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DrScholl
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« on: March 04, 2023, 04:33:28 PM »

There are a lot of people who believe this, they just don't say it. Some of them are those who say these things aren't worthy of a thread.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2023, 06:35:21 PM »

Trans people aren’t an ethnic group and therefore can’t be genocided, according to the UN Definition of Genocide.

This is a frightening level of rationalization.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2023, 08:34:31 PM »

I'm buying a gun when I turn 18, I'm not going down unarmed

If you want any recommendations hit me up.

It seems like some of you want full on armed conflict.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2023, 12:04:52 PM »


Nope. You can't hide how revolting the modern right is by pushing it all into a mega thread so you can just ignore it.

I'll echo DaleCooper from the other day, if democrats moderated on social issues, they'd have a supermajority trifecta

Republicans: "Trans people need to be killed."

You: "Wow, Democrats really need to moderate on this issue."

Trans Activists: "If people don't get my pronouns right I need to violently correct them. Also give kids puberty blockers/hormones before they can make an informed decision and allow biological men to compete on women's sports teams"

You: "Wow, Democrat really need to be more aggressive on this issue."

Translation: you agree with what was said at CPAC.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2023, 03:49:14 PM »


Nope. You can't hide how revolting the modern right is by pushing it all into a mega thread so you can just ignore it.

I'll echo DaleCooper from the other day, if democrats moderated on social issues, they'd have a supermajority trifecta

Republicans: "Trans people need to be killed."

You: "Wow, Democrats really need to moderate on this issue."

Trans Activists: "If people don't get my pronouns right I need to violently correct them. Also give kids puberty blockers/hormones before they can make an informed decision and allow biological men to compete on women's sports teams"

You: "Wow, Democrat really need to be more aggressive on this issue."

Translation: you agree with what was said at CPAC.

The fact that you guys don't see any difference between "cancelling people for pronouns is bad" and "don't let biological men compete with biological women" and a call for genocide of an entire group by the homophobic Teletubby known as Michael Knowles is exactly why the trans rights movement has lost support.

Being angry because someone uses pronouns you don't understand is stupid because it doesn't effect your personal life, but it is different than calling genocide. Being ignorant of science on sports is not the same as calling for genocide. With that being said hate movements often start off with minor complaints and escalate into bigger things.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2023, 04:57:25 PM »

The spam argument doesn't hold water because the problem some people have with these posts is not that they are spam, it's that they are evidence that radicalism is real and that the anti-transgender crusade was never about parental rights or anything else seemingly reasonable.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2023, 05:05:50 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2023, 05:18:08 PM by DrScholl »

The spam argument doesn't hold water because the problem some people have with these posts is not that they are spam, it's that they are evidence that radicalism is real and that the anti-transgender crusade was never about parental rights or anything else seemingly reasonable.

The spam argument exists because it actually is spam. There is no evidence to support this idea that a "trans genocide" is happening, and there is no valuable discussion that results from the threads. It's just an excuse for some red or maroon av to falsely claim "trans genocide" with no proof and for a bunch of people to reply things like"omg Republicans are evil and have to be stopped" like it means anything.


I haven't seen anyone say it is actually happen, but it's clear that there are people proposing it (this person at CPAC). And not all the threads are about genocide, but are also about bills about banning transitioning and even removing children from the home.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2023, 05:21:12 PM »

The spam argument doesn't hold water because the problem some people have with these posts is not that they are spam, it's that they are evidence that radicalism is real and that the anti-transgender crusade was never about parental rights or anything else seemingly reasonable.

The spam argument exists because it actually is spam. There is no evidence to support this idea that a "trans genocide" is happening, and there is no valuable discussion that results from the threads. It's just an excuse for some red or maroon av to falsely claim "trans genocide" with no proof and for a bunch of people to reply things like"omg Republicans are evil and have to be stopped" like it means anything.


I haven't see anyone say it is actually happen, but it's clear that there are people proposing it (this person at CPAC). And not all the threads are about genocide, but are also about bills about banning transitioning and even removing children from the home.

If you even bothered to listen to what he actually said, he was referring to transgenderism (an ideology), not transgender people. He's clearly not even close to proposing genocide.

But of course like every other red/maroon av on this forum that frequently posts about trans issues, it's much easier to push your existing beliefs than actually listen to what is being said or reason what is actually being proposed from the source itself.

There's no such thing as transgenderism. It's just a word right-wingers made up to refer to all transgender people in a way where they can do exactly what you just did which is create a false narrative of talking about something separate.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2023, 11:55:53 AM »


Nope. You can't hide how revolting the modern right is by pushing it all into a mega thread so you can just ignore it.



Crazy comments by a YouTube commentator isn’t worthy of the individual thread. Besides the reason for the megathread is trans related threads make up an insane amount of discussion here while any thread on economic issues gets 5 posts at most .

Also the mods deleting the Alben thread on the whistleblower was horrific

I don't think these comments are crazy. I don't think most serious Republicans -- at a time when state legislatures across the country are taking action to prohibit transgenderist castration for minors -- do either. Unless you truly believe that, I would encourage you to not to concede the Overton Window framing here by labeling what many would consider perfectly reasonable comments as insane. That strategy is exactly what has allowed extremist transgenderism to gain such latitude in the first place.

Didn’t he call for the ban on adults gender affirming care as well cause that’s different then calling for a ban on minor gender affirming care . Anyway I support DeSantis and Youngkin’s policies on this issue but Knowles comments seemed to go way further than that .



The fact that your first reaction is a bunch of b-b-b-buts instead of simply condemning (or at least staying quiet about) this horrifying genocidal rhetoric, that your friends are endorsing in this thread, is a very grim conclusion of the right's social escalation the past few years. You've all lost the plot.

The only people ever saying anything about genocide are those who have been falsely claiming people they don't like are calling for it, with no evidence to support it.


Calling for the eradication of an entire group of people is genocide and trying to rationalize the statement is defending it.
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