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« Reply #1950 on: September 26, 2021, 04:10:00 PM »

Another flip:

194: Gera-Greiz-Altenburger Land (Thuringen)    CDU >AfD

Is this the first Afd pickup?
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« Reply #1951 on: September 26, 2021, 04:11:15 PM »

Another flip:

194: Gera-Greiz-Altenburger Land (Thuringen)    CDU >AfD

Is this the first Afd pickup?

No. Take a look at the map I posted some minutes ago.
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« Reply #1952 on: September 26, 2021, 04:12:46 PM »

Another flip:

194: Gera-Greiz-Altenburger Land (Thuringen)    CDU >AfD

Is this the first Afd pickup?

No. Take a look at the map I posted some minutes ago.

Got it--- color coding looks different on the map on the right for AfD so didn't catch that--- Thanks!
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« Reply #1953 on: September 26, 2021, 04:12:58 PM »

No. There have been 7 AFD pickups so far. All from CDU.
Meissen
Gera – Greiz – Altenburger Land
Gotha – Ilm-Kreis
Chemnitzer Umland – Erzgebirgskreis II
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Saalfeld-Rudolstadt – Saale-Holzland-Kreis – Saale-Orla-Kreis
Eisenach – Wartburgkreis – Unstrut-Hainich-Kreis
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« Reply #1954 on: September 26, 2021, 04:13:03 PM »

Another flip:

194: Gera-Greiz-Altenburger Land (Thuringen)    CDU >AfD

Is this the first Afd pickup?

Nope, every AfD seat outside of Saxony is a flip, and their gonna get 5 to 6 flips from the Union out of Saxony. Honestly surprised they aren't gonna get one from Brandenburg.
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« Reply #1955 on: September 26, 2021, 04:13:22 PM »

Any chance the free voters enter? Do they need to be at 5% nationally or in one state?

It is basically impossible. They would need 3 direct seats (which in practice would be in Bavaria), or 5% nationally, and they are not really close to either.

Like their Bavaria results are great, but it's a 1% average elsewhere. Seems like previous CSU voters parked their vote with FW since they needed another 'mainstream' right-wing party that wasn't with the Union - similar to the state election.

Great enough to actually win some list seats in Bavaria, or still sub-5% even there?
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« Reply #1956 on: September 26, 2021, 04:13:26 PM »

It’s actually quite surprising how close the SPD ran the Greens in Freiburg for the Direktmandat. Also interesting to see the Greens win the Zweitstimmen in Hannover II.
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« Reply #1957 on: September 26, 2021, 04:14:53 PM »


I would be very curious to see if a Red-Red-Green coalition might still end up being mathematically possible. From what I recall, the initial ARD exit poll had them 14 seats away from a majority, but here they would only be 4 seats short.

That's not to say that such a coalition would be practically possible, because even if they do end up with a majority it would be razor-thin, but any hypothetically workable SPD-Die Linke-Green alliance puts a lot more pressure on the FPD in coalition talks.
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« Reply #1958 on: September 26, 2021, 04:15:44 PM »

Any chance the free voters enter? Do they need to be at 5% nationally or in one state?

It is basically impossible. They would need 3 direct seats (which in practice would be in Bavaria), or 5% nationally, and they are not really close to either.

Like their Bavaria results are great, but it's a 1% average elsewhere. Seems like previous CSU voters parked their vote with FW since they needed another 'mainstream' right-wing party that wasn't with the Union - similar to the state election.

Great enough to actually win some list seats in Bavaria, or still sub-5% even there?

7 to 10% in the rural areas, which gives them no flips cause the CSU controls Bavaria and seats are awarded based on a parties federal voteshare. It's a great showing, but limited to a single portion of the overall results.
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« Reply #1959 on: September 26, 2021, 04:16:51 PM »

Stuttgart I, another Green gain from CDU. Cem Ozdemir wins a direct mandate. Outperformed the Zweitstime by 12%.
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« Reply #1960 on: September 26, 2021, 04:19:25 PM »

Stuttgart I, another Green gain from CDU. Cem Ozdemir wins a direct mandate. Outperformed the Zweitstime by 12%.

SPD interestingly wins the Stuttgart II list vote, but not because they gained any serious numbers of votes. More because the Union lost 5% of votes to the FDP from ballot 1 to 2.
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« Reply #1961 on: September 26, 2021, 04:19:57 PM »

Anyone else noticing the SPD doing better in Lower Saxony in terms of direct seats?
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« Reply #1962 on: September 26, 2021, 04:20:59 PM »

Anyone else noticing the SPD doing better in Lower Saxony?
I think, SPD doing better in their traditionally strong reagins in the north and west was largely expected.
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« Reply #1963 on: September 26, 2021, 04:21:12 PM »

More flips:

155: Meissen (Sachsen)    CDU > AfD
258: Stuttgart I (Baden Wurttemberg) CDU > Green (!!!)
219: Muchen Sud (Bayern)  CSU > Green
150: Markischer Kreis II (NRW)  SPD > CDU
72: Halle (Sachsen Anhalt) CDU > SPD
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« Reply #1964 on: September 26, 2021, 04:21:16 PM »





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« Reply #1965 on: September 26, 2021, 04:22:16 PM »

Anyone else noticing the SPD doing better in Lower Saxony?
I think, SPD doing better in their traditionally strong reagins in the north and west was largely expected.
Ah, that would make sense.
Getting 2002 vibes.
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« Reply #1966 on: September 26, 2021, 04:22:37 PM »

We have our first SPD->CDU flip of the night.
CDU general secretary Paul Zemiak wins Märkischer Kreis II.

CSU also loses their first direct mandate. München-Süd goes green.

Olaf Scholz wins Potsdam – Potsdam-Mittelmark II – Teltow-Fläming II with 34% of the vote way ahead of Annalena Baerbock with 18,8%.
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« Reply #1967 on: September 26, 2021, 04:24:10 PM »

Union flip Märkischer Kreis II direct mandate from SPD, probably one of the few they'll flip overall. SPD hold the list vote. CDU secretary Paul Ziemiak carries the day.
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« Reply #1968 on: September 26, 2021, 04:35:32 PM »

Looks like there is no possible coalition without FDP or CDU/CSU
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« Reply #1969 on: September 26, 2021, 04:35:58 PM »





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« Reply #1970 on: September 26, 2021, 04:38:43 PM »

SPD is on track to sweep all 52 municipalities in Saarland.
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« Reply #1971 on: September 26, 2021, 04:40:41 PM »

Currently walking home drunk with a currywurst, AMA
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« Reply #1972 on: September 26, 2021, 04:41:31 PM »

Currently walking home drunk with a currywurst, AMA
What was the mood like at the party you went to?
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« Reply #1973 on: September 26, 2021, 04:42:14 PM »



EuropeElects seat estimate. R2G short by 12, but Union definitely in second. Also probably the 1 from SSW, but we have no official data on S-H yet to judge.
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« Reply #1974 on: September 26, 2021, 04:45:23 PM »

Another CDU > SPD flip

103: Solingen-Remscheid- Wuppertal II   (NRW)  CDU > SPD (With again Greens gaining dramatically)
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