Eva Murry falsely accuses Biden of complimenting her breasts

[GeorgiaModerate]

I expect more false allegations against Biden going forward. He's very vulnerable right now.

Accusations that have been discredited will inoculate the target to some degree against future accusations.  It's the "boy who cried wolf" principle.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Is Mike Avenatti Murry's lawyer?

[brucejoel99]

Is Mike Avenatti Murry's lawyer?

I'm sure he is in the alternate universe wherein he's not facing more than 40 years in federal prison.

[7,052,770]

I expect more false allegations against Biden going forward. He's very vulnerable right now.

Accusations that have been discredited will inoculate the target to some degree against future accusations.  It's the "boy who cried wolf" principle.

They basically already have.

Anyone want to conspiracize that Reade and Murry actually want Biden to win and did this on purpose as a kind of political vaccination for him? (Obviously no, it's not true, but I bet someone will say it at some point.)

[Brittain33]

But if he attended by a video message, it’s still possible the video contained something demeaning or offensive about Eva Murray.

[Landslide Lyndon]

What's more disturbing is that there were six witnesses who corroborated Murry's story.
It just goes to show how unreliable these friends and relatives can be.

[The Mikado]

But if he attended by a video message, it’s still possible the video contained something demeaning or offensive about Eva Murray.

Biden's prerecorded message to a crowd of 400-odd politicos, while VP on a ticket, including "by the way, my Senate opponent's niece is only 14 but already has an impressive rack."

I think...we'd have heard about that at the time. Just a hunch.

[Mr. Morden]

Murry apparently says she doesn't believe that Biden wasn't there:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/biden-campaign-provides-documents-to-dispute-eva-murry-sexual-harassment-allegation/

In a Facebook post, Murry is standing by her account.

“The Biden campaign is now trying to make it seem like Joe Biden never even attended the event (that year) they are saying he had a sinus infection and sent some one is his place, only that year,” she wrote. “They are saying he attended all the other years EXCEPT the one year my incident happened. This is crazy to me and saddens me.”

“I just wanted to post this to say, I am NOT lying I never was lying and I stick with my original truth, and that won’t change,” she added.

[afleitch]

Murry apparently says she doesn't believe that Biden wasn't there:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/biden-campaign-provides-documents-to-dispute-eva-murry-sexual-harassment-allegation/

In a Facebook post, Murry is standing by her account.

“The Biden campaign is now trying to make it seem like Joe Biden never even attended the event (that year) they are saying he had a sinus infection and sent some one is his place, only that year,” she wrote. “They are saying he attended all the other years EXCEPT the one year my incident happened. This is crazy to me and saddens me.”

“I just wanted to post this to say, I am NOT lying I never was lying and I stick with my original truth, and that won’t change,” she added.

If he wasn't there he wasn't there. I have no idea wft she's trying to argue here.

[7,052,770]

Murry apparently says she doesn't believe that Biden wasn't there:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/biden-campaign-provides-documents-to-dispute-eva-murry-sexual-harassment-allegation/

In a Facebook post, Murry is standing by her account.

“The Biden campaign is now trying to make it seem like Joe Biden never even attended the event (that year) they are saying he had a sinus infection and sent some one is his place, only that year,” she wrote. “They are saying he attended all the other years EXCEPT the one year my incident happened. This is crazy to me and saddens me.”

“I just wanted to post this to say, I am NOT lying I never was lying and I stick with my original truth, and that won’t change,” she added.

Is there another event that Biden and O'Donnell could have conceivably both been at in 2008?

Since O'Donnell was a random nobody opponent, I would presume they didn't have a debate or anything, and since Biden was also running for VP it's not like was really campaigning at all for the office.

I'm wondering if she has to double down because there's just no other time she would have crossed paths with him.

[afleitch]

Murry apparently says she doesn't believe that Biden wasn't there:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/biden-campaign-provides-documents-to-dispute-eva-murry-sexual-harassment-allegation/

In a Facebook post, Murry is standing by her account.

“The Biden campaign is now trying to make it seem like Joe Biden never even attended the event (that year) they are saying he had a sinus infection and sent some one is his place, only that year,” she wrote. “They are saying he attended all the other years EXCEPT the one year my incident happened. This is crazy to me and saddens me.”

“I just wanted to post this to say, I am NOT lying I never was lying and I stick with my original truth, and that won’t change,” she added.

Is there another event that Biden and O'Donnell could have conceivably both been at in 2008?

Since O'Donnell was a random nobody opponent, I would presume they didn't have a debate or anything, and since Biden was also running for VP it's not like was really campaigning at all for the office.

I'm wondering if she has to double down because there's just no other time she would have crossed paths with him.

Apparently O'Donnell suggested 2007, but records show he wasn't at that event either.

[BudgieForce]

https://mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1257012312088743941

[7,052,770]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

[The Mikado]

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.   Democratic        257,539   64.69%
Christine O'Donnell   Republican           140,595   35.31%

There's no way that much went on in this campaign, especially as Biden was running for VP. I doubt Biden even really had a Senate campaign that year in any real sense.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Murry apparently says she doesn't believe that Biden wasn't there:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/biden-campaign-provides-documents-to-dispute-eva-murry-sexual-harassment-allegation/

In a Facebook post, Murry is standing by her account.

“The Biden campaign is now trying to make it seem like Joe Biden never even attended the event (that year) they are saying he had a sinus infection and sent some one is his place, only that year,” she wrote. “They are saying he attended all the other years EXCEPT the one year my incident happened. This is crazy to me and saddens me.”

“I just wanted to post this to say, I am NOT lying I never was lying and I stick with my original truth, and that won’t change,” she added.

If he wasn't there he wasn't there. I have no idea wft she's trying to argue here.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY SHEEPLE!
WAKE UP!

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

When the #MAGA nuts are sending their people, they aren't sending their best.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Why are they going out of their way to soil this man’s reputation over some stuff they know didn’t happen? This is heinous and filthy. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1257012312088743941

And this is why Reade has studiously avoided thus far giving a specific date and place of when Biden attacked her. Because the wrong answer can expose her unequivocally as a liar and a fraud.

[BudgieForce]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

I do think this is a possibility. 400 people in a crowded ball room, a majority of whom are old white men. Probably not that hard to mix them up.

[The Mikado]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

I do think this is a possibility. 400 people in a crowded ball room, a majority of whom are old white men. Probably not that hard to mix them up.

Joe Biden was the Vice Presidential nominee and the guy her aunt was running against.

[7,052,770]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

I do think this is a possibility. 400 people in a crowded ball room, a majority of whom are old white men. Probably not that hard to mix them up.

Joe Biden was the Vice Presidential nominee and the guy her aunt was running against.

Yeah, I'm just trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Also, the event was in May 2008, so Biden was months away from being selected for VP, and O'Donnell (and for that matter Biden) wasn't even the nominee yet because Delaware doesn't do Senate primaries until September (!)

[JerryArkansas]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

I do think this is a possibility. 400 people in a crowded ball room, a majority of whom are old white men. Probably not that hard to mix them up.

Joe Biden was the Vice Presidential nominee and the guy her aunt was running against.

The event that this supposedly occurred actually happened before he was picked.  But still he was the guy running against her aunt as you said.

[LimoLiberal]

She had 7 friends corroborate her story and it's a complete lie? That calls into question the value of "corroborating witnesses" for future claims of sexual harassment and assault in politics. She got 7 people to lie for her.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Alternate theory - someone really said that to her, but it was actually someone else who fits Biden's general description?

I do think this is a possibility. 400 people in a crowded ball room, a majority of whom are old white men. Probably not that hard to mix them up.

Joe Biden was the Vice Presidential nominee and the guy her aunt was running against.

It's also possible that she's not trying to be deceptive, but rather that she's conflating the memories of two different events that happened quite a few years ago.  That kind of memory interleaving is quite common.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Why are they going out of their way to soil this man’s reputation over some stuff they know didn’t happen? This is heinous and filthy. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

People should be ashamed of themselves.  But Biden is reaping the harvest of the "Believe All Women" rhetoric.  Rhetoric that, at its heart, advocates abandoning the principles of the presumption of innocence and guilt being proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Is it possible that Kavanaugh is guilty, but Biden is innocent?  Of course it is.  Is it possible that this is a dirty trick against Biden?  Of course it's possible.  Is it possible that Dr. Blasey Ford is lying about Kavanaugh?  That's possible as well.  The battle over Roe is for keeps, and I don't put anything past anyone on that score.  Is is also possible that Kavanaugh is innocent and Biden is guilty?  Yes, that's a possibility as well.  

In truth, the #MeToo movement is one of the most dangerous movements that has ever risen up to prominence because it erodes the concepts that prevent innocent people from being convicted of crimes.  It erodes the principle of Gary Dotson's imprisonment on a false rape charge is a worse event than Brett Kavanaugh or Joe Biden possibly committing sexual assaults and not being charged, let alone convicted.  Justice requires difficult tasks on the part of those seeking justice, and those tasks involve meeting standards of proof and allowing witnesses to be confronted by a defendant in Court.  Vengeance requires only misguided passion and zeal.  At it's heart, the #MeToo movement is about vengeance.  Such movements rarely evolve to where justice comes out of them.