Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)

[Ebsy]

Swing and a miss libs.

[DrScholl]

To say that Wallace was "sensitive to what people feel they need" makes no sense when you consider that Wallace was a segregationist who only cared about what some of the people in his state needed. Sanders was giving him praise for his ability to build a base.

Wallace had disavowed segregation in 1972.

It was still his legacy and what he was known for.

[Ebsy]

To say that Wallace was "sensitive to what people feel they need" makes no sense when you consider that Wallace was a segregationist who only cared about what some of the people in his state needed. Sanders was giving him praise for his ability to build a base.

Wallace had disavowed segregation in 1972.

It was still his legacy and what he was known for.

Byrd (literal Klansman) endorsed Obama in 2008. Should Obama disavowed and had nothing to do with him? In any case, only an addled person could interpret what Sanders said as praise.

[DrScholl]

To say that Wallace was "sensitive to what people feel they need" makes no sense when you consider that Wallace was a segregationist who only cared about what some of the people in his state needed. Sanders was giving him praise for his ability to build a base.

Wallace had disavowed segregation in 1972.

It was still his legacy and what he was known for.

Byrd (literal Klansman) endorsed Obama in 2008. Should Obama disavowed and had nothing to do with him? In any case, only an addled person could interpret what Sanders said as praise.

First off, Byrd had long rejected his past and had earned a 100% NAACP rating during his career. Sanders was giving Wallace big ups for building a base and admiring the anger of said base not long after the civil rights movement.

But Sanders is not my candidate and he is not getting my vote, so I'm entitled to my opinions on him.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Remember people, this campaign is touting the endorsement of a known homophobic, racist, transphobic, bro. The same campaign also endorse a well-known misogynist who is also a genocide-denying freak. A staff that is led by David Sirota, a known bigot and attacker of the Democratic Party.

What high hat game do we need to convince of Bernie Sanders incredibly toxic campaign?

It'd do you good to avoid Twitter for a day, lest we keep debating the evils of an MMA commentator's endorsement

Then again, I love the imagery of paintbrushing all Bernie supporters as evil; From Joe Rogan to Arianna Grande

[Eraserhead]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

[Ronnie]

Here's an article with more context regarding Bernie's remarks on Wallace:

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1223019958390677504

I think it's obvious that the Democrats who are spreading the two sentences in question have no interest in engaging in good faith, and are only out to smear Bernie.

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

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And just think, the establishment is going to get even more deranged if Bernie wins Iowa.

[Cinemark]

I mean, "the establishment" could have fed them this story, but The Washington Examiner is somewhere between The Federalist and Fox News in terms of right wingedness.

[Farmlands]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

[Illini Moderate]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

They're going to crucify Sanders if he is the nominee. He's one of the only major candidates who hasn't been subject to a major attack campaign.

[Farmlands]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Is this based on anything other than your intuition or projection based on how you feel about him? Because there hasn't been any polling or past election history to suggest that African Americans would be turned off in the general with a Sanders-type nominee. I'd actually expect any losses to be counteracted with higher millenial AA turnout.

[Eraserhead]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

They're going to crucify Sanders if he is the nominee. He's one of the only major candidates who hasn't been subject to a major attack campaign.

What a joke. He's been attacked constantly, the attacks are just weak!

[GoTfan]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Aren't you the type of people who'll then scream that progressives should fall in line despite feeling marginalised?

Half of the Democrats on here would prefer Trump to Sanders, it seems.

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Is this based on anything other than your intuition or projection based on how you feel about him? Because there hasn't been any polling or past election history to suggest that African Americans would be turned off in the general with a Sanders-type nominee. I'd actually expect any losses to be counteracted with higher millenial AA turnout.

Comments like this about George Wallace would be a deal breaker for a lot of voters, especially with massive troll bot campaigns targeting black voters in key places.

But he doesn't need the black vote to win the general election. His supporters seem pretty confident that he's brought in enough new voters from Joe Rogan's listening base.

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Aren't you the type of people who'll then scream that progressives should fall in line despite feeling marginalised?

Half of the Democrats on here would prefer Trump to Sanders, it seems.

First off, you don't live here so there is no marginalizing you. Second, if progressives want to go Bernie or Bust, they are free to make that choice, because everyone is free to vote for who they like.

It's not a matter of preferring Trump to Sanders, it's a matter of knowing what the outcome will be well in advance of the election. Sanders would lose.

[GoTfan]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Aren't you the type of people who'll then scream that progressives should fall in line despite feeling marginalised?

Half of the Democrats on here would prefer Trump to Sanders, it seems.

First off, you don't live here so there is no marginalizing you. Second, if progressives want to go Bernie or Bust, they are free to make that choice, because everyone is free to vote for who they like.

It's not a matter of preferring Trump to Sanders, it's a matter of knowing what the outcome will be well in advance of the election. Sanders would lose.

And yet, you'll still scream at them to shut up and get in line.

And yes, its is a matter. At least of the Democrats on here hate Sanders enough that they'd vote for Trump.

[Roblox]

And republicans wouldn't use Biden's comments to suppress turnout?

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

They're going to crucify Sanders if he is the nominee. He's one of the only major candidates who hasn't been subject to a major attack campaign.

What a joke. He's been attacked constantly, the attacks are just weak!

Hillary Clinton barely laid a hand on him and no one in this primary has really gone after him.

[Eraserhead]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Is this based on anything other than your intuition or projection based on how you feel about him? Because there hasn't been any polling or past election history to suggest that African Americans would be turned off in the general with a Sanders-type nominee. I'd actually expect any losses to be counteracted with higher millenial AA turnout.

Comments like this about George Wallace would be a deal breaker for a lot of voters, especially with massive troll bot campaigns targeting black voters in key places.

But he doesn't need the black vote to win the general election. His supporters seem pretty confident that he's brought in enough new voters from Joe Rogan's listening base.

Yeah, I'm sure black voters are going to be very offended by Bernie Sanders comparing George Wallace to Hitler.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Aren't you the type of people who'll then scream that progressives should fall in line despite feeling marginalised?

Half of the Democrats on here would prefer Trump to Sanders, it seems.

First off, you don't live here so there is no marginalizing you. Second, if progressives want to go Bernie or Bust, they are free to make that choice, because everyone is free to vote for who they like.

It's not a matter of preferring Trump to Sanders, it's a matter of knowing what the outcome will be well in advance of the election. Sanders would lose.

Very impressive that you can foretell electoral outcomes ten months before a single vote has even been cast.  May I borrow your crystal ball?



Hopefully it's better than this one.

[DrScholl]

Just when you think the next attack can't possibly be more pathetic, desperate and misleading than the last...

Not a good look for the establishment. :/

The Washington Examiner posted this latest news and that is a right-wing publication. Not exactly a DNC establishment. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee and can't handle Trump's attacks, then he is toast.

If that is the best they can throw out there, then I suddenly feel very confident about the general election. Half joking of course, but these attacks are coming off as increasingly desperate and meaningless.

It's a test to see if they can suppress the black vote. You all expect "the blacks" to fall in line for Bernie because they have no other choice, but things like this matter more than you think. Black voters already feel marginalized as it is, so a choice between Sanders and Trump could result in staying at home winning. In 2020 looks like 2016 then depressed turnout in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would put Trump back in office.

Aren't you the type of people who'll then scream that progressives should fall in line despite feeling marginalised?

Half of the Democrats on here would prefer Trump to Sanders, it seems.

First off, you don't live here so there is no marginalizing you. Second, if progressives want to go Bernie or Bust, they are free to make that choice, because everyone is free to vote for who they like.

It's not a matter of preferring Trump to Sanders, it's a matter of knowing what the outcome will be well in advance of the election. Sanders would lose.

And yet, you'll still scream at them to shut up and get in line.

And yes, its is a matter. At least of the Democrats on here hate Sanders enough that they'd vote for Trump.

Personally, I don't care who Sanders supporters vote for and I wouldn't ask a single one to support any Democrat. Your arguments are all based on concern over what others say. If you have as much principle as you claim you wouldn't care what they say.

I wouldn't vote for Trump, but I wouldn't vote for Sanders either. I feel no need to vote for someone who is going to lose.

[DrScholl]

Yeah, I'm sure black voters are going to be very offended by Bernie Sanders comparing George Wallace to Hitler.

Blah, blah, blah. Most voters aren't going to read miles long Twitter threads dissecting every single letter of every statement Sanders has ever made for context. They will see a headline and run with it.