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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2021, 11:25:23 AM »

I’m calling it. NC will surpass GA in population.
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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2021, 11:26:45 AM »

I’m calling it. NC will surpass GA in population.

It’s not impossible.

They could also be within a few hundred people ... Wink
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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2021, 11:28:38 AM »

I'm making the prediction Florida will be bigger than expected (Expected Population: 21,673,328) because of improved outreach to people. I've seen it with my own eyes, this year it was way bigger and more expansive than it was 10 years ago, there were signs and flyers everywhere, and the census takers knocked on our door 5 different times even after we filled the form out online. The last census my family didn't even get counted, there was zero outreach. This maybe is just my neighborhood but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a common experience.

Yes, I strongly expect FL to overperform.  Absolutely no doubt it gains 2 seats.  The housing market there is on fire in a way that puts 2006 to shame. 
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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2021, 11:32:58 AM »

I'm making the prediction Florida will be bigger than expected (Expected Population: 21,673,328) because of improved outreach to people. I've seen it with my own eyes, this year it was way bigger and more expansive than it was 10 years ago, there were signs and flyers everywhere, and the census takers knocked on our door 5 different times even after we filled the form out online. The last census my family didn't even get counted, there was zero outreach. This maybe is just my neighborhood but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a common experience.

Yes, I strongly expect FL to overperform.  Absolutely no doubt it gains 2 seats.  The housing market there is on fire in a way that puts 2006 to shame. 

We are seeing the same thing in NC. Are at least in my area that I live in.
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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2021, 11:37:07 AM »

WA btw has seen a significant increase in self-response between the 2010 and 2020 counts.

Its population might break 8 million already, instead of the 7.7 million (estimate).
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« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2021, 12:02:22 PM »

Inner NOVA also tends to always beat its estimates, probably also due to super high civic engagement.  VA isn't close enough to the bubble for it to matter this time, but it could put the state back on track to pick up VA-12 in 2031.
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« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2021, 12:06:30 PM »

Inner NOVA also tends to always beat its estimates, probably also due to super high civic engagement.  VA isn't close enough to the bubble for it to matter this time, but it could put the state back on track to pick up VA-12 in 2031.
If its growth recovers, that is
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« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2021, 12:09:23 PM »

Also, I think there's an underrated possibility that the oil crash plus lack of state interest/investment in supporting the count keeps Texas at +2 instead of +3.
Can California avoid loosing a seat ?. The state has been doing suprisingly well in some respects with tax revenue.

Highly unlikely.  CA-53 is almost as far down the order of precedence as VA-12.  There would have to be 4 or 5 different surprises in other states for that to happen.  

TX-39, AL-07, NY-26, and MN-08 are all sitting right on the bubble.  

Minnesota keeping 08 would be crazy given how it was almost seen as an automatic at the start of the decade. But they've had strong growth late and Minnesota has the best civic engagement in the country.
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« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2021, 12:16:40 PM »

If there was an overcount in the range of the 335-336 million (instead of the 329 million estimate), it would be on the higher end of the „Demographic Analysis“ from the Census Bureau and would beat estimates by 2%.

A 2% overcount could lead to CA surpassing 40 million, TX 30 million, MI maybe above 10 million again, AL maybe above 5 and DE above 1 million.

But only if it’s uniform.
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« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2021, 12:25:04 PM »

A lot is riding on whether pandemic Sunbelt migration/WFH from vacation home was over or undercounted.  The later most people in an area responded, the more it would be accounted for.  College towns could also end up underpopulated vs. expectations.  In some states, it's a tradeoff between more more exposure to pandemic migration/resort WFH vs. more exposure to the commodities crash.  If you're Texas or Montana, I don't know which outcome you are hoping for...
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« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2021, 12:28:19 PM »

Random anecdote re: COVID migration. The official date of the census was April 1st, which for me, was well after my office closed and people started to go to wherever they were going to spend the work at home period. I was one of the very last to leave DC among my friends and I left on April 4th. Not sure how many of them took this into account when filling out their censuses, though.
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« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2021, 12:49:42 PM »

If you consider self-response rates as a good indicator for how much we can expect states to overperform or underperform, then Nevada is another prime target for overperforming.

Nevada tied with Washington state to experience the highest increase in self-response rate between 2010 and 2020, and went from 61.4% to 66.6% (+5.2%)

Michigan comes in third, with its self-response rate increasing by +3.6%, and Arizona and Colorado tie for fourth, with both of them having their self-response rates increase by +2.8%.

On the flipside, Montana had the worst decline, with its self-response rate going from 64.6% to 60.4% (-4.2%).

South Carolina (-3.7%), North Dakota (-3.6%), West Virginia (-2.9%), and Wyoming (-2.3%) all experienced collapses in self-response rates as well.

Among larger states, Texas was notable for its decrease in self-response rate as well.



Here's a full map where you can take a look at trends in self-reporting between 2010 and 2020:



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Hmmm... this looks really bad for MT-02 and fairly bad for TX-39, but pretty encouraging for AL-07, MN-08, and NY-26 and really great for C0-08, AZ-10, and OR-06.  And look, there's those extra 50K people in VA-10/11 again!
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« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2021, 12:59:42 PM »

There's an interactive map for relative self-response rates by tract:

https://cinycmaps.com/index.php/20-census/monthly-self-response-rate

But I'd caution everyone that self-response isn't everything. Non-response follow-up efforts and imputation matter, too.
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« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2021, 01:10:49 PM »

Less than an hour!!!!
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« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2021, 01:17:49 PM »

43 minutes pog
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« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2021, 01:40:18 PM »

Census' YouTube stream has started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZqLlOwUhE

No press conference yet. They're going through facts about data collection and the like.
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« Reply #66 on: April 26, 2021, 01:54:16 PM »

This is like Christmas.
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« Reply #67 on: April 26, 2021, 01:57:34 PM »

Here's my final guess for the US resident population:

332.854.397
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« Reply #68 on: April 26, 2021, 01:59:36 PM »

My guess: 331,490,532
Michigan: 10,023,748

*based on nothing
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« Reply #69 on: April 26, 2021, 02:00:44 PM »

I can't watch the live feed atm - Has it started?
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« Reply #70 on: April 26, 2021, 02:09:48 PM »

331,449,281

So close!!
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« Reply #71 on: April 26, 2021, 02:11:26 PM »

CA: 39,538,223
GA>NC
WY: 576,851



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« Reply #72 on: April 26, 2021, 02:11:57 PM »

Projected April 01, 2020 population for 50 states and District of Columbia: 329,197,157

Actual population: 331,449,281

My guess: 331,490,532
Michigan: 10,023,748

*based on nothing

Damn Ultraviolet!

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« Reply #73 on: April 26, 2021, 02:12:11 PM »

Here we gooooooo
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« Reply #74 on: April 26, 2021, 02:12:13 PM »

GA remains ahead of NC.
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