DC Unrest Megathread

[GeorgiaModerate]

ABC News/Ipsos poll, Jan. 8-9, 570 adults

The question is "How much do you trust each of the following to protect democracy in the United States?" 

Donald Trump:

A great deal 16%
A good amount 14
Not so much 13
Not at all 56
Net: 30% trust (sum of first two categories), 69% distrust (sum of last two)

Joe Biden:

A great deal 26
A good amount 27
Not so much 17
Not at all 28
Net: 53/45

Mike Pence:

A great deal 15
A good amount 24
Not so much 35
Not at all 23
Net: 39/58

Republicans in Congress:

A great deal 9
A good amount 23
Not so much 39
Not at all 29
Net: 31/68

Democrats in Congress:

A great deal 17
A good amount 23
Not so much 17
Not at all 40
Net: 40/58

Nancy Pelosi:

A great deal 17
A good amount 23
Not so much 17
Not at all 40
Net: 40/58

Ted Cruz:

A great deal 10
A good amount 17
Not so much 25
Not at all 47
Net: 27/71

Mitt Romney:

A great deal 11
A good amount 30
Not so much 34
Not at all 22
Net: 41/56

Supreme Court:

A great deal 15
A good amount 44
Not so much 30
Not at all 9
Net: 60/38

Mitch McConnell:

A great deal 5
A good amount 18
Not so much 38
Not at all 37
Net: 22/75

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1348305163107364864

[tjstarling]

ABC News/Ipsos poll, Jan. 8-9, 570 adults

The question is "How much do you trust each of the following to protect democracy in the United States?" 

Donald Trump:

A great deal 16%
A good amount 14
Not so much 13
Not at all 56
Net: 30% trust (sum of first two categories), 69% distrust (sum of last two)

Joe Biden:

A great deal 26
A good amount 27
Not so much 17
Not at all 28
Net: 53/45

Mike Pence:

A great deal 15
A good amount 24
Not so much 35
Not at all 23
Net: 39/58

Republicans in Congress:

A great deal 9
A good amount 23
Not so much 39
Not at all 29
Net: 31/68

Democrats in Congress:

A great deal 17
A good amount 23
Not so much 17
Not at all 40
Net: 40/58

Nancy Pelosi:

A great deal 17
A good amount 23
Not so much 17
Not at all 40
Net: 40/58

Ted Cruz:

A great deal 10
A good amount 17
Not so much 25
Not at all 47
Net: 27/71

Mitt Romney:

A great deal 11
A good amount 30
Not so much 34
Not at all 22
Net: 41/56

Supreme Court:

A great deal 15
A good amount 44
Not so much 30
Not at all 9
Net: 60/38

Mitch McConnell:

A great deal 5
A good amount 18
Not so much 38
Not at all 37
Net: 22/75

Those are, unsurprising, but bad numbers for everyone tbh

[MillennialModerate]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

What an utterly ridiculous post. To equate the type systematic oppression that African Americans had/have to face in this country verses a bunch of people being butthurt over losing an election is unbelievably condescending to the struggles and actual oppression people in this country have had to face and still face today. To even draw a similarity to an actual struggle for being heard verses the political equivalent of a child throwing a temper tantrum because they didn’t get the toy they want is unbelievable offense and is a real mask off moment for you

[Storebought]

So the most trusted institution is the one least accountable to voters, namely the Supreme Court. Biden will not have a honeymoon, and Democrats in Congress are disliked more, with more intensity, than Republicans in Congress.

Biden/Harris will be impeached as soon as the GOP takes control of the House, and removed if they win enough seats in the Senate.

[Gass3268]

So the most trusted institution is the one least accountable to voters, namely the Supreme Court. Biden will not have a honeymoon, and Democrats in Congress are disliked more, with more intensity, than Republicans in Congress.

Biden/Harris will be impeached as soon as the GOP takes control of the House, and removed if they win enough seats in the Senate.

There is a 0% chance that Republicans win 17 Senate Seats.

[Storebought]

So the most trusted institution is the one least accountable to voters, namely the Supreme Court. Biden will not have a honeymoon, and Democrats in Congress are disliked more, with more intensity, than Republicans in Congress.

Biden/Harris will be impeached as soon as the GOP takes control of the House, and removed if they win enough seats in the Senate.

There is a 0% chance that Republicans win 17 Senate Seats.

If this poll is accurate, then we can look forward to a sequence of 2010/2014 congressional elections even if Biden/Harris wins reelection, since Biden is kinda-well-liked.

[It's Perro Sanxe wot won it]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

Funny how online conservatives tend to put a quote (preferably a deliberately misinterpreted one from a left-wing figure) instead of an argument and call it a day. Like that Peter Hitchens quote about opinion polls which always shows up when they see a poll they don’t like.

[Asta]

https://twitter.com/njdotcom/status/1348271336288899073?s=20

[GP270watch]

https://twitter.com/njdotcom/status/1348271336288899073?s=20

 Nice!

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Trump vs. the tech conglomerates has always been a "whoever loses, we win" situation, so it's beautiful to see him leaving office with both of them inflicting genuine, potentially serious damage on each other. The pardons thing and the Alamo thing are much more concerning, though.

[Storebought]

Sen Roy Blunt: Trump "learned his lesson", shouldn't resign

Remember when Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) explained away her decision to acquit President Donald Trump of impeachment last year because, in her opinion, “the president has learned from this case?”

Well, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) gave us the sequel to that hopelessly naive notion on Sunday morning.

....

“I think the country is the right way to hold presidents accountable,” he said. “The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you would expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world.”

“My personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again,” the senator continued. “And if that’s the case, we get—every day we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency.”

[NYSforKennedy2024]

An officer who worked at the Capitol during the riot has committed suicide:

https://www.thewrap.com/capitol-officer-dies-suicide/

[Calthrina950]

Sen Roy Blunt: Trump "learned his lesson", shouldn't resign

Remember when Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) explained away her decision to acquit President Donald Trump of impeachment last year because, in her opinion, “the president has learned from this case?”

Well, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) gave us the sequel to that hopelessly naive notion on Sunday morning.

....

“I think the country is the right way to hold presidents accountable,” he said. “The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you would expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world.”

“My personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again,” the senator continued. “And if that’s the case, we get—every day we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency.”

Republicans are so in thrall to Trump and so terrified of his supporters that they are still reluctant to move against him. This kind of cowardice is establishing a horrific precedent, and would encourage future Presidents to believe that they could get away with almost anything without suffering the consequences for it.

[Inmate Trump]

An officer who worked at the Capitol during the riot has committed suicide:

https://www.thewrap.com/capitol-officer-dies-suicide/

More blood on Trump’s hands, as well as Ted Cruz’s and Josh Hawley’s.

Arrest them all.

[BlueSwan]

Sen Roy Blunt: Trump "learned his lesson", shouldn't resign

Remember when Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) explained away her decision to acquit President Donald Trump of impeachment last year because, in her opinion, “the president has learned from this case?”

Well, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) gave us the sequel to that hopelessly naive notion on Sunday morning.

....

“I think the country is the right way to hold presidents accountable,” he said. “The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you would expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world.”

“My personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again,” the senator continued. “And if that’s the case, we get—every day we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency.”

Such a facepalm moment.

"Hey everybody. Trump saw that the coup backfired. I'm sure he's not going to do anything else irrational. Let's just ignore this and carry on!"

[GALeftist]

Sen Roy Blunt: Trump "learned his lesson", shouldn't resign

Remember when Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) explained away her decision to acquit President Donald Trump of impeachment last year because, in her opinion, “the president has learned from this case?”

Well, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) gave us the sequel to that hopelessly naive notion on Sunday morning.

....

“I think the country is the right way to hold presidents accountable,” he said. “The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you would expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world.”

“My personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again,” the senator continued. “And if that’s the case, we get—every day we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency.”

I really, really wish that fool would have lost to Kander.

[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

Sen Roy Blunt: Trump "learned his lesson", shouldn't resign

Remember when Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) explained away her decision to acquit President Donald Trump of impeachment last year because, in her opinion, “the president has learned from this case?”

Well, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) gave us the sequel to that hopelessly naive notion on Sunday morning.

....

“I think the country is the right way to hold presidents accountable,” he said. “The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you would expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world.”

“My personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again,” the senator continued. “And if that’s the case, we get—every day we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency.”

Beyond parody...

[Badger]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

Yes, if only these poor marginalized individuals had someone in great position of influence and power to support their aims and goals. Like say maybe the majority of one of the two major political parties and the president of the United States himself. Then they wouldn't have to resort to such matters.

Great point! So glad that there's no one on that list trying to what about an attempted coup on powers of government!

[Badger]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

If there is one thing on God's green Earth that a trump supporter is not, it's unheard. You can't open a paper without reading yet another profile of one of their diners in the middle of nowhere. They are not an oppressed minority like African Americans in the civil rights era, they are a coddled, romanticized minority that uses violence and corruption to achieve their political goals and to stay in power despite almost always receiving less votes than the majority party.

Don't twist Dr. King's words to defend racists, neo-nazis and murderers. It's disgusting.

[Badger]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

If there is one thing on God's green Earth that a trump supporter is not, it's unheard. You can't open a paper without reading yet another profile of one of their diners in the middle of nowhere. They are not an oppressed minority like African Americans in the civil rights era, they are a coddled, romanticized minority that uses violence and corruption to achieve their political goals and to stay in power despite almost always receiving less votes than the majority party.

Don't twist Dr. King's words to defend racists, neo-nazis and murderers. It's disgusting.

All the major institutions, corporations, academia, media, the entertainment industry are opposed to Trump supporters who are ridiculed and often lose their jobs for the views, they are an oppressed group, they are oppressed by all of the major institutions and their voices are not listened to by any major institution in America except for now the WH.

Spoken like a good little brownshirt.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1348331437339119618

[Badger]

Liberals would do well to reflect on this quote by Martin Luther King, there is a lot of truth to it with regard to how many Americans feel.

A riot is the language of the unheard - Martin Luther King

If there is one thing on God's green Earth that a trump supporter is not, it's unheard. You can't open a paper without reading yet another profile of one of their diners in the middle of nowhere. They are not an oppressed minority like African Americans in the civil rights era, they are a coddled, romanticized minority that uses violence and corruption to achieve their political goals and to stay in power despite almost always receiving less votes than the majority party.

Don't twist Dr. King's words to defend racists, neo-nazis and murderers. It's disgusting.

All the major institutions, corporations, academia, media, the entertainment industry are opposed to Trump supporters who are ridiculed and often lose their jobs for the views, they are an oppressed group, they are oppressed by all of the major institutions and their voices are not listened to by any major institution in America except for now the WH.

Really? Trump supporters are oppressed by "all the major institutions," even though Trump was elevated to the presidency over the wishes of a plurality of the electorate because of the electoral college and his enablers were able to control the Senate for 4 years because of its extremely disproportionate system of representation? Trump supporters are oppressed by "all the major institutions" when the media would show his empty podiums instead of Hillary's campaign speeches and praise him for his "presidential tone" every time managed to avoid devolving into complete insanity?

That's not even to mention that, as we speak, congressional Republicans are trying to stop impeachment for no other reason than to coddle the delicate feelings of indignant, reality-denying Trump supporters.

Or to make sure QAnon lunatics don’t threaten their families.

So, in other words, they surrender and let the MAGA terrorists win? Things like "bodyguards", "security detail", and "police protection" just don't exist anymore?

It's either that, or they are MAGA terrorist sympathizers and trying to cover up for them.

You are both correct. I'm not 100% sure of the details, but IRC the typical Congressman does not have a dedicated security Force outside of their offices. It's not like they have more than a likely taxpayer-funded security system on their private home the same as many of us non members of Congress do, which is small comfort for the threat of qanon crazies kidnapping their kids at the bus stop or tossing a firebomb through their bedroom window.

I believe we are going to have to vastly expand oh, and I mean enormously, the security detail provided to members of Congress and their staff. Republicans have allowed this to generate where their party--not just Trump by a mile - - have actively incited the growth of a violent paramilitary auxiliary. The problem isn't going away with Trump in 10 days.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1348284578037960706

Thank God. And I don't believe that is a hyperbolic statement whatsoever. Mass prosecution's of these people who almost universally escaped arrest on that day is a crucial part of History establishing the wrongness of this traitorous violent insurrection.

Now if they'll just go after the ringleader....

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/nick_field90/status/1348341393991888902