2020 Census and Redistricting Thread: Kansas

[Skill and Chance]

Notably while the senate had a working supermajority - their additional votes were just absent - the state house does not. They lost several R's and are 5 votes short of an override. So this is likely the death of Ad Astra.

Wow, interesting turn of events.  Dems will have a say after all.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wonderful! Thank you, based KS House RINOs

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Not very surprising news, but good news nonetheless.
The fact Rs don't seem to have the votes to get this past override changes things considerably.

[Skill and Chance]

Not very surprising news, but good news nonetheless.
The fact Rs don't seem to have the votes to get this past override changes things considerably.

Kansas politics are weird, in some ways it's like the late 20th century Dem legislatures in the South where like 25% of the Dems opposed the national party. 

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Not very surprising news, but good news nonetheless.
The fact Rs don't seem to have the votes to get this past override changes things considerably.

Kansas politics are weird.

Kansas is the epitome of an ancestral R state. It probably would be 55-45 RW if polarized between hardline liberal or hardline conservative, but the state just doesn't work like that.

[Oryxslayer]

Anyway, assuming the veto override votes go as these votes have - if they occur, this House vote may just be seen as writing on the wall - there are now basically two options. One, get Dems on board probably via Lawrence-KC since that still helps both Davids and LaTurner. Or two, punt it to the liberal court and likely get a least change map.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Notably while the senate had a working supermajority - their additional votes were just absent - the state house does not. They lost several R's and are 5 votes short of an override. So this is likely the death of Ad Astra.

Good, it’s an ugly map for no reason

[Mr.Phips]

Anyway, assuming the veto override votes go as these votes have - if they occur, this House vote may just be seen as writing on the wall - there are now basically two options. One, get Dems on board probably via Lawrence-KC since that still helps both Davids and LaTurner. Or two, punt it to the liberal court and likely get a least change map.

Due to population growth in Johnson county, least change would probably need to lop off the counties south of Johnson and maybe even part of Johnson.

[Brittain33]

Wyandotte + Johnson has 30k too many people.

[Mr.Phips]

Wyandotte + Johnson has 30k too many people.

Exactly.  It would be pretty easy to just lop of a part of southern Johnson county.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Wyandotte + Johnson has 30k too many people.

Exactly.  It would be pretty easy to just lop of a part of southern Johnson county.

This.

[MaxQue]

Why is it called Ad Astra? It's quite a silly name.

[Nyvin]

I'd think a court drawn Least Change map would be just about the last thing the KS GOP would want.   Even making a KC-Lawrence D vote sink out of KS-3 would be better for them.

[BoiseBoy]

Why is it called Ad Astra? It's quite a silly name.

Because they really liked the 2019 movie?

[Sol]

Kansas always gives redistricting plans goofy cute names for some reasons.

[kcguy]

Why is it called Ad Astra? It's quite a silly name.

"Ad Astra" is part of the state motto.

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1487158742248562691

Hopium

[MillennialModerate]

Chances this passes?

What about the Kansas Supreme Court? It has a majority of Dem appointed judges however I don’t think that matters as much as it does in other states

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1487158742248562691

Hopium

Laura Kelly  was playing the long game by opposing vaccine mandates.

[Tekken_Guy]

Chances this passes?

What about the Kansas Supreme Court? It has a majority of Dem appointed judges however I don’t think that matters as much as it does in other states

Why doesn’t the Supreme Court matter?

[Oryxslayer]

Kelly has unsurprisingly vetoed.

[It’s so Joever]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1487158742248562691

Hopium

LMAOOO

[GALeftist]

I had read that the KSGOP would try to override today, but haven't heard anything. Maryland was pretty quick; why the holdup?

[Oryxslayer]

I had read that the KSGOP would try to override today, but haven't heard anything. Maryland was pretty quick; why the holdup?

Simple, the GOP possibly/likely lack the votes.

[Schiff for Senate]

I had read that the KSGOP would try to override today, but haven't heard anything. Maryland was pretty quick; why the holdup?

MD Democrats have an overwhelming legislative supermajority and were more or less united around the plan. With KS, there are a few defectors/holdeouts, which is just enough to fall short of the required supermajority, since the KSGOP's supermajorities are very narrow.