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Question: Who will win the IL-03 dem primary?
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Dan Lipinski
 
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Marie Newman
 
#3
Charles Hughes
 
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Rush Darwish
 
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Total Voters: 109

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« Reply #125 on: March 17, 2020, 08:52:30 PM »

In news that I think all of us can appreciate, noted Neo-Nazi Arthur Jones is pulling only 11% in the Republican primary.

only one worse than marie newman

Oh stop. Roll Eyes

Youre a RINO.

1) Yes, and only because Ohio canceled its primary today. Thus depriving me of the opportunity to cast a ballot for Biden, and officially change my avatar back to red.

2) one need not be a r i n o, or indeed anything more than the most histrionic minority of Lipinski supporters, to claim that a literal neo-Nazi is the only worst candidate on the ballot than Newman. So I repeat: Roll Eyes
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« Reply #126 on: March 17, 2020, 08:52:30 PM »

News media should be careful when talking about Newman. She’s “progressive” in the sense that she’s a lot more liberal than Lipinski, but not “progressive” as in Berniecrat. She’s really just a generic Pelosi Democrat.

She is in the progressive wing of the party, though. She supports Medicare For All and the Green New Deal which is far more than can be said about Pelosi.

The appropriate take is that she is more from the Warren or Pressely mold - a candidate with an ideology to the left of the center of the party (which is definitely to the left of the nation) but she is not a 'pitchfork and torch' person like Omar.


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« Reply #127 on: March 17, 2020, 08:52:34 PM »

I miss daddy dan already, I cant even adequately put it into words

Then perhaps "Daddy Dan" shouldn't have been an anti-choice Congressman who thought voting against Obamacare was a good idea.

That’s why I liked him ffs
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« Reply #128 on: March 17, 2020, 08:54:16 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.
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« Reply #129 on: March 17, 2020, 08:55:07 PM »

Finally, something to celebrate!
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« Reply #130 on: March 17, 2020, 08:55:37 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


We certainly have no room in here for literal Republicans.
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« Reply #131 on: March 17, 2020, 08:55:55 PM »

I miss daddy dan already, I cant even adequately put it into words

Then perhaps "Daddy Dan" shouldn't have been an anti-choice Congressman who thought voting against Obamacare was a good idea.

That’s why I liked him ffs

So wait a minute. You and I both support Joe, who is staunchly pushing expansion of Obamacare to include the public option that the Republicans + Joe Lieberman stanched 10 years ago. Why would you support Biden if voting against Obamacare was so integral to your support of Lipinski? Genuinely confused.
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« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2020, 08:56:04 PM »

These Chicago margins blow. Its over.
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« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2020, 08:56:14 PM »

Lipinski is actually going to lose this. Wow. I can live with Sanders losing the primary, since it looks like Democrats in general are opening up to some of his ideas and not always going for the most “moderate” candidate (I realize Newman isn’t exactly Sanders’s twin, but still.)

I'm really surprised by this considering that Newman had to split the field with two other candidates who took nearly 10% of the anti Lipinski vote.

I'm wondering what caused Lipinski to drop so dramatically in support from the primary only two years ago. Happy to see it, but you wouldn't expect this type of largely blue-collar suburbs type of place to be subject to a ton of millennial influx or other demographic changes that could so change the results in only 2 years. Did he do something to screw up that's only known by the locals? Or did his inherited campaign apparatus just fall apart?

Apparently one of the other candidates played hard to one of the minority groups Lipinski did well with last time, so there go some of his 2018 votes. Also, there is a competitive GOP primary (and Trump is on the ballot so you gotta show your loyalty) so limited crossover voters like last time.
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« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2020, 08:56:58 PM »

Welp, the string of good results had to be broken eventually.
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« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2020, 08:57:55 PM »

Thank you team Warrren!



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If Texas didn't have voter suppression, he'd have been toast this year.
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« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2020, 08:57:57 PM »

In news that I think all of us can appreciate, noted Neo-Nazi Arthur Jones is pulling only 11% in the Republican primary.

only one worse than marie newman

Oh stop. Roll Eyes

Youre a RINO.

1) Yes, and only because Ohio canceled its primary today. Thus depriving me of the opportunity to cast a ballot for Biden, and officially change my avatar back to red.

2) one need not be a r i n o, or indeed anything more than the most histrionic minority of Lipinski supporters, to claim that a literal neo-Nazi is the only worst candidate on the ballot than Newman. So I repeat: Roll Eyes

That's the definition of a RINO.  Zip it.
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« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2020, 08:58:14 PM »

I miss daddy dan already, I cant even adequately put it into words

Then perhaps "Daddy Dan" shouldn't have been an anti-choice Congressman who thought voting against Obamacare was a good idea.

That’s why I liked him ffs

So wait a minute. You and I both support Joe, who is staunchly pushing expansion of Obamacare to include the public option that the Republicans + Joe Lieberman stanched 10 years ago. Why would you support Biden if voting against Obamacare was so integral to your support of Lipinski? Genuinely confused.

I’m only supporting Biden since he is the best choice out of the bunch, but he is much further to the left than I actually like.
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« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2020, 08:58:38 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


Lipinski would be a Republican if he was representing a tossup district. We have people like Tester, Manchin, and Peterson who are Democrats despite representing solid red states/districts. We ARE the big tent party.
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« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2020, 08:59:20 PM »

Lipinski is actually going to lose this. Wow. I can live with Sanders losing the primary, since it looks like Democrats in general are opening up to some of his ideas and not always going for the most “moderate” candidate (I realize Newman isn’t exactly Sanders’s twin, but still.)

I'm really surprised by this considering that Newman had to split the field with two other candidates who took nearly 10% of the anti Lipinski vote.

I'm wondering what caused Lipinski to drop so dramatically in support from the primary only two years ago. Happy to see it, but you wouldn't expect this type of largely blue-collar suburbs type of place to be subject to a ton of millennial influx or other demographic changes that could so change the results in only 2 years. Did he do something to screw up that's only known by the locals? Or did his inherited campaign apparatus just fall apart?

Apparently one of the other candidates played hard to one of the minority groups Lipinski did well with last time, so there go some of his 2018 votes. Also, there is a competitive GOP primary (and Trump is on the ballot so you gotta show your loyalty) so limited crossover voters like last time.

Rush Darwish, who made outreach to the Arab-American community a big part of his campaign. Obviously, we can't see the map but it wouldn't surprise me if he cut into Lipinski's support in those precincts.
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« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2020, 08:59:51 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


Lipinski would be a Republican if he was representing a tossup district. We have people like Tester, Manchin, and Peterson who are Democrats despite representing solid red states/districts. We ARE the big tent party.
You're calling him a Republican, as if pro-life people aren't welcomed.

You'd be kicking JBE to the curb if you had a magic wand.
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« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2020, 09:00:38 PM »

Thank you team Warrren!



If Bernie's team had Warren's understanding of how to build Congressional power, we'd have Cisneros there too.
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« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2020, 09:02:17 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


Lipinski would be a Republican if he was representing a tossup district. We have people like Tester, Manchin, and Peterson who are Democrats despite representing solid red states/districts. We ARE the big tent party.
You're calling him a Republican, as if pro-life people aren't welcomed.

You'd be kicking JBE to the curb if you had a magic wand.


No I wouldn’t, because he’s our best chance at holding statewide office in Louisiana. The people like JBE and Tester are Democrats despite the extreme partisan bias against their party. And even then, they all vote/govern like Democrats, with the exception of very few topics. They have principles.
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« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2020, 09:03:21 PM »

So, is it fair to say that even though Newman was endorsed by the Justice Dems, she's not really on their side?  It was more like Stacey Abrams getting endorsed by them?
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« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2020, 09:03:25 PM »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


Lipinski would be a Republican if he was representing a tossup district. We have people like Tester, Manchin, and Peterson who are Democrats despite representing solid red states/districts. We ARE the big tent party.
You're calling him a Republican, as if pro-life people aren't welcomed.

You'd be kicking JBE to the curb if you had a magic wand.


We don't need a ConservaDem in a district Clinton won by 15%,  enough said.
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« Reply #145 on: March 17, 2020, 09:04:37 PM »

68% in. Newman up 2.3 points.
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« Reply #146 on: March 17, 2020, 09:05:43 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2020, 09:12:43 PM by Badger »

So much for the Democrats being a Big Tent party.


Don't care how often I have to repeat myself on this. Yes, any candidate who is not only adamantly anti-choice, but a lead Point person in legislating against gay rights for years, votes against Obamacare, refuses to endorse Obama for re-election, is at best Centrist on most other economic issues, AND represents a safely Democratic District to boot, yeah, they're going to fly like a lead balloon and deservedly so.

Additionally, if Lapinski was representing a district in West Virginia, Idaho, or maybe even non Gary or Indianapolis Indiana, relatively few Democrats here would seriously give him much beef.

On a further note, how many Republicans can you point to who are as similarly left-of-center on as many issues that Lipinski is right-of-center on and representing a safely Republican District who is it getting primaried? Please, go on and show me the pro-choice, longtime Pro gay-marriage, pro-obamacare, and generally moderate to right of Center on most other issues Republican who refused to endorse Mitt Romney due to being to extremist, who is also representing an r + 8 District without getting primaried.

I'll wait.
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« Reply #147 on: March 17, 2020, 09:06:00 PM »

So, is it fair to say that even though Newman was endorsed by the Justice Dems, she's not really on their side?  It was more like Stacey Abrams getting endorsed by them?

Thereabouts. Endorsing Newman, I think, was a means to the end of being rid of Lipinski.
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« Reply #148 on: March 17, 2020, 09:06:05 PM »

Total: Newman 47.03% Lipinski 44.33% 68% reporting

Chicago: Lipinski 49.50% Newman 44.23% 74.38% reporting
Suburban Cook: Newman 48.04% Lipinski 42.13% 75% reporting
Will: Newman 51.99% Lipinski 39.74% EV, mail only
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« Reply #149 on: March 17, 2020, 09:06:25 PM »

So, is it fair to say that even though Newman was endorsed by the Justice Dems, she's not really on their side?  It was more like Stacey Abrams getting endorsed by them?


Yes, I agree with you. Newman is a generic democrat. She’s just the progressive choice when compared to the alternative.
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