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« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2020, 01:04:21 AM »

He even got a larger percentage of the popular vote than Ronald Reagan did in 1980!
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« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2020, 02:09:50 AM »

It's nice to see that even with all of the bogus claims of voter fraud and illegitimacy, Joe is able to experience a honeymoon period.

Maybe Biden voters would be more receptive to actual criticism of Biden and showing where Biden might be getting it wrong, rather than just being told that their votes are illegitimate.
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« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2020, 06:10:03 AM »

Biden fav: 59/39 (+20)
Harris fav: 54/42 (+12)

Biden approval on transition: 65/26 (+39)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-two-thirds-of-voters-feel-hopeful
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« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2020, 10:08:57 AM »



I'd be curious to see Trump's approval on the transition.
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« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2020, 08:27:14 PM »

I'd be curious to see Trump's approval on the transition.

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Dec. 13-15, 1500 adults

Biden (transition job approval):

Approve 52 (nc)
Disapprove 32 (nc)

Strongly approve 34 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 22 (+2)


Trump (transition job approval):

Approve 30 (-4)
Disapprove 60 (+5)

Strongly approve 19 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 47 (+4)


Trump (overall job approval):

Approve 42 (+2)
Disapprove 53 (+1)

Strongly approve 26 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 44 (+1)
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« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2020, 08:33:30 PM »

Ipsos Core Political Data (weekly), Dec. 11-14, 1336 adults including 1113 RV

Biden:

Adults:

Approve 53 (-3)
Disapprove 38 (+3)

Strongly approve 30 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 25 (+2)

RV:

Approve 56 (-1)
Disapprove 39 (+3)

Strongly approve 33 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 26 (+1)


Trump:

Adults:

Approve 41 (nc)
Disapprove 55 (nc)

Strongly approve 26 (+2)
Strongly disapprove 43 (nc)

RV:

Approve 42 (nc)
Disapprove 56 (nc)

Strongly approve 27 (+1)
Strongly disapprove 45 (nc)
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« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2020, 01:02:42 PM »

I'd be curious to see Trump's approval on the transition.

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Dec. 13-15, 1500 adults

Biden (transition job approval):

Approve 52 (nc)
Disapprove 32 (nc)

Strongly approve 34 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 22 (+2)


Trump (transition job approval):

Approve 30 (-4)
Disapprove 60 (+5)

Strongly approve 19 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 47 (+4)


Trump (overall job approval):

Approve 42 (+2)
Disapprove 53 (+1)

Strongly approve 26 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 44 (+1)


Those numbers seem way too good to be true.
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« Reply #82 on: December 17, 2020, 08:25:03 PM »

I'd be curious to see Trump's approval on the transition.

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Dec. 13-15, 1500 adults

Biden (transition job approval):

Approve 52 (nc)
Disapprove 32 (nc)

Strongly approve 34 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 22 (+2)


Trump (transition job approval):

Approve 30 (-4)
Disapprove 60 (+5)

Strongly approve 19 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 47 (+4)


Trump (overall job approval):

Approve 42 (+2)
Disapprove 53 (+1)

Strongly approve 26 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 44 (+1)


Those numbers seem way too good to be true.

I've come to learn that means they aren't.
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« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2020, 08:47:34 PM »

I'd be curious to see Trump's approval on the transition.

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Dec. 13-15, 1500 adults

Biden (transition job approval):

Approve 52 (nc)
Disapprove 32 (nc)

Strongly approve 34 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 22 (+2)


Trump (transition job approval):

Approve 30 (-4)
Disapprove 60 (+5)

Strongly approve 19 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 47 (+4)


Trump (overall job approval):

Approve 42 (+2)
Disapprove 53 (+1)

Strongly approve 26 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 44 (+1)


Those numbers seem way too good to be true.

I've come to learn that means they aren't.


Very sad. I really want people to give Biden a chance to make things better. Senate R's are most likely not going to help out Biden an inch.
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« Reply #84 on: December 19, 2020, 06:31:27 PM »

There is a problem with our Economy, the more people are on Unemployment, the more they want continued UBI benefits, and the problem is that there isn't gonna be enough vaccines to immunized everyone as people are gonna take off work due to sickness

That's why the stimulus hasn't been passed which Pelosi should of taken the 1.8T pricetag
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« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2020, 08:36:58 PM »

What happened to pbower2A
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« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2020, 09:26:35 PM »

Still here. Not much seems to be happening.  After all, it is what happens after the inauguration that really matters -- right? I remember going through some old newspapers from late in 1928, many of them showing unbridled optimism about the sure success in the Presidency of... Herbert Hoover. 
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« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2020, 12:13:56 AM »

Trump's approval is down to 39% in a new Gallup poll:

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« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2020, 10:46:44 AM »

Yes, he rarely talks about Covid and the Admiral said that there weren't enough vaccines ordered, people aren't dying, they are lingering in ICUs

.they need the vaccines but only nursing homes and health care workers get priorities of it
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« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2020, 05:13:41 PM »

Yep, also in that Gallup poll - 65% approve of Biden transition so far. Exact same # as Fox Poll.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/328106/public-mood-sours-satisfied-approve-trump.aspx
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« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2020, 08:16:24 PM »

Trump's approval is down to 39% in a new Gallup poll:



It's about time! I just hope this is actually an accurate reflection this time. I wish this was the case before the election though. Hell, you know what? 39% is still too high for this dangerous, sore loser to be approved by.
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« Reply #91 on: December 23, 2020, 10:21:34 AM »

In view of these high approval ratings for Joe Biden, I would conclude that Joe Biden has excellent political instincts and thinks things out well. He ran a very Reagan-like campaign despite having an  ideology very different from that of the Gipper. I think we will be saying "The adults are in charge again" within a few hours of his inauguration. That is how an effective Presidency starts.
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« Reply #92 on: December 23, 2020, 11:13:12 AM »

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Dec. 19-22, 1500 adults including 1157 RV

Biden (approval of transition):

Adults:

Approve 50 (-2)
Disapprove 35 (+3)

Strongly approve 32 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 22 (nc)

RV:

Approve 53 (-2)
Disapprove 37 (+1)

Strongly approve 37 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 24 (+2)


Trump (approval of transition):

Adults:

Approve 34 (+4)
Disapprove 55 (-5)

Strongly approve 19 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 43 (-4)

RV:

Approve 35 (+4)
Disapprove 58 (-4)

Strongly approve 21 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 47 (-3)


Trump (overall job approval):

Adults:

Approve 41 (-1)
Disapprove 51 (-2)

Strongly approve 27 (+1)
Strongly disapprove 40 (-4)

RV:

Approve 43 (-1)
Disapprove 52 (-1)

Strongly approve 30 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 43 (-4)
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« Reply #93 on: December 23, 2020, 11:18:47 AM »

Ipsos Core Political Data (weekly), Dec. 18-22, 1368 adults including 1126 RV

Biden:

Adults:

Approve 53 (nc)
Disapprove 37 (-1)

Strongly approve 29 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 24 (-1)

RV:

Approve 55 (-1)
Disapprove 38 (-1)

Strongly approve 32 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 26 (nc)


Trump:

Adults:

Approve 40 (-1)
Disapprove 55 (nc)

Strongly approve 24 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 43 (nc)

RV:

Approve 40 (-2)
Disapprove 57 (+1)

Strongly approve 26 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 45 (nc)
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« Reply #94 on: December 23, 2020, 07:07:33 PM »

After the first month, he will be lower than Trump, and he’ll always remain below 50%...

95% of Republicans don’t like Biden, and something like 60% of Dems only voted for Biden because they didn’t like Trump). Even more polarized nation. Added to the divided government, Biden has no chance of any sort of Unity.

His approvals will reflect all of this.
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« Reply #95 on: December 24, 2020, 07:15:52 AM »

After the first month, he will be lower than Trump, and he’ll always remain below 50%...

95% of Republicans don’t like Biden, and something like 60% of Dems only voted for Biden because they didn’t like Trump). Even more polarized nation. Added to the divided government, Biden has no chance of any sort of Unity.

His approvals will reflect all of this.

The honeymoon will be over quickly as President Biden makes some choices that he must make. The difference between him and Trump is that Biden starts at a higher level. 
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« Reply #96 on: December 24, 2020, 02:24:03 PM »

If Biden trys to govern like a wishy washy 90s democrat then he will be in the low 40s but if he actually makes a case for his presidency and works to engage with his base then maybe high 40s wont be too bad.

That being said, I dont think people in the Biden era will obsess over approval rating like they did in the Trump era
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« Reply #97 on: December 24, 2020, 02:56:58 PM »

I think Biden would be best positioned to just ride the fundamentals.
The post-Covid boom is going to begin worldwide over the next year, and I do think it will be a different era to what we are in now. Polarization will prevent any true “boom”-level approval ratings, but he should be able to hold on overall.
I doubt he will pas much policy, although I honest look question whether that will actually matter to the average American moron.
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« Reply #98 on: December 24, 2020, 05:02:24 PM »

If Biden trys to govern like a wishy washy 90s democrat then he will be in the low 40s but if he actually makes a case for his presidency and works to engage with his base then maybe high 40s wont be too bad.

That being said, I dont think people in the Biden era will obsess over approval rating like they did in the Trump era

He has much more room for error than did Donald Trump. The surest way to lose a re-election, other than outright incompetence is to buck a trend when first elected with that trend striking back. Carter may not have been a thoroughly awful President, but he was President when the Religious Right ballooned and quickly found him not Right enough.  Trump won despite demographic tendencies toward a more liberal political environment.

I remind you of what Nate Silver said of incumbents running for re-election: if their early support is 43.5% early in the electoral season (probably January or February) they have about a 50% chance of winning re-election with a competent and spirited campaign. This applies for both Parties and even in wave years. An exception is for appointed pols who never won the race to begin with and have yet to show that they could. A Tim Scott or a Tina Smith gets elected for the first time by having a campaign good enough for someone who won election the first time. Martha McSalley showed that she was not up to it.

Once legislating or governing an elected pol must make choices that will disappoint some of his voters. That's probably good enough to have an initial approval sink from 53 to 47 or so. That is not the end. One will need to campaign to get re-elected. Practically all politicians seeking re-election end up campaigning, as it is not mere habit or for the fun of it; it is necessary for getting re-elected.

Maybe it is not as simple as it seems. Still, Barack Obama got re-elected and Donald Trump didn't. Obama's weakest approval ratings were around 45%, which explains why he could get 51% of the popular vote in in 2012. Trump's approval ratings at a similar time were around 40%. That Obama seemed a better campaigner, less of a trouble-maker, a more coherent speaker, and a scandal-free administrator mattered less for getting re-elected for Obama than did starting the campaign season with about 5% stronger approval than that of Donald Trump.. who likewise parlayed about 40% approval into about 47% of the popular vote. 47% of the popular vote was enough to make the Electoral College fairly close, but it was not enough for a win of the Electoral College.

Obviously, performance matters, and so does some luck. Obviously most of us expect COVID-19 to exit the scene.,, and for some measure of economic rebound as people do again what they did before "Rona" started stalking us. Joe Biden seems to have good political instincts in contrast to Donald Trump, the current President having had no idea of how to be a politician at any level from city councilman to Governor, Senator, or Cabinet Secretary.           
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« Reply #99 on: December 24, 2020, 09:10:15 PM »

Trump Toupee and many Rs have been claiming this on the forum, many people will go from ICUs back to work when they get vaccinated and Trump didn't even order enough vaccines due to Trump letting his guard down on Covid and preparing for his relection.

Biden once we all get vaccinated will have 55% approvals.

Trump never had a 50% approval rating
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