2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[Unbeatable Titan Susan Collins]

RFK to announce VP choice on March 26th in Oakland, California.

I don't see Aaron Rodgers being the choice if you're going to announce in Oakland, so that eliminates him.

Probably correct but i don't see who he would pick that would be from/ related to Oakland.

Rodgers did grow up in and play college football in California (although not in Oakland)

[wbrocks67]

So RFK's PAC has essentially gone silent now - are the signatures that the PAC got now unable to be used? If that's the case, it sounds dubious that he's going to be on a lot of these ballots

https://twitter.com/rudnicknoah/status/1768247843876188169?s=20

[Compuzled_One]

So RFK's PAC has essentially gone silent now - are the signatures that the PAC got now unable to be used? If that's the case, it sounds dubious that he's going to be on a lot of these ballots

https://twitter.com/rudnicknoah/status/1768247843876188169?s=20

The PAC was only to get on the ballot in certain states I believe. Also, I doubt there'd be that many faulty signatures.

[Compuzled_One]

I also do have to say, if he really did collect 100,000 signatures in Arizona, I do feel his chances of getting on the ballot everywhere are very good, especially since party registration for states like California sounds easy. He can easily pay to be in Oklahoma, so the only issue is Texas.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

Recall that the Libertarians were polling as high as 15% once the nominations were clinched in 2016, too - while RFK Jr is far more well known than Johnson was at this point, he's also at least as crazy, if not more so. I'd take the over on him getting 5% in the general, for sure, but it's a tough road ahead to be anything other than a spoiler.

John Anderson (who I was a volunteer for) was polling as high as 25% in some polls in the middle of 1980.  He ended up with under 7%.

It happens in every presidential election. RedBan is supporting RFK as delusionally as he once supported Trump.

Johnson 2016, Stein 2016, the abortive NeverTrump candidacy that became Evan McMullin's "run", AmericansElect, the Reform Party in 2000 and 1996, Ross Perot in 1992, etc, etc, etc. They all come in well below their peaks by election day, with perhaps the exception of Perot 1996.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

Recall that the Libertarians were polling as high as 15% once the nominations were clinched in 2016, too - while RFK Jr is far more well known than Johnson was at this point, he's also at least as crazy, if not more so. I'd take the over on him getting 5% in the general, for sure, but it's a tough road ahead to be anything other than a spoiler.

John Anderson (who I was a volunteer for) was polling as high as 25% in some polls in the middle of 1980.  He ended up with under 7%.

It happens in every presidential election. RedBan is supporting RFK as delusionally as he once supported Trump.

Johnson 2016, Stein 2016, the abortive NeverTrump candidacy that became Evan McMullin's "run", AmericansElect, the Reform Party in 2000 and 1996, Ross Perot in 1992, etc, etc, etc. They all come in well below their peaks by election day, with perhaps the exception of Perot 1996.

My only quibble there is that Perot shot himself in the foot in 1992 by dropping out and then getting back in. He did lead some polling before he dropped out. Makes you wonder what would’ve happened if he didn’t drop out.

[SteveRogers]

Recall that the Libertarians were polling as high as 15% once the nominations were clinched in 2016, too - while RFK Jr is far more well known than Johnson was at this point, he's also at least as crazy, if not more so. I'd take the over on him getting 5% in the general, for sure, but it's a tough road ahead to be anything other than a spoiler.

John Anderson (who I was a volunteer for) was polling as high as 25% in some polls in the middle of 1980.  He ended up with under 7%.

It happens in every presidential election. RedBan is supporting RFK as delusionally as he once supported Trump.

Johnson 2016, Stein 2016, the abortive NeverTrump candidacy that became Evan McMullin's "run", AmericansElect, the Reform Party in 2000 and 1996, Ross Perot in 1992, etc, etc, etc. They all come in well below their peaks by election day, with perhaps the exception of Perot 1996.

My only quibble there is that Perot shot himself in the foot in 1992 by dropping out and then getting back in. He did lead some polling before he dropped out. Makes you wonder what would’ve happened if he didn’t drop out.

Eh, Perot peaked in the polls in June of ‘92 (indeed leading in several major polls), but his support was already on the decline by the time he “dropped out,” especially as Democratic support began rallying around Clinton. Perot’s “withdrawal” from the race in July was really a strategic retreat after taking a beating in the press. He was still running a shadow campaign and pouring millions into achieving ballot access during those idle months before he officially re-entered the race.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The Socialist Equality Party is a CIA op.

[AltWorlder]

Here's an interview with the different Socialist Party of America

https://twitter.com/ShortBusDebate/status/1768415057342296328

[PSOL]

The Socialist Equality Party is a CIA op.

Honestly their copyright litigation and toxic inner politics don’t look good, but if you read WSWS you would see that they are 100% legit. The SEP began as a left wing split of the SWP, which has been a far right organization for more than half a century.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

https://themilitant.com/2024/02/24/vote-socialist-workers-party-2/

SWP nominates pro-Israel ticket.

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1769083032223256919

[PSOL]

https://themilitant.com/2024/02/24/vote-socialist-workers-party-2/

SWP nominates pro-Israel ticket.

They oppose gay rights and racial justice, they screeched at meToo and when the Malhuer nuts were apprehended, they want the yellow Don to win to bring this nation back to putting women in their place.

Anyway, about other revisionists, the main organizer on the COFOE board for Independent Voting/NAP has died. The New Alliance Party was famous for being involved in the Reform party and getting Michael Bloomberg elected multiple times to advance their own organizations against progressive Democratic and WFP candidates.

[The Mikado]

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1769083032223256919

Ex-wife of Sergey Brin (who cheated on him with Elon Musk). Wildly wealthy and could likely self-fund an RFK Jr campaign.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Bobby’s VP is a babe!

[Compuzled_One]

Honestly, a surprising choice, but this is pretty alright all things considered. Only problem is that she isn't attention grabbing.

[Compuzled_One]

Okay, apparently, his campaign manager kinda denied this (and Rodgers).
https://twitter.com/amaryllisfox/status/1769133642440389042

[Redban]

She’s considered a progressive Californian who donated many dollars to Biden 2020. Now flipping to RFK Jr.

Bad news for the Biden stooges who are straining to characterize RFK jr as Rand Paul’s carbon copy just cause of “anti-vaccines!!” .. RFK Jr’s political leanings, as a whole, lean more left than right

[Tekken_Guy]

She’s considered a progressive Californian who donated many dollars to Biden 2020. Now flipping to RFK Jr.

Bad news for the Biden stooges who are straining to characterize RFK jr as Rand Paul’s carbon copy just cause of “anti-vaccines!!” .. RFK Jr’s political leanings, as a whole, lean more left than right

Good news for Biden is that virtually nobody knows who she is and will be voting for the ticket solely because for her.

[Redban]

She’s considered a progressive Californian who donated many dollars to Biden 2020. Now flipping to RFK Jr.

Bad news for the Biden stooges who are straining to characterize RFK jr as Rand Paul’s carbon copy just cause of “anti-vaccines!!” .. RFK Jr’s political leanings, as a whole, lean more left than right

Good news for Biden is that virtually nobody knows who she is and will be voting for the ticket solely because for her.

so nobody  knows who she is right now. Does that mean nobody will know who she is in November (and will consider her presence on the ticket as RFK Jr’s running mate)?

I’m pretty sure there are several months until November; and she will give interviews and speeches all over the circuit to get her name out there

[Tekken_Guy]

She’s considered a progressive Californian who donated many dollars to Biden 2020. Now flipping to RFK Jr.

Bad news for the Biden stooges who are straining to characterize RFK jr as Rand Paul’s carbon copy just cause of “anti-vaccines!!” .. RFK Jr’s political leanings, as a whole, lean more left than right

Good news for Biden is that virtually nobody knows who she is and will be voting for the ticket solely because for her.

so nobody  knows who she is right now. Does that mean nobody will know who she is in November (and will consider her presence on the ticket as RFK Jr’s running mate)?

I’m pretty sure there are several months until November; and she will give interviews and speeches all over the circuit to get her name out there

Nobody pays attention to third party running mates. Who remembers who Ross Perot’s running mate was, or Ralph Nader’s, or Gary Johnson’s?

[Flyersfan232]

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1769083032223256919

nice

[AltWorlder]

Who remembers who Ross Perot’s running mate was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKpX-5jQjQ0

[xavier110]

It’s no surprise that the spookiest campaign of the season may tap a person knee deep in tech and state secrets after allegedly boinking two of the wealthiest men in the world

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

She’s considered a progressive Californian who donated many dollars to Biden 2020. Now flipping to RFK Jr.

Bad news for the Biden stooges who are straining to characterize RFK jr as Rand Paul’s carbon copy just cause of “anti-vaccines!!” .. RFK Jr’s political leanings, as a whole, lean more left than right

Good news for Biden is that virtually nobody knows who she is and will be voting for the ticket solely because for her.

so nobody  knows who she is right now. Does that mean nobody will know who she is in November (and will consider her presence on the ticket as RFK Jr’s running mate)?

I’m pretty sure there are several months until November; and she will give interviews and speeches all over the circuit to get her name out there

Nobody pays attention to third party running mates. Who remembers who Ross Perot’s running mate was, or Ralph Nader’s, or Gary Johnson’s?

I mean, people definitely remember Stockdale. Winona LaDuke, even though she went on to get electoral votes, and Jim Gray, are pretty irrelevant. Ditto for Weld. You could make the same argument about Stein's running mates in 2012 and 2016.