The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[John Dule]

Wait, is it anti-Semitic to want people to convert to your religion?

Yes.

Interesting definition of anti-Semitism here.

Wanting anyone to convert to your religion is sociopathic.

Directly in the thread and all that.

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

[PSOL]

Wait, is it anti-Semitic to want people to convert to your religion?

Yes.

Interesting definition of anti-Semitism here.

Wanting anyone to convert to your religion is sociopathic.

Directly in the thread and all that.

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

Twirling_Fedora.jif

[John Dule]

Wait, is it anti-Semitic to want people to convert to your religion?

Yes.

Interesting definition of anti-Semitism here.

Wanting anyone to convert to your religion is sociopathic.

Directly in the thread and all that.

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

Twirling_Fedora.jif

I'd say you could do better than this, but on reflection that probably isn't true.

[PSOL]

Wait, is it anti-Semitic to want people to convert to your religion?

Yes.

Interesting definition of anti-Semitism here.

Wanting anyone to convert to your religion is sociopathic.

Directly in the thread and all that.

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

Twirling_Fedora.jif

I'd say you could do better than this, but on reflection that probably isn't true.

For a low effort post, I think it does the right amount for the job.

[John Dule]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

[PSOL]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

Imagine taking a sh**tpost this seriously, lmao.

Also, I’m clearly, and immensely easily verifiable, not a Christian lol.

[John Dule]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

Imagine taking a sh**tpost this seriously, lmao.

Also, I’m clearly, and immensely easily verifiable, not a Christian lol.

That observation was not directed at you.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

LMAO! Not getting invested in this fight, but that was seriously funny.

[PSOL]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

Imagine taking a sh**tpost this seriously, lmao.

Also, I’m clearly, and immensely easily verifiable, not a Christian lol.

That observation was not directed at you.

Well I am the only one who mentioned said hat in your comment(s) in this thread.

[Battista Minola 1616]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

[John Dule]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

Yeah, I'm probably too harsh when it comes to these things. I mean, when has the Catholic Church ever abused anyone? 🤔

[Battista Minola 1616]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

Yeah, I'm probably too harsh when it comes to these things. I mean, when has the Catholic Church ever abused anyone?

Too many times.

[President Johnson]

Referring to Doug Jones:

He is a noxious communist whose overt hatred/resentment towards his home state was so intense that we ran him out of office by a 20% margin in favor of a corrupt carpetbagging moron

[Donerail]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

I'm not sure what sort of serious answer you'd expect to a post like that. It is plainly true that many religions do grow through evangelization, so the premise that religions do not expect or intend to win converts is incorrect. The rest is the sort of anti-religious ranting that is standard for Dule, and I am grateful that he saved us the trouble by posting it directly into the thread.

[John Dule]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

I'm not sure what sort of serious answer you'd expect to a post like that. It is plainly true that many religions do grow through evangelization, so the premise that religions do not expect or intend to win converts is incorrect. The rest is the sort of anti-religious ranting that is standard for Dule, and I am grateful that he saved us the trouble by posting it directly into the thread.

I appear to have struck a nerve. Perhaps you'll think about this post the next time you ring somebody's doorbell to give them some "literature."

[Donerail]

I'm not sure what sort of serious answer you'd expect to a post like that. It is plainly true that many religions do grow through evangelization, so the premise that religions do not expect or intend to win converts is incorrect. The rest is the sort of anti-religious ranting that is standard for Dule, and I am grateful that he saved us the trouble by posting it directly into the thread.

I appear to have struck a nerve. Perhaps you'll think about this post the next time you ring somebody's doorbell to give them some "literature."

I am not a member of a church that does much, if any, evangelical work — this is part of the reason my denomination and ones like it are fading, while other traditions that place a greater emphasis on evangelism are growing. You don't have to like it, but it's hard to deny its effectiveness.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I'm not sure what sort of serious answer you'd expect to a post like that. It is plainly true that many religions do grow through evangelization, so the premise that religions do not expect or intend to win converts is incorrect. The rest is the sort of anti-religious ranting that is standard for Dule, and I am grateful that he saved us the trouble by posting it directly into the thread.

I appear to have struck a nerve. Perhaps you'll think about this post the next time you ring somebody's doorbell to give them some "literature."

I am not a member of a church that does much, if any, evangelical work — this is part of the reason my denomination and ones like it are fading, while other traditions that place a greater emphasis on evangelism are growing. You don't have to like it, but it's hard to deny its effectiveness.

Whoa wait you're saying that evangelisation isn't just a method of reinforcing in-group solidarity!?

[Xeuma]

Wait, is it anti-Semitic to want people to convert to your religion?

Yes.

Interesting definition of anti-Semitism here.

Wanting anyone to convert to your religion is sociopathic.

Directly in the thread and all that.

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

Given this reply and that about distributing “literature,” while also knocking the Catholic Church, it seems you have confused my faith for Mormonism.

[Horus]

I get that some people feel it is their biblical duty to go around trying to convert others, but unless someone reaches out to you it's a good example of not minding your own business. Leave people alone.

When I was younger Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses would come to my parents door almost every month, we told them not to come back and they always came back.

[VAR]

Safe R now that we have the first GCB poll out: R+12. The Republican will win by double digits.

He's talking about NC-SEN 2022

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Conversion efforts are abusive to congregants. By sending their followers out to "spread the good word," religions do not expect to win any new adherents. They assume (correctly) that the outside world will be hostile to their attempts, and that normal people will balk at them and be rude to their members. Then, when the congregants return to the security of the cult, they feel welcomed and at home again. The familiarity of the group calms their anxiety, and they are gradually taught to hate and fear those outside of the cult through conditional exposure. The goal is not to convince anyone to join the faith; that's just icing on the cake. On the contrary, their intention is to solidify their flock's dependence upon the cult by making them feel isolated, persecuted, and victimized. It's an insidiously genius method.

I think this deserves a serious answer, but I also know that you consider religion per se abusive to congregants, so maybe there's a premise problem.

I'm not sure what sort of serious answer you'd expect to a post like that. It is plainly true that many religions do grow through evangelization, so the premise that religions do not expect or intend to win converts is incorrect. The rest is the sort of anti-religious ranting that is standard for Dule, and I am grateful that he saved us the trouble by posting it directly into the thread.

I appear to have struck a nerve. Perhaps you'll think about this post the next time you ring somebody's doorbell to give them some "literature."

Has this ever happened to you? I can safely say I've never seen that sort of thing except from being forced to buy Buddhist pamphlets on the street.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Safe R now that we have the first GCB poll out: R+12. The Republican will win by double digits.

He's talking about NC-SEN 2022

I mean, while I won't stick a fork in General Eric until around September (EDIT: September of 2022), he's not completely wrong. It's a red state in a Biden midterm, and the second-most likely Republican nominee, Dan Bishop, has a uniting message (that is to say, he hates trans people). He'll walk.

[Kingpoleon]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

On the contrary. The charge of atheism has become so toxic that Bernie Sanders and AOC have felt the need to explicitly deny such charges.

One in four “non religious” Americans - a category I have voraciously attacked before - say they would be less likely to vote for someone who doesn’t believe in God.* “Decent counter arguments” are widespread, not the least of which is natural law, which an atheist by definition can’t believe in.

* https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/29/americans-are-somewhat-more-open-to-the-idea-of-an-atheist-president/

[John Dule]

Christians have had centuries to articulate decent counterarguments to secular philosophies, and in that period of time their greatest accomplishment has been associating atheism with a type of unflattering headgear that stopped being relevant in 2004.

On the contrary. The charge of atheism has become so toxic that Bernie Sanders and AOC have felt the need to explicitly deny such charges.

One in four “non religious” Americans - a category I have voraciously attacked before - say they would be less likely to vote for someone who doesn’t believe in God.* “Decent counter arguments” are widespread, not the least of which is natural law, which an atheist by definition can’t believe in.

* https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/29/americans-are-somewhat-more-open-to-the-idea-of-an-atheist-president/

These aren't counterarguments... one is an appeal to public opinion and the other is just not relevant. Obviously there is no such thing as natural law.

[The Dowager Mod]

Climate change isn't a problem, so it cant be solved either by market forces or communist left-wing government action