European Parliament Election: May 23-26, 2019

[afleitch]

A few thoughts on Scotland;

The SNP bested their GE2017 result, though on a relative basis they consolidated their vote in more deprived areas as Labour collapsed. They proportionately did worse in areas where they had a bad night in 2017 in part due to the Lib Dem 'readvance'; the SNP mopped up Green and SSP votes in 2007 to win then cannibalised the Lib Dems in 2011 to win bigger; some of those Lib Dem voters returned.

Brexit votes were correlated to Tory areas; there was little presence in the industrial areas in England/Wales where Brexit did well. The SNP being a bulkwark against 'plague on Labour' voting.

The Greens, relative to down south held steady. They won't be happy.

The Tories still put in their worst performamce ever in Scotland...but it wasn't as dire as England ; Tory areas in 2016 were proportionally more 'Remainy.'

Labour did much worse than predicted. There are legitimate concerns now to it's viability in Scotland.

[Tender Branson]

24/28 countries now have final or official results, while 4 have provisional results (Belgium, Hungary, Italy, Spain).

Provisional results: First results as presented by the Member State’s official election authority on the basis of a percentage of votes counted.

Final results: Results as published by the Member State’s official election authority after all of the votes have been counted.

Official results: Definitive results as proclaimed by the Member State’s official election authority and validated by the national legislative authority.

https://www.election-results.eu

[Antonio the Sixth]

And then it's also interesting looking at Vendée (the Southernmost department in the Pays de la Loire), which was traditionally the most conservative area in France and was De Villiers' fief, but now only the Fontenay-le-Comte (the historic capital of Vendée) area voted RN, the rest voted LREM. I guess Vendée is still conservative but it is wealthier and has less immigration than other regions and thus explains its current voting patterns.

Moreover the bougie-right parts of Paris and the Petite Couronne seem to have been LREM's strongest area in the whole country. Antonio's been talking to me a lot off-forum about Macronism's seduction of much of the traditional right's support base.

It's also interesting (and depressing) to see the concatenation of the post-industrial North and the right-rightist Riviera as RN's two strongest areas.

Yeah the thing is though that 10 years ago Philippe De Villiers was the Vendée council president (and I think he held that role for over 20 years, along with being one of the department's MPs/MEPs for a long time), and he endorsed Marine Le Pen at the last election so it's not exactly the same type of right you'd see in the parisian suburbs that used to dominate the Vendée. That's why it's interesting.

Villiers is a product of the old reactionary, quasi-monarchist and ultra-Catholic tradition of the Grand Ouest, of which Vendée was the epicenter. However, that tradition was already well on the decline 10 years ago, and it's not that surprising to see it dissolve completely into Macronism. Flamby already did shockingly well there in 2012, and Le Pen's scores have never been very strong. Villiers was more of a relic of an era that was already on its way out when he was around.

By contrast, the Western arrondissements of Paris have never flinched in their loyalty to the mainstream French right in literally a century, if not longer. To see them convert to Macronism is a far bigger shock, and something that should strike fear into the heart of whoever the next LR leader is.

[Tender Branson]

A comparison of the 2019 result and 2014 result by town:

[Ex-Assemblyman Steelers]

Did someone known the place where we can see all elected candidates?

[Tender Branson]

Did someone known the place where we can see all elected candidates?

Yes.

On the European Parliament website, after their 1st meeting in early July.

[Andrea]

Official portraits are starting to be uploaded, for those who already showed up in Strasburg/Bruxelles. They have 417 incoming MEPs so far

https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/official-portraits-of-meps-9th-parliamentary-term-starting-02-july-2019_12401_pk

[Ex-Assemblyman Steelers]

Thank you

[Andrea]

Volt MEP will join Green/EFA group after a vote of membership between Greens, ALDE or Non Inscrits.

[TheSaint250]

Currently projected EU group breakdowns according to Europe Elects (pre-Brexit/post-Brexit):

EPP: 183/187
S&D: 146/141
ALDE: 113/102
G/EFA: 78/72
ENF/EAPN: 73/77
ECR: 63/62
GUE/NGL: 41/40
NI: 10/9

Unaffiliated:
     Brexit Party: 29/0
     M5S + ŽZ: 15/15

Looks like EPP and ENF/EAPN will gain the most from Brexit in terms of seats. S&D, ALDE, G/EFA, ECR, GUE/NGL, and NI will lose seats, with ALDE suffering the most.

[Andrea]

The anwser is really easy. Some gruops loose all their MEPs from UK...

yes, just after writing, I remembered there are UK seats to subtract and i delated my question while you were answering it.

[Diouf]

Dombrovskis re-nominated

http://www.leta.lv/eng/home/important/1341592B-3353-3E94-065F-CA791AA9A646/

[Andrea]

ALDE is now Renew Europe.

Final composition of Greens/EFA is 75 MEPs. Full list: www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/news/newly-elected-greens-efa-meps/


Co-Presidents:

Philippe Lamberts (Ecolo, Belgium)
Ska Keller (Die Grunen, Germany)

First Vice-President:

Alyn Smith (SNP; UK)

Vice-Presidents:

Terry Reintke (Die Grunen, Germany)
Ernest Urtasun (Iniciativa per Catalunya Verds, Spain)
Gwendoline Delbos Corfield (Europe Ecologie, France)
Bas Eickhout (GroenLinks, Netherlands) * Also Treasurer
Alice Bah Kuhnke (Miljöpartiet de gröna, Sweden)
Molly Scott Cato (Greens, UK)


ENF becomes Identity and Democracy. 73 MEPs from 9 countries

President: Marco Zanni (Lega, Italy)
Vice Presidents: Nicolas Bay (FN, France) and Jörg Meuthen (AFD; Germany)

[bigic]

ENF becomes Identity and Democracy. 73 MEPs from 9 countries

President: Marco Zanni (Lega, Italy)
Vice Presidents: Nicolas Bay (FN, France) and Jörg Meuthen (AFD; Germany)

What about "European Alliance of Peoples and Nations"?

[Tender Branson]

The Austrian results were made official & certified today.

The following people have won seats in the next EU parliament:

Mag. Karoline Edtstadler - (ÖVP)
Dr. Othmar Karas - (ÖVP)
Mag. Dr. Angelika Winzig - (ÖVP)
Simone Schmiedtbauer - (ÖVP)
Mag. Lukas Mandl - (ÖVP)
Barbara Thaler - (ÖVP)
Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Bernhuber - (ÖVP)
Mag. Andreas Schieder - (SPÖ)
Mag. Evelyn Regner - (SPÖ)
Mag. Dr. Günther Sidl - (SPÖ)
Mag. Dr. Bettina Vollath - (SPÖ)
Hannes Heide - (SPÖ)
Harald Vilimsky - (FPÖ)
Heinz-Christian Strache - (FPÖ)
Mag. Dr. Georg Mayer, M.B.L. HSG - (FPÖ)
Mag. Werner Kogler - (GRÜNE)
Sarah Wiener - (GRÜNE)
Claudia Gamon - (NEOS)

Strache will apparently announce tomorrow if he'll take the seat.

[FredLindq]

Final composition of Greens/EFA is 75 MEPs. Full list: www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/news/newly-elected-greens-efa-meps/

Why not 78 as expected?!

Co-Presidents:

Philippe Lamberts (Ecolo, Belgium)
Ska Keller (Die Grunen, Germany)

First Vice-President:

Alyn Smith (SNP; UK)

Vice-Presidents:

Terry Reintke (Die Grunen, Germany)
Ernest Urtasun (Iniciativa per Catalunya Verds, Spain)
Gwendoline Delbos Corfield (Europe Ecologie, France)
Bas Eickhout (GroenLinks, Netherlands) * Also Treasurer
Alice Bah Kuhnke (Miljöpartiet de gröna, Sweden)
Molly Scott Cato (Greens, UK)


ENF becomes Identity and Democracy. 73 MEPs from 9 countries

President: Marco Zanni (Lega, Italy)
Vice Presidents: Nicolas Bay (FN, France) and Jörg Meuthen (AFD; Germany)



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[crals]

Why did Die Partei's 2 MEPs split?

[Tender Branson]

Strache is now officially being investigated for embezzlement and bribery by the Austrian corruption prosecution office.

https://derstandard.at/2000104818551/Laut-Profil-ermittelt-die-Korruptionsstaatsanwaltschaftgegen-Strache

Apparently, the meeting between Hofer and Strache is still ongoing about whether Strache should take his EU seat or not ...

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Why did Die Partei's 2 MEPs split?

Because Semsrott can accomplish more when being a member of a parliamentary group.

https://twitter.com/nicosemsrott/status/1135901134869147649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%...

"As a single MEP, you can accomplish little. As a member of the "realo" wing of DIE PARTEI I'm therefore accommodating the Green faction with me. Welcome, dear Greens!"

[Tender Branson]

Strache is now officially being investigated for embezzlement and bribery by the Austrian corruption prosecution office.

https://derstandard.at/2000104818551/Laut-Profil-ermittelt-die-Korruptionsstaatsanwaltschaftgegen-Strache

Apparently, the meeting between Hofer and Strache is still ongoing about whether Strache should take his EU seat or not ...

The Hofer-Strache meeting has ended and Strache has delayed his decision to Monday:

https://orf.at/stories/3126700

Hofer said: "I'm confident that he'll do the right thing."

PS: Yesterday, Strache had his 50th birthday. The FPÖ cancelled the big party they had planned for him for the occasion. Strache only invited the family instead.

If the FPÖ doesn't want him to take any office, he could go back to fixing teeth instead. Or collect unemployment/welfare checks at the AMS (Labour Market Agency).

[Former President tack50]

Vox has finally decided to join ECR and not ENF. That seems like a better fit for them I think, they aren't quite a Le Pen or Salvini I think.

https://twitter.com/voxnoticias_es/status/1139190365016264715

Fun fact, in their tweet they claimed that they got assurances that "all members of the ECR Group would respect Spain's territorial integrity". Which means one of two things:

1: N-VA will be kicked out of the ECR group (who would they join, EFDD maybe if it somehow survives?)

2: N-VA will stop supporting Puigdemont and the like. So they support Spain's territorial integrity but not Belgium's?

Then again, VB would be in ENF, so it's not like they would have much of a choice.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Why did Die Partei's 2 MEPs split?

Because Semsrott can accomplish more when being a member of a parliamentary group.

https://twitter.com/nicosemsrott/status/1135901134869147649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%...

"As a single MEP, you can accomplish little. As a member of the "realo" wing of DIE PARTEI I'm therefore accommodating the Green faction with me. Welcome, dear Greens!"

Which also means that Sonneborn - unlike Semsrott - doesn't want to accomplish anything. Sonneborn wants to continue his role as court jester which means he doesn't have to be a member of a parliamentary group... maybe it would even be detrimental to that goal.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Which also means that Sonneborn - unlike Semsrott - doesn't want to accomplish anything. Sonneborn wants to continue his role as court jester which means he doesn't have to be a member of a parliamentary group... maybe it would even be detrimental to that goal.

Correct. He just recently voted against a legal prohibition of conversion therapies cause he "wants" to impose the death penalty on the "therapists"...

I wish Serdar Somuncu would have run the second seat. He already fared very well in the former Ströbele constituency in the last federal election, and he would be a no-nonsense politician.

[xelas81]

Vox has finally decided to join ECR and not ENF. That seems like a better fit for them I think, they aren't quite a Le Pen or Salvini I think.

Fun fact, in their tweet they claimed that they got assurances that "all members of the ECR Group would respect Spain's territorial integrity". Which means one of two things:

1: N-VA will be kicked out of the ECR group (who would they join, EFDD maybe if it somehow survives?)

2: N-VA will stop supporting Puigdemont and the like. So they support Spain's territorial integrity but not Belgium's?

Then again, VB would be in ENF, so it's not like they would have much of a choice.

So, are Tories giving Gibraltar back to Spain or is VOX accepting that Gibraltar is part of UK?

[Former President tack50]

Vox has finally decided to join ECR and not ENF. That seems like a better fit for them I think, they aren't quite a Le Pen or Salvini I think.

Fun fact, in their tweet they claimed that they got assurances that "all members of the ECR Group would respect Spain's territorial integrity". Which means one of two things:

1: N-VA will be kicked out of the ECR group (who would they join, EFDD maybe if it somehow survives?)

2: N-VA will stop supporting Puigdemont and the like. So they support Spain's territorial integrity but not Belgium's?

Then again, VB would be in ENF, so it's not like they would have much of a choice.

So, are Tories giving Gibraltar back to Spain or is VOX accepting that Gibraltar is part of UK?

Fun fact: Vox's "2nd in command" Javier Ortega Smith actually deployed a huge Spanish flag in Gibraltar and then escaped the Gibraltar police by swimming across the bay back to Spain! (a 5km swim at the absolute minimum, and more realistically a 8.5 km one)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/681909/Gibraltar-Spain-dispute-police-arrest-man-flag-stunt

So I would not mess around with him! Actually I didn't know until now, but Vox does have "Get Gibtraltar back" as part of their platform! Not unexpected but still.