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« Reply #925 on: May 31, 2019, 02:45:49 PM »

Is Bernie still running? I only hear about Biden these days.


Don't worry he's still in the race. Bernie is just gasping about the poor performance of Jeremy Corbyn in the European election, knowing it will have a mark on his electorally.
Today I learned international elections affect the result of the Democratic primary in the USA.
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« Reply #926 on: May 31, 2019, 02:47:34 PM »

not absurd posts cause I would have reacted the same way, but reading through the old 2017 UK election results post made me chuckle:

Rumors are that Kensington is tight between LAB and CON

This is right up there with "Do coal miners vote Tory?"

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« Reply #927 on: May 31, 2019, 11:58:26 PM »

Excellent!  Now the ball is in Madigan's court.

Hopefully he blocks it


He should do at least one good thing for Illinois, and that good thing is blocking marijuana access (which should be illegal nationwide)

It's funny because you're one of the people who could benefit from a joint the most.

Thinking that I would use a substance that should be illegal Roll Eyes

He didn't say you would use it, just that you should.
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« Reply #928 on: June 01, 2019, 11:15:31 PM »

More top-notch #analysis from our resident bullshitmonger:

The Democratic Party is still recovering from the utter battering it took in 1972, when the AFL-CIO opted to not endorse a candidate, rather than endorse George McGovern.
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« Reply #929 on: June 01, 2019, 11:49:20 PM »

From an outsider perspective, why does the Vatican care so much about immigration all of a sudden? How much leftist billionaire money are they begging for here?

This rapid liberalization of the church's message goes against most of what the Catholic church stands for.
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« Reply #930 on: June 02, 2019, 03:30:48 PM »

This question is dumb to begin with.

Like, what 16 year old is going to come to their mom or dad and be like; "Yo, do you mind if I f**ck this (guy/girl)"?

I think it should require a written consent from the parent, properly verified by the county clerk.

It should be illegal for a parent to “not allow” their 16 year old to have sex. Fine the parent $1000 if they object or attempt to enforce this on them.

We need to go to extreme measures to reject the nanny state and the culture that perpetuates it, not the opposite direction.
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« Reply #931 on: June 06, 2019, 11:39:31 AM »

The elephant in the room is the likely voters who either (1) refuse to answer or (2) outright lie about their preferences.

There was the 1982 CA governor's race, in which Bradley (D) was leading the polls, but Deukmejian (R) won.

There was the 1989 VA governor's race, in which Wilder (D) was leading by 10 in the polls, but ended up winning by a mere 0.4% over Coleman (R).

There was the 1992 Presidential election, in which Clinton polled at 49% but ended up winning with just 43%. Perot polled at 14% but ended up with 19%.

And then there was 2016.

People don't always tell the truth to pollsters, and such untruth is not necessarily evenly ideologically split, as the above example show. In particular, people don't want to tell a stranger that they plan to vote for someone who is widely regarded as fascist.

Biden beating Trump by 12 in a poll probably means he will win MI by 3. And, yes, Biden can do that while losing Bay, Macomb, and maybe even Saginaw Counties; his gains in Ingham, Kent, Oakland, Washtenaw, and even Livingston Counties will more than make up for those losses.
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« Reply #932 on: June 06, 2019, 02:32:04 PM »

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« Reply #933 on: June 06, 2019, 06:33:22 PM »

Currently, there are two major leftest political figures running for president: Sanders (77 years old) and Warren (69 years old). As of this point, it appears unlikely that anyone else will emerge from the left during this cycle. If Trump wins re-election, Sanders and Warren will be 83 and 75 respectively when the 46th president takes office in 2025; if a Democrat wins in 2020, they will likely be the figurehead of the party until 2028, at which point Sanders and Warren will be 87 and 79. This begs the question: Who will be the next major figure to represent the left?

One idea I have had is former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner. Nina Turner, currently 51, does not have the same age troubles as both of these older figures. Additionally, after her time in the Ohio State Senate, she began working with the 2016 Sanders campaign. After his loss she became the head of the Our Revolution and now has rejoined Sanders directly, becoming the co-chair of his 2020 campaign.

I have heard her speak in person twice: once in 2018 having been invited by the local Our Revolution chapter and again just last month as the hype-women for a Sanders speech. Both times I found her a powerful and compelling speaker to the point where I felt a little disappointed that she was not the main speaker at the Sanders rally (even better than Sanders himself).

While being an excellent speaker is definitely a major quality, there are several reasons to doubt that she will be able to quickly rise to the position of next major figure. The biggest detraction I can think of is that of her relative lack of political experience and the fact that she would start as a relative unknown. While she did win over one million votes in her unsuccessful bid in 2014 for Ohio's SoS position, an unsuccessful campaign normally burns from people's memories fairly quickly. And, without early support from other aging members of the left wing, it seems unlikely that she would be able to gain traction quickly enough to become, say, a candidate in the 2024 or '28 presidential primaries without a very small field or other unlikely circumstance.

What do y'all think? #draftnina2024? If not a presidential run, where will she go from here and will she become a national figure on the left?
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« Reply #934 on: June 06, 2019, 09:00:39 PM »

Seriously hoping this is some bad attempt at satire...

pro-choice, for eugenist (eugenistic?) reasons, but slightly uncomfortable with this question. Technically, this is an obvious murder. But emotionnally, no comparison with the death of a young baby.

My mom had a miscarriage some years ago, and I felt nothing. But I would never says abortion is a moral thing.

By exemple, the feminist stance "my body belongs to me" is false, in this case, because the foetus is not THEIR body.

So, I share argues of pro-life people, but for eugenics, malthusianims and selfishness (I never wanted children), I stand on the pro-choice side, but not with pro-choice people. Hard to explain that clearly.
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« Reply #935 on: June 07, 2019, 12:50:28 AM »

Seriously hoping this is some bad attempt at satire...

pro-choice, for eugenist (eugenistic?) reasons, but slightly uncomfortable with this question. Technically, this is an obvious murder. But emotionnally, no comparison with the death of a young baby.

My mom had a miscarriage some years ago, and I felt nothing. But I would never says abortion is a moral thing.

By exemple, the feminist stance "my body belongs to me" is false, in this case, because the foetus is not THEIR body.

So, I share argues of pro-life people, but for eugenics, malthusianims and selfishness (I never wanted children), I stand on the pro-choice side, but not with pro-choice people. Hard to explain that clearly.

“Abortion is murder, but I actually really like murder” is an ... interesting stance.
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« Reply #936 on: June 07, 2019, 02:59:44 AM »

Seriously hoping this is some bad attempt at satire...

pro-choice, for eugenist (eugenistic?) reasons, but slightly uncomfortable with this question. Technically, this is an obvious murder. But emotionnally, no comparison with the death of a young baby.

My mom had a miscarriage some years ago, and I felt nothing. But I would never says abortion is a moral thing.

By exemple, the feminist stance "my body belongs to me" is false, in this case, because the foetus is not THEIR body.

So, I share argues of pro-life people, but for eugenics, malthusianims and selfishness (I never wanted children), I stand on the pro-choice side, but not with pro-choice people. Hard to explain that clearly.

It's better than the psychos who want to ban all abortion without exception.
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« Reply #937 on: June 07, 2019, 12:58:14 PM »

Trump himself was already on the left of his immediate GOP predecessors so I'm not sure why this is a surprise.

Trump campaigned to the left of past GOP nominees, but he's clearly governed as a standard neoliberal right-winger on everything other than trade. his economic policies are just as far-right as Reagan's, and his foreign policy is basically the status quo. I guess he's to the left of Dubya and Reagan in the sense that he doesn't seem to personally care about LGBT issues or abortion, but this is replaced by being way to their right on immigration and stoking white nationalism, so your mileage may vary.
I mean it didn’t used to be that following immigration laws was a conservative position. Protectionism includes protection from foreign competition. It’s just that Democrats realized that they win illegal immigrants 90-10 so they may as well encourage people coming here illegally in order to win elections.
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« Reply #938 on: June 08, 2019, 01:02:10 PM »


I really need these dangerous substances Roll Eyes (sigh)
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« Reply #939 on: June 08, 2019, 01:08:47 PM »

Labour holds the seat


This is an embarrassment for farage

This is like trump losing western Nebraska
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« Reply #940 on: June 08, 2019, 02:46:21 PM »

Labour holds the seat


This is an embarrassment for farage

This is like trump losing western Nebraska

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« Reply #941 on: June 14, 2019, 10:45:23 PM »

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« Reply #942 on: June 15, 2019, 12:00:22 PM »

And predictably, the sex-starved males of Atlas come out of the woodwork to defend Snowflake Robbie.

You and your 112 posts haven't been around long enough to say "predicably" around here. 

I defend innocent human life, which begins at conception, complete with a God-given soul.  That this woman cannot even acknowledge that this is, indeed, what it's about for those of us who do view abortion as the taking of an innocent human life, is how depraved she is.



Somewhere in your city, there is a lab full of fertilized embryos, some of which may be implanted in the uteruses of women trying to get pregnant, others which will likely sit there and "wither on the vine" or perhaps turn rotten after a power outage or lab worker error causes them to melt.

Are they also "God-given souls"? When they get thrown out, have they "died"? Why don't they get a funeral? When they go to Heaven, do they get to turn into "real" people or are they just doomed to remain as little tadpole-like creatures that squirm around and can't speak or think?

A fertilized egg, growing and developing inside the womb, is a human being.

I assure you that these souls, in Heaven, will be ever with the Lord, worshipping Jesus for all eternity in His Glory, just as I will.  Christ's redemptive work on the Cross was for them as well as for you and I.


So the fertilized embryos in the lab aren't people, then?

But that contradicts your view that life begins at conception.

So does life not begin until implantation?

Which is it?

This is a really important question that needs to be answered. Fuzzy must clarify whether he believes personhood begins at fertilization or implantation (either term can be referred to as "conception").

You're the Death Advocate.  I've expressed myself.  You tell me where YOU think human life begins, because if I'm wrong, no human being gets killed (in an abortion) but if you're wrong, human beings get killed.

You have a far greater obligation to specify what you believe because the consequences of your error are greater.
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« Reply #943 on: June 15, 2019, 03:31:50 PM »

And predictably, the sex-starved males of Atlas come out of the woodwork to defend Snowflake Robbie.

You and your 112 posts haven't been around long enough to say "predicably" around here. 

I defend innocent human life, which begins at conception, complete with a God-given soul.  That this woman cannot even acknowledge that this is, indeed, what it's about for those of us who do view abortion as the taking of an innocent human life, is how depraved she is.



Somewhere in your city, there is a lab full of fertilized embryos, some of which may be implanted in the uteruses of women trying to get pregnant, others which will likely sit there and "wither on the vine" or perhaps turn rotten after a power outage or lab worker error causes them to melt.

Are they also "God-given souls"? When they get thrown out, have they "died"? Why don't they get a funeral? When they go to Heaven, do they get to turn into "real" people or are they just doomed to remain as little tadpole-like creatures that squirm around and can't speak or think?

A fertilized egg, growing and developing inside the womb, is a human being.

I assure you that these souls, in Heaven, will be ever with the Lord, worshipping Jesus for all eternity in His Glory, just as I will.  Christ's redemptive work on the Cross was for them as well as for you and I.


So the fertilized embryos in the lab aren't people, then?

But that contradicts your view that life begins at conception.

So does life not begin until implantation?

Which is it?

This is a really important question that needs to be answered. Fuzzy must clarify whether he believes personhood begins at fertilization or implantation (either term can be referred to as "conception").

You're the Death Advocate.  I've expressed myself.  You tell me where YOU think human life begins, because if I'm wrong, no human being gets killed (in an abortion) but if you're wrong, human beings get killed.

You have a far greater obligation to specify what you believe because the consequences of your error are greater.


I somewhat agree with this, other than the "Death Advocate" part.  but regardless, I'm pro-choice.
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« Reply #944 on: June 15, 2019, 08:07:30 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2019, 08:14:19 PM by POL_Itician »

Where to begin with this garbage:

GA is not fooling good for the Democrats and the Republican are acting like the Democrats with PA if they think its some inelastic safe state.

Republicans are maxed out in rural areas and probably in the suburbs. Trump will perform worse than Kemp in the suburbs. I doubt he will get that margin in Oconee or Columbia. I think he will drop into the 50s in resort towns like Greene and Glynn.

There also the problem Republican face with already blue counties. Clarke, Richmond, and Rockdale are nearing 70%. Bibb, Chatham, Douglas, Henry, and Muscogee are guaranteed to break 60% at this point.

Republicans are on life support here and the only thing keeping them in power is cheating, minimum growth in the Blue Ridge mountains, the inflated temporary margin in Cherokee, Forsyth, Columbia, and Fayette, and Coweta. Plus the fact that the Georgia Democrats still don't know about Hispanics population in Gainsville and Dalton.
They're done. Abrams brought out a historic number of black voters and other minorities for a midterm but it still didn't match Presidential. My theory remains that she converted high information white Independents/soft Republicans + turned out hordes of first-time voters of color but couldn't break the habit of low propensity Democrats who only vote in Presidentials. That third part of her coalition is what will break the dam for Democrats in 2020 and demographics will break it outright in 2022. But we have to fight the obstacles the corrupt GOP will set up at the ballot box.
Because being on life support = Winning every statewide office. Right.

Although the state is obviously trending Democratic due to demographic changes it's foolish to assert that the GOP can't possibly do better than Kemp's performance when every other Republican except Raffensberger did so.
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« Reply #945 on: June 16, 2019, 05:27:20 PM »

Joseph Stalin did very little wrong and was, all in all, an upstanding guy and great revolutionary.

Holodomor was fake.

DPRK, China, and Cuba are all viable examples of actually existing socialism that we should learn from and seek to emulate.

Russia is good and cool.

Maduro is bae.

Assad is bae.
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« Reply #946 on: June 16, 2019, 09:17:47 PM »

Joseph Stalin did very little wrong and was, all in all, an upstanding guy and great revolutionary.

Holodomor was fake.

DPRK, China, and Cuba are all viable examples of actually existing socialism that we should learn from and seek to emulate.

Russia is good and cool.

Maduro is bae.

Assad is bae.
Assad is bae tho.
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« Reply #947 on: June 16, 2019, 09:53:26 PM »

Joseph Stalin did very little wrong and was, all in all, an upstanding guy and great revolutionary.

Holodomor was fake.

DPRK, China, and Cuba are all viable examples of actually existing socialism that we should learn from and seek to emulate.

Russia is good and cool.

Maduro is bae.

Assad is bae.
Assad is bae tho.

This, the rest are terrible though.
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« Reply #948 on: June 16, 2019, 10:00:25 PM »

If they really cared about mental health then they would stop legitimizing gender dysphoria and other related illnesses as actual genders and such.
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« Reply #949 on: June 17, 2019, 08:56:00 AM »

Democracy and capitalism are headed for a divorce, and capitalism will be the winner. It deserves the win, too. Democratic ideals are founded on a false idea of equality that has no basis in reality. Any boob can see that differences between individuals are vast and contribute massively to a person's success (or lack thereof). The lie of equality is perpetuated only so that weak-willed people can feel that their own failures were not within their control. I'm not talking about the poor black kid in Compton who never had a lick of economic opportunity in his life here-- I'm talking about people like the ones I went to high school with. You know, entitled, spoiled bratty white kids with helicopter parents who bought them a Lexus for their fifteenth birthday, and who (despite having every possible advantage in life) burned their brains out with weed and ended up moving back in with mommy and daddy after college. They love the idea of everybody getting an equal share because they know they're not bringing anything to the potluck. Tell me that these people deserve a "Freedom Dividend" or even a vote, I dare you.

Voting is ridiculous. American democracy asserts that the subjective, ill-informed, bullsh**t opinion of some uneducated (sorry, "low-information") voter in Frog Balls, Arkansas is worth as much as the input of well-educated, civic-minded people like the ones on this forum. It's just absurd. Majority rule is a wretched, utilitarian way of governing a nation and it deserves to be cast into the dustbin of history. If 51 or 66 or 72 or 99 percent of the public shares the same opinion, that should not affect me one iota if I think they're wrong. They have no right to affect my life through the voting process just because we've all arbitrarily decided that "everybody's vote counts."

I have my own problems with capitalism, but at least it's meritocratic.
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