Elizabeth Warren 2020 Megathread v2 (pg 35 - Emily List support)

[redjohn]

What's Warren's path after losing IA, NH, NV, and SC? Her campaign's best hope is to somehow pull out NH, which I doubt happens if she comes in third in Iowa. If she can't do that, though, she probably loses every Super Tuesday state besides Massachusetts. It's conceivable she wins Maine, but beyond that I don't think she has a good shot in any other states. If she doesn't win either of the first two contests I think her campaign is over.

Her campaign rested on stealing Sanders' thunder, which was always going to be a tall order. That plainly hasn't happened.

Yeah, agreed. Her numbers and chances have dropped since she started to pivot to become a mainstream, moderate establishment candidate. I was leaning towards supporting her early in the summer because she seemed like a fresh, progressive voice, and then she started backtracking on M4A and that made me (as well as friends and family of mine) look further into her record to find a history of supporting terrible foreign policy, taking politically convenient positions, and worse. It's really a shame.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

When Warren talks about her own struggles in her past and compares them to what people are going through in present day America is when she is at her strongest. That's what she needs to communicate more if she wants to broaden her support beyond white college educated liberals.

[GoTfan]

When Warren talks about her own struggles in her past and compares them to what people are going through in present day America is when she is at her strongest. That's what she needs to communicate more if she wants to broaden her support beyond white college educated liberals.

This is the big one. Having gone and read A Fighting Chance and This Fight Is Our Fight, i'm surprised she'snot highlighting her biography. You could nearly make a movie out of it.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

So what was she supposed to do?  Not have a plan? Then people would be screeching about how she wants medicare for all doesnt have a plan to pay for it. Damned if you do damned if you dont

It wouldn't have been that difficult to propose a plan to pay for it that still would've done so by taxing the wealthy and wouldn't have had the constitutional or accounting problems that her proposals have.

[Beet]

Her plan is fine.

Warren continues to have the best message of the field. Corruption is the one problem that touches almost every issue. And in many issues, lobbying is the one reason why government is not responsive to public opinion. Democrats, Republicans, and independents are sick of it enough that if she gets elected, some anti-corruption bill may actually pass. Further, by far the biggest issue is the increasing dysfunction of democracy itself. Any system - whether authoritarian or democratic - will lose confidence and fall if perceived as corrupt. At a time when dictators like Xi Jinping and VI Putin are increasingly confident that they have an alternative model, those who believe in democracy must reform the corruption out of the system.

Her second and related issue - a rigged economy, is an equally big major problem. There should be no illusions that one election will fix these things by itself. It's an ongoing battle. But if America is smart for once, it will elect this woman president.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Her plan is fine.

Only if your goal is a one-term Democratic president who doesn't accomplish anything significant because she can't get stuff thru Congress and/or the courts.

Her  "Two cents" plan looks to as successful as this bright idea:

1865 Two Cent Reverse
Brandon Grossardt for the photograph; James Longacre for the coin design. [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Only if your goal is a one-term Democratic president who doesn't accomplish anything significant because she can't get stuff thru Congress and/or the courts.

Federal agencies don't exist. Trump hasn't engaged in a massive, damaging rollback of environmental regulations because he doesn't control the House!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No one talks about Warren anymore

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Only if your goal is a one-term Democratic president who doesn't accomplish anything significant because she can't get stuff thru Congress and/or the courts.

Federal agencies don't exist. Trump hasn't engaged in a massive, damaging rollback of environmental regulations because he doesn't control the House!

So, you're willing to settle for a brief four-year respite until the next Republican president? The simple fact is that unless the Democrats nominate an unelectable candidate, the results in November aren't going to depend much on which one is nominated as the 2020 election will largely be a referendum on Trump. So their focus needs to be on who can get legislation passed that the next Republican president cannot simply do away with by executive orders and changed regulations. Warren is not that person, nor is she likely to win a second term if elected.

Warren only makes sense if you believe she's the only candidate with a significantly better chance of beating Trump than anyone else in the race. She can win, but so far none of the candidates strike me as being especially capable of defeating Trump, tho some, like Bloomberg, do strike me as being less capable of doing that.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Btw, Warren is now just +3(!!!!) above Buttigeg. On October 8 (2 months ago), she was +21.8 ahead.

[redjohn]

Btw, Warren is now just +3(!!!!) above Buttigeg. On October 8 (2 months ago), she was +21.8 ahead.

What a great collapse. Hope she gets out of the race early and endorses Sanders.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Btw, Warren is now just +3(!!!!) above Buttigeg. On October 8 (2 months ago), she was +21.8 ahead.

What a great collapse. Hope she gets out of the race early and endorses Sanders.

Sanders is also just +4

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Real progressives don't choose Joe Biden as their running mate.

https://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP/status/1203820856629174273

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Real progressives don't choose Joe Biden as their running mate.

https://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP/status/1203820856629174273

oBaMa WaS rIgHt oF cEnTeR

[Beet]

Warren as released her Blue New Deal, becoming the only candidate to release an oceans-based environmental plan:

Climate change will also make living on the coast more risky due to sea level rise and the risk of monster storms. To ensure people living there don’t suffer, the plan prioritizes “vulnerable populations” to receive recovery aid after a disaster. Right now, the wealthy tend to receive more financial assistance even though they can typically handle weather shocks more easily. The Blue New Deal would help level the playing field.

In addition, it would move people out of harm’s way. Warren promises in the plan that no further public housing will be built within five feet of sea level “because it is the responsibility of the federal government to protect our most vulnerable families, not intentionally put them in harm’s way.” Previous research has shown that low-income people are more likely to live in floodplains because property is usually cheaper here, and these areas have been developed for multi-family housing, such as mobile homes or rental units. This point is the plan’s most groundbreaking commitment, Johnson said.

“We actually need to completely rethink how and where we’re living on this planet,” Johnson said. “It doesn’t make any sense to keep investing in building things that we know are going to be inundated, and so this plan is the first truly realistic proposal in that regard.”

https://earther.gizmodo.com/elizabeth-warren-proposes-a-green-new-deal-for-the-ocea-1840336206

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Warren as released her Blue New Deal, becoming the only candidate to release an oceans-based environmental plan:

Climate change will also make living on the coast more risky due to sea level rise and the risk of monster storms. To ensure people living there don’t suffer, the plan prioritizes “vulnerable populations” to receive recovery aid after a disaster. Right now, the wealthy tend to receive more financial assistance even though they can typically handle weather shocks more easily. The Blue New Deal would help level the playing field.

In addition, it would move people out of harm’s way. Warren promises in the plan that no further public housing will be built within five feet of sea level “because it is the responsibility of the federal government to protect our most vulnerable families, not intentionally put them in harm’s way.” Previous research has shown that low-income people are more likely to live in floodplains because property is usually cheaper here, and these areas have been developed for multi-family housing, such as mobile homes or rental units. This point is the plan’s most groundbreaking commitment, Johnson said.

“We actually need to completely rethink how and where we’re living on this planet,” Johnson said. “It doesn’t make any sense to keep investing in building things that we know are going to be inundated, and so this plan is the first truly realistic proposal in that regard.”

https://earther.gizmodo.com/elizabeth-warren-proposes-a-green-new-deal-for-the-ocea-1840336206

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wow so woke <3

[Shadows]

Memo from 1990s pollution case shows Elizabeth Warren in action as corporate consultant

The memo from then-Professor Elizabeth Warren was written on Harvard Law School letterhead, a symbol of gravitas for a scholar renowned as a champion for consumers victimized by predatory banks and other big businesses.But on this occasion, Warren was not arguing on behalf of vulnerable families, nor was she offering the sort of stinging rebuke of corporate greed that would later define her political career. Rather, Warren was representing a large development company that was trying to avoid having to clean up a toxic waste site.

The memo, which Warren wrote in 1996, used legalistic and often dense language to argue that businesses faced the “risk of the unknown” from a growing threat of lawsuits, and that defended the company’s right to “maximize its returns to its unpaid creditors and to survive as an employer. Among the corporations that hired Warren was Dow Chemical, which spent years trying to ward off liability after a subsidiary company’s silicone breast implants began to rupture. She also worked for LTV Steel, a firm that battled with the labor movement as it tried to avoid paying millions of dollars for retired coal miners’ health care.

http://washingtonpost.com/politics/memo-in-1990s-pollution-case-shows-elizabeth-warren-in-action-as-corporate-consultant/2019/12/09/6a6fade0-1a9b-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Too bad Warren fell, so hard, Biden had a real shot at losing if she won the 1st several primaries

[JGibson]

Megan Rapinoe has endorsed Elizabeth Warren.

https://twitter.com/mPinoe/status/1205537664054595584

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Megan Rapinoe has endorsed Elizabeth Warren.

https://twitter.com/mPinoe/status/1205537664054595584

Who?

[Crumpets]

Megan Rapinoe has endorsed Elizabeth Warren.

https://twitter.com/mPinoe/status/1205537664054595584

Who?

Sports Illustrated's Sportsperson of the Year, and two-time World Champion on behalf of the US. i.e. someone true red-blooded American patriots would care about.

[OneJ]

Hundreds of Obama alumni endorse Elizabeth Warren

With the Iowa caucuses less than two months away, more than 200 Obama alumni joined a signature-gathering effort led by a pair of former senior Obama aides, Sara El-Amine and Jon Carson. Among other roles, El-Amine was national director of Obama's 2012 re-election campaign, while Carson was a national field director for Obama's 2008 campaign prior to joining the administration. Both served as executive directors of Organizing for America, the Obama grassroots organizing network.

[Donerail]

^One of those "Obama alumni" listed as endorsing Elizabeth Warren is Obama donor and serial killer Ed Buck, currently in federal jail awaiting trial on charges of distribution of methamphetamine resulting in death. Buck has two known victims but may have as many as ten.

[JGibson]

Warren did excellent tonight.

[GP270watch]

Warren did excellent tonight.

If people are being real she's won every single debate.