 500 LV

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/other-states/2021/10_26_2021_tables.pdf?la=en&hash=06F70767CC4BC3FD43D9CDB42ECC52E3512D8F2D

Job Approval:
Biden 41/52
Northam 47/42

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Biden 45/50
Northam 44/42
Youngkin 43/36
McAuliffe 43/42


Right/wrong direction:
26/66

If you can find my last state approval map, please post it for these updates. If things are as bad for President Biden in 2004, then prepare a fascist America.


New Hampshire, (A/B)-rated Saint Anselm College, 1323 New Hampshire registered voters.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/saintanselmcollegesurveyoctober2021-1635277209.pdf

Approvals
Biden 44/56 (strongly 19/52)
Sununu 56/42
Shaheen 46/48
Hassan 44/50

GB - R+3

Would you say that things in our country are heading in the right direction, or have things
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  • Right 21%
  • Wrong 68%





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The EC map is reverting right back to 304 blue wall because D's have done zip on VR, and Manchin says he's not gonna create a carve out for Debt Ceiling and VR, he said if Congress fais to act on the debt Ceiling, not to break impasse with Plantium coin but create a Legislative veto like War Powers Act and Prez unilaterally agree to raise the Debt Ceiling his own self

The Rs would tie VR in a 6/3 SCOTUS up in Crt preceedongs anyways

What happened to Beto, pbower2A said TX was in play because McCounghey and Beto were competetive with Abbott, it Abbott gotten competetive, he would bt Nate Silver said on You tube 55/45 like he did in 2018
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« Reply #2833 on: October 26, 2021, 09:23:14 PM »

While D's are gonna certainly get their way on spending they still gonna have a Debt Ceiling peobl on Dec 3rd right after Thanksgiving
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« Reply #2834 on: October 26, 2021, 10:06:47 PM »

New Hampshire, (A/B)-rated Saint Anselm College, 1323 New Hampshire registered voters.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/saintanselmcollegesurveyoctober2021-1635277209.pdf

Approvals
Biden 44/56 (strongly 19/52)
Sununu 56/42
Shaheen 46/48
Hassan 44/50

GB - R+3

Would you say that things in our country are heading in the right direction, or have things
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  • Right 21%
  • Wrong 68%

Seriously, this is absolutely terrible for Biden
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« Reply #2835 on: October 27, 2021, 12:47:41 AM »

Manchin just said if DS keep pushing him to end the Filibuster he will become an R or Indy, and  Filibuster reform wouldn't matter anyway
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« Reply #2836 on: October 27, 2021, 12:57:00 AM »
« Edited: October 27, 2021, 01:01:26 AM by Mr. MANDELA BARNES »

Its a 304 map now anyways, and it was in 2020, we are gonna have to deal with Divided Govt unless Covid disappears

Biden hasn't done anything on controlling border and everyone knows that illegals get on more entitlement and Section 8 vouchers before anyone else, the more children you have the better

Just like this child tax credit was a slap in face to Seniors or Disabled that don't have kids to get extra monies

Everyone should have gotten another stimulus, Biden was at

61 percent 2jen everyone got a stimulus and Newsom is playing games with 60o that was supposed to be delivered after the Election

Did you just see the NH poll Sununu is ahead by 5, it's not tilt R yet but in NH is that way we're gonna have trouble I'm GA in a Runoff, that's tilt R in a Runoff scenario, we only won GA due to McComnell obstruction of 2k checks
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« Reply #2837 on: October 27, 2021, 05:44:58 AM »

What happened to Beto, pbower2A said TX was in play because McCounghey and Beto were competetive with Abbott, it Abbott gotten competetive, he would bt Nate Silver said on You tube 55/45 like he did in 2018

We, the People, want to see pbrower2a maps!
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« Reply #2838 on: October 27, 2021, 07:57:05 AM »

Even if we gotten a Supermajority Senate the D's are gonna keep giving non Afro American minorities benefits the Section 8 vouchers are in big states like iL, CA and NY that have huge Katincmx population and they get it based on they have more children to raise than Blks

PR Statehood would go over even more entitlement spending to LATINX

There any Fed Jobs or state jobs Guarentee, you are just a number and when your number is called by a computer then you are gonna gilet your Govt job, no one wants to work mickey mouse jobs and you can get on Disability ANYMORE, that's why there job shortages

So, a Supermajority Congress just like 2009/11 wants to pass a Public option on Obamacare like they're doing on Medicare expansion

What did Brucejoel say after Medicare Expansion, we are going for the public option
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« Reply #2839 on: October 27, 2021, 08:35:02 AM »

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Oct. 24-26, 1500 adults including 1261 RV


Adults:

Approve 43 (-1)
Disapprove 49 (+3)

Strongly approve 17 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 37 (+1)


RV:

Approve 45 (nc)
Disapprove 49 (+1)

Strongly approve 19 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 39 (nc)

GCB (RV only): D 44 (+2), R 38 (+1)
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« Reply #2840 on: October 27, 2021, 08:49:38 AM »

The GBC in conjunction with Biden approvals is interesting here. Although I would expect a majority of undecideds to break R in 2022, it still shows Biden's weakness isn't necessarily a result of a GOP resurgence.

People may underestimate how many Americans are dissatisfied with both parties, be it agenda or lack thereof or their general attitude. So Biden having medicore or poor approvals doesn't automatically benefit the GOP, and vise versa. Trump still did better than approvals suggested, especially his approvals in 2017 and 2018. I see this pattern as a symptom of a failed party system since 2 parties are simply not enough to depict the political spectrum in this country.
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« Reply #2841 on: October 27, 2021, 09:42:54 AM »

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« Reply #2842 on: October 27, 2021, 09:43:38 AM »

The GBC in conjunction with Biden approvals is interesting here. Although I would expect a majority of undecideds to break R in 2022, it still shows Biden's weakness isn't necessarily a result of a GOP resurgence.

People may underestimate how many Americans are dissatisfied with both parties, be it agenda or lack thereof or their general attitude. So Biden having medicore or poor approvals doesn't automatically benefit the GOP, and vise versa. Trump still did better than approvals suggested, especially his approvals in 2017 and 2018. I see this pattern as a symptom of a failed party system since 2 parties are simply not enough to depict the political spectrum in this country.

I think the GCB stuff also goes to show what we've been talking about in here might be correct - how Biden's approval is sagging because a lot of Dem leaning voters are voicing their disapproval of what's happening - but those voters will still come home to the Ds when given the D vs R option.

Again, Trump's base of white, non college educated voters stuck with him no matter what. They hit that 'approve' button even in his worst days. Biden's core constituencies are not just going to say 'approve' if they don't. That's where the two differ, and why the two's approvals can't necessarily be compared in the same way.

Democrats are always willing to voice their disdain for their own party quicker than Republicans.
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« Reply #2843 on: October 27, 2021, 10:05:53 AM »

Biden underwater by 6 points (43 disapprove, 49 approve)... in NEW JERSEY!

https://newjerseyglobe.com/polling/biden-approval-underwater-in-new-jersey-43-49/
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« Reply #2844 on: October 27, 2021, 10:15:31 AM »


Until we see actual things get done in Washington, this is all unsurprising.

Though we're at a point again where (most) national polls are showing a different picture than state polls are.
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« Reply #2845 on: October 27, 2021, 10:38:34 AM »

Connecticut: PPP, Oct. 21-22, 729 LV

Approve 48
Disapprove 43


Virginia, (B+)-rated Suffolk University, 500 LV

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/other-states/2021/10_26_2021_tables.pdf?la=en&hash=06F70767CC4BC3FD43D9CDB42ECC52E3512D8F2D

Job Approval:
Biden 41/52
Northam 47/42

Fav:
Biden 45/50
Northam 44/42
Youngkin 43/36
McAuliffe 43/42


Right/wrong direction:
26/66

If you can find my last state approval map, please post it for these updates. If things are as bad for President Biden in 2004, then prepare a fascist America.


New Hampshire, (A/B)-rated Saint Anselm College, 1323 New Hampshire registered voters.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/saintanselmcollegesurveyoctober2021-1635277209.pdf

Approvals
Biden 44/56 (strongly 19/52)
Sununu 56/42
Shaheen 46/48
Hassan 44/50

GB - R+3

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Looking at the national picture, President Joe Biden’s job performance rating in the Garden State has dropped into net negative territory – 43% approve and 49% disapprove. His prior ratings from New Jersey voters showed him with majority approval levels (51% in August and 55% in May). By contrast, Murphy has maintained a positive rating as governor since the pandemic began. He currently stands at 52% approve and 39% disapprove, a result that is basically in line with his ratings throughout this year. About one-third of New Jersey voters (32%) say Murphy has been able to get more things done in Trenton than Biden has in Washington. Just 7% say Murphy has done less while nearly half (47%) say the two men have been able to get the same amount done.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_nj_102721/
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« Reply #2846 on: October 27, 2021, 10:40:44 AM »

Could someone please find my statewide polling map?

OK, OK, OK... some legislative success is likely to improve things for President Biden. 
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« Reply #2847 on: October 27, 2021, 10:53:23 AM »

Biden's #s are absolute crap with 18-34 in NJ as well which is unsurprising. Major part of why his approval rating is tanked there. Until Biden gets tangible things done, this group is not likely to hit 'approve' anytime soon (though they're also not voting R anytime soon either...)
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« Reply #2848 on: October 27, 2021, 10:58:00 AM »

Could someone please find my statewide polling map?

OK, OK, OK... some legislative success is likely to improve things for President Biden. 



I wonder if legislative success will actually move the needle much though?
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« Reply #2849 on: October 27, 2021, 11:22:31 AM »

Could someone please find my statewide polling map?

OK, OK, OK... some legislative success is likely to improve things for President Biden. 



I wonder if legislative success will actually move the needle much though?

I think what's sinking Biden the most right now is the notion of nothing getting done and the "chaos" in Washington. People need to see stuff getting done and feel tangible benefits, and right now all they see is fighting, fighting, fighting with nothing getting passed.
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