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« Reply #1600 on: June 30, 2019, 04:14:51 AM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




No surprise here. It was always obvious that Bernie bros were eager to burn the village in order to save it.

TIL some guy named Ken Silverstein writing for the Washington Babylon represents "leftists" and "Bernie bros".

You should remember that.
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« Reply #1601 on: June 30, 2019, 07:13:17 AM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




I've never been able to shake the suspicion that a good chunk of vocal "Bernie bros" would find reasons not to support the Democratic ticket even if Sen. Sanders was at the top of it.
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« Reply #1602 on: June 30, 2019, 07:30:09 AM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




No surprise here. It was always obvious that Bernie bros were eager to burn the village in order to save it.

TIL some guy named Ken Silverstein writing for the Washington Babylon represents "leftists" and "Bernie bros".

You think he is the only or the first Sandernista to express such a view?
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« Reply #1603 on: June 30, 2019, 05:46:24 PM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




Omar in not eligible to be President...
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« Reply #1604 on: June 30, 2019, 06:11:23 PM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




Omar in not eligible to be President...

Beat me to it. This should be the first reaction to this madness.
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« Reply #1605 on: June 30, 2019, 07:06:21 PM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




Omar in not eligible to be President...

so happy she isnt
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« Reply #1606 on: June 30, 2019, 07:27:31 PM »

Oh, now they are preparing for the destruction of the American sovereignty through contrarian voting for Trump. Great job leftists, great job.




Omar in not eligible to be President...

so disappointed she isnt
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« Reply #1607 on: July 01, 2019, 04:50:11 PM »

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« Reply #1608 on: July 01, 2019, 05:35:48 PM »

Bernie thought he’d immediately be the front runner without having to work for it. Cute. Purple heart
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« Reply #1609 on: July 01, 2019, 07:11:08 PM »

Bernie thought he’d immediately be the front runner without having to work for it. Cute. Purple heart

To be fair, he's not holding private fundraisers. But neither is Warren, so I guess she'll be our test case.
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« Reply #1610 on: July 02, 2019, 09:22:41 AM »



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« Reply #1611 on: July 02, 2019, 09:23:56 AM »

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« Reply #1612 on: July 02, 2019, 11:12:12 AM »

Decent haul, not amazing.
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« Reply #1613 on: July 02, 2019, 11:53:46 AM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.

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« Reply #1614 on: July 02, 2019, 06:25:43 PM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.
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« Reply #1615 on: July 02, 2019, 06:36:04 PM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.
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« Reply #1616 on: July 02, 2019, 06:38:16 PM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.

What do you think will signal that it's his time to drop out?
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« Reply #1617 on: July 03, 2019, 03:57:10 AM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.

He didn't drop out because he enjoyed too much the attention by the media and his cult.
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« Reply #1618 on: July 03, 2019, 08:42:00 AM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.

What do you think will signal that it's his time to drop out?

If he loses New Hampshire, he'll almost certainly drop out. I'd prefer if he dropped out way earlier, but that's an unreasonable expectation for any major candidate.
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« Reply #1619 on: July 03, 2019, 11:23:20 AM »

Not gonna drop out, keep dreaming
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« Reply #1620 on: July 03, 2019, 07:58:28 PM »

Election betting odds has Sanders at 7.6% chance, Predictit says 14%. If Warren gets a few more good polls, she'll top him in the RCP polling average too. She's already pulled ahead in the most recent Iowa poll (20 vs 12).

Sanders cannot win the nomination without taking out Warren.

So how does Bernie come back from this? The most important inflection points between now and Iowa are the debates and Warren is a fantastic debater. If Sanders slips behind any further and chooses to attack Warren, he risks backlash, especially if he tries to make hay out of the Native American scandal. Maybe Booker or Harris could bring that up with some success?

I just don't see how this pans out for him. Maybe he wins New Hampshire and builds momentum off of that, but it's just as likely Warren wins Iowa and barrels into NH. I'd love to hear a theory of how he gets from here to the nomination because right now I think betting markets are pumped by avid supporters and/or are slow to realize someone who did so well in '16 could be on his way out now.
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« Reply #1621 on: July 04, 2019, 09:55:34 AM »

Warren is not a great debater & has never been. And it doesn't matter. You have more than 6 months. This is the same crop of people who started the Biden finished rhetoric before be jumped in, the Warren finished rhetoric after the Native American thing.

No1 cares. Polls this early are meaningless unless Sanders tanks into 5-7% odd. Many of the polls are under sampling young voters or are over sampling people who watched the debates. Sanders has the money & field support to drive a much higher turnout than what polls predict. You get to December/January' & if Sanders is still jot within 5-6% from No.1 guy, then there must be something to worry.
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« Reply #1622 on: July 04, 2019, 09:58:31 AM »

Bernie has a 0% chance at this point.

The only question at this point is whether he will do so badly (less than 10% in the first four states) that he'll basically have to drop out or if he will be able to scrap up 15% everywhere and justify symbolically staying in until the convention as he has announced his intention to do.

We saw the Bernie playbook in 2016. We heard his one speech. There are no tricks left in his bag and even the old tricks don't work as well because all the other candidates are doing them too. Nothing is going to save him.



I don't see him dropping out though. He might even stay in until the convention again.

He didn't drop out in 2016 because he knew Clinton would pivot to the center the moment he was gone. That won't be the case this time.

What do you think will signal that it's his time to drop out?

Should Harris & Warren drop out for being unelectable in the GE?

Shop Biden, Warren & Harris drop out for having much lower individual donors & hence grassroots support than Bernie.

Sanders is No.2 in the average of all polls, had a stellar fundraising, highest individual donors, did no major errors in the 1st debate & he is being asked to drop out.

The media & most elites will hate him anyways but Sanders will be taking this to the convention, either as the nominee or as one of the few with a fractured mandate.
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« Reply #1623 on: July 04, 2019, 10:04:29 AM »

Should Harris & Warren drop out for being unelectable in the GE?

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« Reply #1624 on: July 04, 2019, 10:20:15 AM »

Warren is not a great debater & has never been. And it doesn't matter. You have more than 6 months. This is the same crop of people who started the Biden finished rhetoric before be jumped in, the Warren finished rhetoric after the Native American thing.

No1 cares. Polls this early are meaningless unless Sanders tanks into 5-7% odd. Many of the polls are under sampling young voters or are over sampling people who watched the debates. Sanders has the money & field support to drive a much higher turnout than what polls predict. You get to December/January' & if Sanders is still jot within 5-6% from No.1 guy, then there must be something to worry.
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