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« Reply #9350 on: November 05, 2020, 07:15:45 AM »

If Biden wins Michigan by 3% or higher, will Debbie Dingell take back her stupid comments on how Dems have flopped and failed and 'need to get better talking to working class men and women'?
DUDE you literally said it wouldn't be close for months. Why should anyone care what you think?

3% in Michigan is not really that close.
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« Reply #9351 on: November 05, 2020, 07:16:00 AM »

But why is it November 5th and we are all still talking about this? Most of you guys said it would be a landslide and Trump had no chance? You said I was crazy for thinking it was even competitive. Are you guys now trying to convince yourselves that Trump didn't win?

I mean, once all the votes are counted, it's quite possible Biden has over 300K EVs, so that not be competitive

Nice to know we added the entire continent of Africa to our great, great country.  

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« Reply #9352 on: November 05, 2020, 07:16:49 AM »

Wasserman still being a Biden win, due to Trump underperforming his margins, and Biden doing well in rural counties like Bethlehem where he is leading by 0.4(Trump won it 2016).  He spoke to a PA GOP spokesman who said Trump "is in deep trouble".

Bethlehem, PA? That's Lehigh and Northampton counties.  

I do try to take these "I spoke to [blank]" accounts with a grain of salt.  These folks, whoever they are, might not have any more info than the rest of us.  



Biden has taken the lead in Northampton.
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« Reply #9353 on: November 05, 2020, 07:16:53 AM »

Wasserman said Biden would have to run the table with Georgia votes and he sounded extremely pessimistic.

Georgia SoS says only 25k votes left and Biden down 18k. This is the final time I’ll say it, Georgia is over.
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« Reply #9354 on: November 05, 2020, 07:17:20 AM »

But why is it November 5th and we are all still talking about this? Most of you guys said it would be a landslide and Trump had no chance? You said I was crazy for thinking it was even competitive. Are you guys now trying to convince yourselves that Trump didn't win?

I mean, once all the votes are counted, it's quite possible Biden has over 300K EVs, so that not be competitive
It's very possible once all the votes are counted Trump was re-elected.
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« Reply #9355 on: November 05, 2020, 07:17:43 AM »

Wasserman still being a Biden win, due to Trump underperforming his margins, and Biden doing well in rural counties like Bethlehem where he is leading by 0.4(Trump won it 2016).  He spoke to a PA GOP spokesman who said Trump "is in deep trouble".

Bethlehem, PA? That's Lehigh and Northampton counties.  

I do try to take these "I spoke to [blank]" accounts with a grain of salt.  These folks, whoever they are, might not have any more info than the rest of us.  



Biden has taken the lead in Northampton.

Oh I'm aware (shame on me, I had Northampton as Trump hold).  I'm talking about the state as a whole.  
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« Reply #9356 on: November 05, 2020, 07:18:50 AM »

Outside of those ~35K ballots in Allegheny County, Biden also outperformed Hillary 2016.

2016: Hillary +16.4
2020 (so far): Biden +19.1

In at least decent-to-big counties completed so far in PA, Biden has improved *at least* 2/3% on Hillary's margin.

There also appears to be a *LOT* still out in Erie and Lehigh too in terms of mails. Delaware and Bucks seem to have good chunks out too.
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« Reply #9357 on: November 05, 2020, 07:18:53 AM »

If Biden wins Michigan by 3% or higher, will Debbie Dingell take back her stupid comments on how Dems have flopped and failed and 'need to get better talking to working class men and women'?
DUDE you literally said it wouldn't be close for months. Why should anyone care what you think?


3% in Michigan is not really that close.
Trump most likely won bro. He won Florida by 3%, Iowa and Ohio by 8%, Texas by 6%. He has a  very good chance of carrying Nevada or Arizona. Georgia looks good and PA too. GOP won this election. Gained in the house and senate is GOP still. If it goes to litigation he has the edge.
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« Reply #9358 on: November 05, 2020, 07:21:25 AM »

Outside of those ~35K ballots in Allegheny County, Biden also outperformed Hillary 2016.

2016: Hillary +16.4
2020 (so far): Biden +19.1

In at least decent-to-big counties completed so far in PA, Biden has improved *at least* 2/3% on Hillary's margin.

There also appears to be a *LOT* still out in Erie and Lehigh too in terms of mails. Delaware and Bucks seem to have good chunks out too.

Widely reported that Biden will take Erie back from Trump.
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« Reply #9359 on: November 05, 2020, 07:21:39 AM »

Wasserman said Biden would have to run the table with Georgia votes and he sounded extremely pessimistic.

Georgia SoS says only 25k votes left and Biden down 18k. This is the final time I’ll say it, Georgia is over.

If there are actually only 25K left, and Biden gets ~75% as he's been getting, that would literally be a tie.
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« Reply #9360 on: November 05, 2020, 07:22:12 AM »

Outside of those ~35K ballots in Allegheny County, Biden also outperformed Hillary 2016.

2016: Hillary +16.4
2020 (so far): Biden +19.1

In at least decent-to-big counties completed so far in PA, Biden has improved *at least* 2/3% on Hillary's margin.

There also appears to be a *LOT* still out in Erie and Lehigh too in terms of mails. Delaware and Bucks seem to have good chunks out too.

Widely reported that Biden will take Erie back from Trump.

Yep, Biden has closed the gap and there appears to be a lot of mail still out there.
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« Reply #9361 on: November 05, 2020, 07:22:25 AM »

Outside of those ~35K ballots in Allegheny County, Biden also outperformed Hillary 2016.

2016: Hillary +16.4
2020 (so far): Biden +19.1

In at least decent-to-big counties completed so far in PA, Biden has improved *at least* 2/3% on Hillary's margin.

There also appears to be a *LOT* still out in Erie and Lehigh too in terms of mails. Delaware and Bucks seem to have good chunks out too.

That margin in Chester County is pretty stunning (+16, a sixteen-point swing from 2012).  
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« Reply #9362 on: November 05, 2020, 07:23:42 AM »

RE: Georgia - we may have the same issue as PA. The state says there is "25K left to count" but we don't know if there is a lag, wherein there is votes that been *counted* but not *reported* yet. I.e. they may have counted 10K but not reported them yet.
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« Reply #9363 on: November 05, 2020, 07:25:11 AM »

So, what Doom level are we currently at? Are we still holding steady at DOOM-CON 5 or are we already at DOOM-CON 4?
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« Reply #9364 on: November 05, 2020, 07:26:22 AM »

Outside of those ~35K ballots in Allegheny County, Biden also outperformed Hillary 2016.

2016: Hillary +16.4
2020 (so far): Biden +19.1

In at least decent-to-big counties completed so far in PA, Biden has improved *at least* 2/3% on Hillary's margin.

There also appears to be a *LOT* still out in Erie and Lehigh too in terms of mails. Delaware and Bucks seem to have good chunks out too.

Widely reported that Biden will take Erie back from Trump.

Sourcey-source?

The NYT election ticker. Mail ballots in Erie are breaking 3 to 1 for Biden.
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« Reply #9365 on: November 05, 2020, 07:28:36 AM »

It's possible GA has *counted* votes but not *reported* them, since the 25K figure is way off from the 60K+ figure they said last night.



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« Reply #9366 on: November 05, 2020, 07:29:29 AM »

Also fwi the guy who is being cited by the doomers here with Pennsylvania says even with his numbers Biden is gonna win Pennsylvania. He just has the margin slightly under 100k
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« Reply #9367 on: November 05, 2020, 07:30:54 AM »

Dauphin County, PA (Harrisburg) is interesting too. Nearly done counting.

2016: Hillary +2.9
2020: Biden +8.3
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« Reply #9368 on: November 05, 2020, 07:31:20 AM »

It's possible GA has *counted* votes but not *reported* them, since the 25K figure is way off from the 60K+ figure they said last night.




The same thing in PA.  Just because a ballot has been processes doesn't automatically mean that it is posted.  I haven't see a Fulton update all night.
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« Reply #9369 on: November 05, 2020, 07:33:50 AM »

Will we know today?
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« Reply #9370 on: November 05, 2020, 07:33:57 AM »

Suburb Philly shift in PA with mostly completed:

Montgomery County
2016: Hillary +21.3
2020: Biden +26.0

Chester County
2016: Hillary +9.4
2020: Biden +16.6
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« Reply #9371 on: November 05, 2020, 07:34:37 AM »

If Biden wins Michigan by 3% or higher, will Debbie Dingell take back her stupid comments on how Dems have flopped and failed and 'need to get better talking to working class men and women'?
DUDE you literally said it wouldn't be close for months. Why should anyone care what you think?


3% in Michigan is not really that close.
Trump most likely won bro. He won Florida by 3%, Iowa and Ohio by 8%, Texas by 6%. He has a  very good chance of carrying Nevada or Arizona. Georgia looks good and PA too. GOP won this election. Gained in the house and senate is GOP still. If it goes to litigation he has the edge.

Uh oh, someone drank the hard kool aid.
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« Reply #9372 on: November 05, 2020, 07:34:44 AM »

That's because the Fulton County website administrators wisely decided to do what some people here should - go home and get some sleep.
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« Reply #9373 on: November 05, 2020, 07:34:55 AM »

Suburb Philly shift in PA with mostly completed:

Montgomery County
2016: Hillary +21.3
2020: Biden +26.0

Chester County
2016: Hillary +9.4
2020: Biden +16.6

And Trump seems to have overperformed his 2016 margins almost nowhere, correct?
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« Reply #9374 on: November 05, 2020, 07:35:22 AM »

Secretary of State says we will by noon.  Take of that what you will.
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