🇩🇪 German elections (federal & EU level)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

I suppose it's more of a possibility than an AfD-Green-SPD-Die Linke coalition (R2G1B1).

[Lechasseur]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

That would basically be the equivalent of the Chamber of Commerce party going into coalition with the Occupy Wall Street party

[Astatine]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

A Ribbentrop-Molotov coalition (Linke/AfD) would be more logical: Alice Weidel and Janine Wißler are both young intelligent women whose names start with W.
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[soundchaser]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

Do you think the FDP and Linke’s economic ideas are at all reconcilable? (Hint: they aren’t.)

[Battista Minola 1616]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

Listen, the first time you brought up this silly idea a few weeks ago (and showed your ignorance either as to what "libertarian socialism" means or to what kind of parties FDP and Die Linke are or likely both) we did not dogpile you just because. This is legitimately a very stupid take and it's seriously a bit sad that you did not use this time to learn more about German politics.

[Hnv1]

Looks like every updated projection gets better for the SPD. They've probably got this. FDP also going up, and Greens and AfD are going down.

Still no chance of an SPD-FDP-Linke coalition?

There never was one. FDP and Die Linke are just absolutely incompatible.

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

What? lawyers from Frankfurt and pensioners from Cottbus will join hands like it's a student election in some NH liberal arts college?  

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Lindner and Wissler both seem young, cool and full of new old ideas. Was hoping they could put together some kind of libertarian socialist coalition.

"Libertarian socialist coalition" sounds like "vegan pork sausage" or "half-pregnant".

[Farmlands]

Can people please not import their political ideologies into this thread please?

And if you’ve never taken an interest in German politics please, like me, come to this thread to learn, rather than make a fool of yourself.

It's pretty hard to discuss an election in arguably Europe's most influential country, without importing your political ideologies to it. And some people may not be fully up to par on the intricacies of German policies, but they know how the CDU reacted to the economic crisis, for instance, and that's enough to form an opinion.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What? lawyers from Frankfurt and pensioners from Cottbus will join hands like it's a student election in some NH liberal arts college?  

Hell of a mental image though, have to admit that much.

[Logical]

I am calling for a complete and total ban of American tourists entering the International Election board until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Can people please not import their political ideologies into this thread please?

And if you’ve never taken an interest in German politics please, like me, come to this thread to learn, rather than make a fool of yourself.

It's pretty hard to discuss an election in arguably Europe's most influential country, without importing your political ideologies to it. And some people may not be fully up to par on the intricacies of German policies, but they know how the CDU reacted to the economic crisis, for instance, and that's enough to form an opinion.

And there's also the fact that those who bemoan those who know less, also have the duty to educate.
If necessary, put it very simply.
All of us were once not very well informed about politics.

[The Mikado]

These are fun:

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442183678235451396

Under 30s.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442185519639707653

Over 60s.

[President Johnson]

SPD ahead 25.5 to 24.4 in ARD. So the gap increases.

[crals]

The stereotype of the elderly die Linke voter doesn't seem very accurate then...

[randomusername]

These are fun:

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442183678235451396

Under 30s.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442185519639707653

Over 60s.

Why would right-wing leaning under 30s move from the CDU/CSU to the FDP? Dislike of Laschet?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Mutti? Sorry. Mutti? Sorry. Mutti? Sorry.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Scenes if AfD end up on 88 seats

[Oryxslayer]

Updated ARD exit

24.7% Union 155+43 Seats
24.9% SPD 197 Seats
14.8% Green 117
11.3% AfD 89
11.2% FDP 88
5% Linke 40

24.7% Union 154+44 Seats
24.9% SPD 197 Seats
14.6% Green 115
11.7% FDP 92
11.1% AfD 88
5% Linke 39
x% SSW 1

25.2% SPD 200 Seats
24.6% Union 153+45 Seats
14.3% Green 113
11.6% FDP 92
10.8% AfD 86
5% Linke 40
x% SSW 1

Fixed

25.5% SPD 202 Seats
24.5% Union 152+45 Seats
13.8% Green 110
11.7% FDP 93
10.9% AfD 87
5% Linke 40
x% SSW 1

[Velasco]

What is the likelihood of  Grand Coalition 2.0 (post-Merkel and seemingly with a SPD chancellor)?

[Walmart_shopper]

These are fun:

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442183678235451396

Under 30s.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1442185519639707653

Over 60s.

Given Germany's demographic profile I think the outstanding thing here is that they were able to find voters under 30 to poll.

[Lechasseur]

What is the likelihood of  Grand Coalition 2.0 (post-Merkel and seemingly with a SPD chancellor)?

Slim imo

I don't think the CDU would agree to that

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

How would those between 30 and 60 vote? Roughly in line with average?

[Oryxslayer]

The stereotype of the elderly die Linke voter doesn't seem very accurate then...

Once was accurate, but it's been 30 years since the wall came down. There's a reason why Linke has gained in the west and collapses in the east, and it's not swing voters. Its generational replacement.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What is the likelihood of  Grand Coalition 2.0 (post-Merkel and seemingly with a SPD chancellor)?

Slim imo

I don't think the CDU would agree to that

The CDU would probably be unwilling to join a grand coalition it does not lead.
The SPD would definitely be unwilling to join a grand coalition it does not lead.
It's one of the less likely possibilities.

[brucejoel99]

What is the likelihood of  Grand Coalition 2.0 (post-Merkel and seemingly with a SPD chancellor)?

It only happens in the unlikely event that both traffic-light & Jamaica negotiations were to fail.