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« Reply #125 on: February 10, 2020, 10:15:01 PM »

Sanders - 2
Klobuchar - 1
Buttigieg - 1
Trump - 1
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« Reply #126 on: February 10, 2020, 10:54:37 PM »

Since there was discussion about the geographic breakdown of results earlier:




These numbers would normally suggest a tight race, except Bernie is getting 50% in the west and north, aka the Connecticut river towns. Very possible that if the race is close that Bernie loses the first via racking up the score in the second.

These are entirely valid points, and this poll actually makes more sense geographically than the other recent poll which showed Bernie performing better in CD-01 than CD-02....

Let's look at results from a few of these Counties from the '16 Election Results and the '20 Poll number---

Hillsborough County--- 2016 DEM Primary Results

2016: 57% Sanders- 41% Clinton    (+16% Sanders)

Hillsborough County--- Boston Globe Poll
Buttigieg: 19 %
Warren: 16   %
Sanders: 15  %
Biden: 15     %
Klobuchar: 15  %
Other: 10%


Now granted it's only a small sample size for a poll of a County this large, but it appears to point to a roughly five person tie, with a slight edge to Pete....

There might well be some last minute tactical adjustments as voters might pick a 2nd string whom they also like, if they feel like their preferred candidate won't place.



So, as I surmised a few pages back the "lanes" aren't nearly as clear as they might seem to be. It's pretty obvious that not only are all of the '16 HRC voters spread throughout various other candidates (even possibly some for Bernie), and that many of the Bernie '16 voters are backing other candidates....

Now if we can assume that Bernie's best places in Hillsborough County will be the areas that he performed best in back in '16, West and North County smaller towns and rurals, this would appear to support my initial thoughts a few pages back on this thread.

Manchester--- Largest vote bank Bernie probably places within the top 2.
Nashua--- Pete/Warren
Bedford Town--- Heavily Pete/Warren
Merrimack Town- Pete/Warren
Hudson Town- Pete/Warren
GoffsTown- Bernie 1st
Amherst--- Heavily Pete/Warren
Hollis---Heavily Pete/Warren


Klob/Biden votes more even distributed between rurals/small towns and other towns that aren't part of the "Metro SE Hillsborough County Region".

Rockingham County 2016 DEM PRIM--- 55k Votes (22% of NH Vote Share)  + 15% Sanders

Rockingham County---Boston Globe Poll

Buttigieg: 25
Sanders: 19
Klobuchar: 16
Biden: 13
Warren: 12

It is perhaps not surprising that we see Pete performing better than in Hillsborough, since at least the data points we have from the 2020 IA Caucuses, show him performing extremely well within the wealthier suburban precincts around Des Moines.

Likewise Klob did pretty well in some of these same joints in IA.

Still Sanders is doing a couple notches better than in Hillsborough according to this poll, which might well be explained by the fact Rockingham is a bit more Republican than Hillsborough at a National Level, and that there are still significant concentrations of Democratic support within the County that might have slightly different political identities.

Look at the 2016 GE Township map of NH for example and we see HRC decisively beating Trump in the heavily Upper Middle-Class regions of Eastern Rockingham County in what are generally fairly WASP parts of the State.

Look at the 2016 DEM PRIM map of NH, and we see Bernie performing extremely well in the much more heavily non-WASP places of West County, with HRC doing much better than State averages within the WASP East County Townships....

Maybe I'm totally off base here (and will happily be corrected), but as I posted a few pages back Bernie won by 23% against HRC in the largest single DEM vote share Township of Derry, which is 27% Irish-American, 24% French / French-Canadian, 17% Italian-American, and 5% Polish-American in what is essentially a working-class / Middle-Class town in terms of MHI and educational attainment....

Obviously these marginal shifts within CD's could well impact delegate counts, so we will see what happens tomorrow...

idk....this might be one hell of a precinct map (Just like IA), especially if we got dramatic shifts from one precinct to another....


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« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2020, 10:59:26 PM »

One of these MSNBC pundits is presenting Grafton County as a three-way Bernie-Pete-Warren battleground. You can get away with saying anything as a pundit if you say it confidently enough.
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« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2020, 11:07:23 PM »

Looking out for something weird happening, like Gabbard winning. More realistically it will probably go to Bernie.
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« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2020, 11:14:10 PM »

Why did the Dixville Notch Presidential Primary results collapse so dramatically from 2008?

(17) people voted in Dixville Notch in the NH '08 Primary, and now we are down to (5) total voters in 2020?

Fraud I call.... is Russia now hacking our first early voting from NH.... Wink
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« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2020, 11:19:01 PM »

Why did the Dixville Notch Presidential Primary results collapse so dramatically from 2008?

(17) people voted in Dixville Notch in the NH '08 Primary, and now we are down to (5) total voters in 2020?

Fraud I call.... is Russia now hacking our first early voting from NH.... Wink

The hotel resort in town closed and has been in "renovations" - but I'm not sure whether that happened before or after 2008.
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« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2020, 11:20:04 PM »

Why did the Dixville Notch Presidential Primary results collapse so dramatically from 2008?

(17) people voted in Dixville Notch in the NH '08 Primary, and now we are down to (5) total voters in 2020?

Fraud I call.... is Russia now hacking our first early voting from NH.... Wink
There was a resort that closed for renovation that I believe caused mass population loss. The town was set to fall below five people which would’ve meant losing their own polling station and would result in having to combine with another town. However a fifth person moved in to allow them to continue their midnight voting tradition.
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« Reply #132 on: February 10, 2020, 11:33:28 PM »

Why did the Dixville Notch Presidential Primary results collapse so dramatically from 2008?

(17) people voted in Dixville Notch in the NH '08 Primary, and now we are down to (5) total voters in 2020?

Fraud I call.... is Russia now hacking our first early voting from NH.... Wink
There was a resort that closed for renovation that I believe caused mass population loss. The town was set to fall below five people which would’ve meant losing their own polling station and would result in having to combine with another town. However a fifth person moved in to allow them to continue their midnight voting tradition.

FFs to consider the "First Primary Votes" as an historical tradition which needs to be continued for us political-science junkies and the proud History of NH voting....

Remember reading Teddy White's book: "The Making of the President 1960" back in the late '80s when I first heard about the Dixville-Notch first contest during the '60 GE....

Obviously reading the subsequent Making of the President series through '72 it started to become a tradition in my mind, and loving it that it is still a Media Event (Despite being virtually meaningless statistically speaking).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Making_of_the_President_1960
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« Reply #133 on: February 10, 2020, 11:45:23 PM »

Why did the Dixville Notch Presidential Primary results collapse so dramatically from 2008?

(17) people voted in Dixville Notch in the NH '08 Primary, and now we are down to (5) total voters in 2020?

Fraud I call.... is Russia now hacking our first early voting from NH.... Wink

The hotel resort in town closed and has been in "renovations" - but I'm not sure whether that happened before or after 2008.

Wikipedia says it closed in 2011: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Balsams_Grand_Resort_Hotel
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« Reply #134 on: February 10, 2020, 11:57:06 PM »

Midnight voting start in ca. 3 minutes !

3 towns with ca. 40 people, 20 people and 5 people.
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« Reply #135 on: February 10, 2020, 11:58:46 PM »

Merged per request.
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« Reply #136 on: February 10, 2020, 11:59:13 PM »


Thx.

Is CNN showing the midnight voting now ?
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« Reply #137 on: February 11, 2020, 12:05:58 AM »

Election results coming in...all 5 votes. lol NH allows towns of under 100 to vote at midnight.
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« Reply #138 on: February 11, 2020, 12:07:32 AM »

One GOP vote for Bloomberg. LMAO!
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« Reply #139 on: February 11, 2020, 12:07:32 AM »

Lol, Bloomberg got a vote in the Republican primary.
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« Reply #140 on: February 11, 2020, 12:08:04 AM »

Dixville Notch results:

DEM:
Bloomberg 2
Sanders 1
Buttigieg 1

GOP:
Bloomberg 1
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« Reply #141 on: February 11, 2020, 12:12:02 AM »

Bloomberg now winning both party's primaries. LOL!
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« Reply #142 on: February 11, 2020, 12:12:43 AM »

Bloomberg somehow wins both dem and rep vote in DN


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« Reply #143 on: February 11, 2020, 12:13:04 AM »

This is hilarious.
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« Reply #144 on: February 11, 2020, 12:14:10 AM »

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« Reply #145 on: February 11, 2020, 12:14:56 AM »

Any word on Millsfield and Hart's Location ?
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« Reply #146 on: February 11, 2020, 12:15:05 AM »

Go Yang!!!!
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« Reply #147 on: February 11, 2020, 12:15:13 AM »

Klobuchar wins Hart's location
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« Reply #148 on: February 11, 2020, 12:15:24 AM »

Any word on Millsfield and Hart's Location ?

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« Reply #149 on: February 11, 2020, 12:17:41 AM »

Can someone please post the comprehensive combined results in both Primaries by Votes and Vote shares, which will naturally help us have a much better picture of the State of the NH Primary coming tomorrow?

Could run the numbers myself, but one of you is likely to have the numbers on your trigger finders.... Wink
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