2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[Harlow]

Shameless.

https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1756848309157654656?s=20

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Shameless.

https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1756848309157654656?s=20

This is great!!!

[Harlow]

https://twitter.com/CaelemSG/status/1756854141660561460?s=20

[Bandit3 the Worker]

https://twitter.com/CaelemSG/status/1756854141660561460?s=20

That was probably intentional.

[Open Source Intelligence]

https://www.semafor.com/article/02/09/2024/libertarians-could-supercharge-rfk-jrs-campaign-but-can-he-prove-hes-one-of-them

Good article by Weigel about RFK reaching out to the Libertarians and the question as to whether the Libertarians, who have become increasingly hardline over the last 8 and especially 4 years, are interested.

If RFK Jr gets the Libertarian line, he could probably make 49 or even 50 state ballots (New York State's ballot access threshold is super high, so that's the one I left as a question). Without the Libertarian line, he'll be lucky to get in the 30s of states, with some, including several of the largest states like CA, TX, and NY being basically extreme longshots.

That said, if he does take the Libertarian line, he may well be stuck with some rando as his running mate and they may force him to change some views to meet their litmus tests to get the nomination. It's going to be hard for a career environmental lawyer to win over activists of a party that doesn't think that environmental law should be a thing.

If the Mises Caucus nominate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President, they will do nothing other than demonstrate they are hypocrites of the nth degree considering how the nomination of Bill Weld for VP was inexcusable to most of them.

I don't expect RFK Jr. as nominee. He'd probably rather it handed to him instead of going through the process of a delegate race and then potentially losing.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

A third party candidate who's struggling with ballot access blowing $7,000,000 on a Super Bowl spot has the same energy as an NFT scam project buying advertising space in Times Square to "prove" that they're legit.

[Open Source Intelligence]

this is the latest ballot access for the green party/jill stein. the yellow states' window for petitioning hasnt opened yet. oklahoma is the infamously difficult state requiring either 35k signatures or a $35k filing fee. jill is also slowly but surely on her way to matching funds (she needs $5,000 in small donations from 20 states; she has met that in 6 states already and the next 13 are all over $2,500)

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1756086568589148345

Her map only shows 19 states + DC with ballot access, not 20 as she claims ...

All the political parties once you get past stating the District of Columbia consider it a state. If you read the Democrats' and Republicans' national party bylaws, once they define D.C. and the territories, they are considered states throughout the rest of the documents for the sake of brevity.

[Redban]

https://twitter.com/Holden_Culotta/status/1757122313328153081

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Silly, he has no chance of winning, we don't need GA

[PSOL]

Libertarian dissidents coming together

Democrats trying to remove people’s choices by looking to remove the LMN party under bogus pretenses

[AltWorlder]

That's cool that U.S. is finally following the rest of world and having a (classical) Liberal Party, but methinks those disgruntled Libertarians are going to have issues in NY.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://twitter.com/Holden_Culotta/status/1757122313328153081

That's not "officially". It's only official once Georgia certifies that enough are valid. Based on these numbers that's possible but not a sure thing yet.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Reason article discussing 3rd party candidates and their ballot access efforts:
https://reason.com/2024/02/02/presidential-ballot-will-be-crowded-with-third-party-candidates/

Richard Winger, for one, thinks that 50-state access for Kennedy is achievable, given the way the campaign has approached the problem to date, including having volunteers petition outside polling places during the New Hampshire primaries and exceeding the needed 3,000 signatures. "I think he can probably do it," Winger says. "I was impressed that he got on in New Hampshire in one day."

The two biggest ballot roadblocks for non-Democratic/Republican presidential candidates are in two of the country's three largest progressive-run states: New York and Illinois. "There are the two problem-child states right now," the L.P.'s McArdle says.

New York in 2019 moved up its petitioning deadline from August to May, then in 2020 jacked up the threshold for third parties to maintain their ballot status from 50,000 votes in the previous gubernatorial or presidential election to 130,000, or 2 percent of the vote. The upshot? "We only have six weeks to gather 45,000 verified signatures," says Green Party Ballot Access Committee Co-Chair Tony Ndege. "So that means we're really going to have to shoot for over 60,000, really close to the 70,000. And that's a really tall order. Very few parties, and almost no one without millions of dollars, have been able to achieve that."

Ndege, like many people who work in these trenches, expresses something close to wonder when talking about the volume of challenges. "It's just insane," he said. "You can spend four years studying it, nothing but that, and it's still very difficult, and it always changes too, because that's how politics works." Yet he's bullish for the Greens this year. "We're definitely far ahead of where we were in 2020," he says, predicting that the party will "absolutely" clear that election's 30 ballot-qualified states, and is pushing toward the goal of matching 2016's 45.

[MichaelM24]

The undemocratic nature of the Democratic Party is always a delight to see, exactly when they beg me for my votes. 

[Redban]

Nikki Haley has been approved for secret service protection, but RFK Jr’s application is still pending (he’s filed about 3-4 times to ask for protection)

https://twitter.com/greta/status/1758629418266751300

[wbrocks67]

Looks like RFK will not be getting Libertarian nomination, which would raise his threshold in most states to get on the ballot as an Indy.

https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/1758282940059176965?s=20

[Birdish]

Nikki Haley has been approved for secret service protection, but RFK Jr’s application is still pending (he’s filed about 3-4 times to ask for protection)

https://twitter.com/greta/status/1758629418266751300

"an advisory panel made up of Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and the Senate Sergeant at Arms recommended that Haley get Secret Service detail"

Shouldn't he be discussing that with them and not blaming Mayorkas.

[AltWorlder]

Looks like RFK will not be getting Libertarian nomination, which would raise his threshold in most states to get on the ballot as an Indy.

RFK entryist coup of No Labels would be the funniest thing. Or even funnier would be if he bamboozles their milquetoast boomer centrist moderate minds into endorsing him as the cross-party unity candidate.

No Labels out of all political movements getting captured by an fringe demagogue would be very befitting for the times.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Cornell West is following RFK's lead and is launching the Justice for All Party.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Cornell West is following RFK's lead and is launching the Justice for All Party.

It's a purely ballot access ploy. It's easier in some states for a party to get ballot access instead of an independent, even if the party has nothing inside it beyond its presidential figurehead.

[ReallySuper]

the free & equal debate was supposed to have six candidates, but they expanded it to seven to include rfk jr, who got eighth in the public voting, behind peter sonski of the american solidarity party (who has not been invited)

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

NoLabels now with ballot access in 16 states:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/18/no-labels-joe-manchin-campaign-00142069

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

NoLabels now with ballot access in 16 states:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/18/no-labels-joe-manchin-campaign-00142069

They are also on the ballot in Montana now, so it's 17:

https://dailymontanan.com/briefs/montana-certifies-no-labels-party-for-2024-election/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_access_in_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[AltWorlder]

peter sonski of the american solidarity party (who has not been invited)

BOYCOTT

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I am so glad Manchin doesn't run third party