Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

[Yank2133]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

[Chief Justice Keef]

https://twitter.com/Integrity_Guy/status/1141439378750758912

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/Integrity_Guy/status/1141439378750758912

This tweet literally makes no sense.

[Mr. Morden]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

That doesn't make any sense given the wording of his tweet and the tweet he was responding to.  "They know our progressive agenda....is the real threat to the billionaire class".  How does it make sense that when he tweets that in response to a tweet about centrists backing Warren instead of him, that he's not implying that Warren's agenda doesn't threaten the rich in the same way?  If it did, then why are they supporting (or open to supporting) Warren while they won't back Sanders?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

That doesn't make any sense given the wording of his tweet and the tweet he was responding to.  "They know our progressive agenda....is the real threat to the billionaire class".  How does it make sense that when he tweets that in response to a tweet about centrists backing Warren instead of him, that he's not implying that Warren's agenda doesn't threaten the rich in the same way?  If it did, then why are they supporting (or open to supporting) Warren while they won't back Sanders?

He's probably saying that they are pushing Warren to divide the progressive vote and figure she'll be easier to take down later.

[GoTfan]

Oh mY  GoD BerNIE EviL!!!!!!

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/Integrity_Guy/status/1141439378750758912

That guy was asleep just last decade. Hillary did everything she could to be different from Obama, and vice versa.

[Saint Milei]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

This is factual tbh

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

https://twitter.com/alxthomp/status/1141518668662300677?s=21

[Sumner 1868]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

This is factual tbh

No, both are false. Sanders would win the election, but he also wouldn't get any of his policies through a Democratic Congress because that party is as deep in corporate cash as the GOP. The reason they oppose him is he would be a symbolic rejection of them, even though they would pretty much still control the entire infrastructure of the party.

[Saint Milei]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

This is factual tbh

No, both are false. Sanders would win the election, but he also wouldn't get any of his policies through a Democratic Congress because that party is as deep in corporate cash as the GOP. The reason they oppose him is he would be a symbolic rejection of them, even though they would pretty much still control the entire infrastructure of the party.

Sanders has zero chance

[America Needs R'hllor]

https://twitter.com/alxthomp/status/1141518668662300677?s=21

So, it's not his fault. No, it never is- it's just the silly voters wanting a woman or a younger person, that's all.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Obviously the only reason why Warren's numbers  have improved is because suddenly voters discovered that she has a vagina and that she is young (only 69 years old!).
The notion that she might be a superior candidate who connects better with the people was probably too absurd to cross ol' Bernie's mind.

[GoTfan]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

"Oh it's too hard, we give up" is an approach Democrats took for 8 years under Obama. Every time he gave Republicans a little bit of ground, they lurched rightward. I mean, isn't Obamacare a right-wing policy originally developed as the counter to universal healthcare in the 1990s?

Meeting Republicans halfway will not change a damn thing. If there's one thing Democrats should've learnt from Republicans by now, it's that if you start out from a more extreme negotiating position, you're more likely to get more of what you want in the final bill.

[QAnonKelly]

https://twitter.com/alxthomp/status/1141518668662300677?s=21

Wow a man who didn’t have a job until he was 40 really has the audacity to imply Liz Warren who’s probably the smartest, most accomplished person in all of government right now is rising because she’s a lady. Real woke. Warren’s probably done more in a week than he’s done in his entire life.

[SInNYC]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

It's a framing issue more than anything else. Warren frames her proposals around sound policy that benefits the working people, while Bernie has carried the "Democratic Socialism" label alongside his proposals.

Upon closer inspection, both of their policies are similar and reach the same goal. To the naked eye, so to speak, Warren's position is perceived as more palatable simply because of how she frames the conversation.

Perceptions are crucial.

Thats true. But at the same time, when Bernie proposes the same policy as Warren, the instant reaction is 'unrealistic radical proposal that will never pass' while Warren gets the reaction 'she has solid ideas'. The media perception right now is that Warren is an idea candidate while Bernie is an ineffective gadfly.

Warren successfully changed her image from silly stuff like Pocahontas to the policy geek by floating lots of policies. Now its Bernie's turn to change his image, and I think he should do it by somehow getting across how effective he has been in Congress. I dont know if he can...

[GoTfan]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

It's a framing issue more than anything else. Warren frames her proposals around sound policy that benefits the working people, while Bernie has carried the "Democratic Socialism" label alongside his proposals.

Upon closer inspection, both of their policies are similar and reach the same goal. To the naked eye, so to speak, Warren's position is perceived as more palatable simply because of how she frames the conversation.

Perceptions are crucial.

Thats true. But at the same time, when Bernie proposes the same policy as Warren, the instant reaction is 'unrealistic radical proposal that will never pass' while Warren gets the reaction 'she has solid ideas'. The media perception right now is that Warren is an idea candidate while Bernie is an ineffective gadfly.

Warren successfully changed her image from silly stuff like Pocahontas to the policy geek by floating lots of policies. Now its Bernie's turn to change his image, and I think he should do it by somehow getting across how effective he has been in Congress. I dont know if he can...

I could claim that it's a bit unfair of the media to treat the exact same policy differently depending on who it comes from as it clearly shows who they favour, but that would make me racist and sexist beyond belief.

As you know, all Bernie supporters are incredible racists and sexists who want to exterminate everyone who's not a white male.

[Ilhan Apologist]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

It's a framing issue more than anything else. Warren frames her proposals around sound policy that benefits the working people, while Bernie has carried the "Democratic Socialism" label alongside his proposals.

Upon closer inspection, both of their policies are similar and reach the same goal. To the naked eye, so to speak, Warren's position is perceived as more palatable simply because of how she frames the conversation.

Perceptions are crucial.

Thats true. But at the same time, when Bernie proposes the same policy as Warren, the instant reaction is 'unrealistic radical proposal that will never pass' while Warren gets the reaction 'she has solid ideas'. The media perception right now is that Warren is an idea candidate while Bernie is an ineffective gadfly.

Warren successfully changed her image from silly stuff like Pocahontas to the policy geek by floating lots of policies. Now its Bernie's turn to change his image, and I think he should do it by somehow getting across how effective he has been in Congress. I dont know if he can...

Could he bring up his mayoral record from the 1980s? That's at least reassured me that he can govern as a pragmatist when he needs to.

[GoTfan]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

It's a framing issue more than anything else. Warren frames her proposals around sound policy that benefits the working people, while Bernie has carried the "Democratic Socialism" label alongside his proposals.

Upon closer inspection, both of their policies are similar and reach the same goal. To the naked eye, so to speak, Warren's position is perceived as more palatable simply because of how she frames the conversation.

Perceptions are crucial.

Thats true. But at the same time, when Bernie proposes the same policy as Warren, the instant reaction is 'unrealistic radical proposal that will never pass' while Warren gets the reaction 'she has solid ideas'. The media perception right now is that Warren is an idea candidate while Bernie is an ineffective gadfly.

Warren successfully changed her image from silly stuff like Pocahontas to the policy geek by floating lots of policies. Now its Bernie's turn to change his image, and I think he should do it by somehow getting across how effective he has been in Congress. I dont know if he can...

Could he bring up his mayoral record from the 1980s? That's at least reassured me that he can govern as a pragmatist when he needs to.

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

[Ilhan Apologist]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

It's a framing issue more than anything else. Warren frames her proposals around sound policy that benefits the working people, while Bernie has carried the "Democratic Socialism" label alongside his proposals.

Upon closer inspection, both of their policies are similar and reach the same goal. To the naked eye, so to speak, Warren's position is perceived as more palatable simply because of how she frames the conversation.

Perceptions are crucial.

Thats true. But at the same time, when Bernie proposes the same policy as Warren, the instant reaction is 'unrealistic radical proposal that will never pass' while Warren gets the reaction 'she has solid ideas'. The media perception right now is that Warren is an idea candidate while Bernie is an ineffective gadfly.

Warren successfully changed her image from silly stuff like Pocahontas to the policy geek by floating lots of policies. Now its Bernie's turn to change his image, and I think he should do it by somehow getting across how effective he has been in Congress. I dont know if he can...

Could he bring up his mayoral record from the 1980s? That's at least reassured me that he can govern as a pragmatist when he needs to.

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

Sorry, what? This would literally just be talking about his record.

[Landslide Lyndon]

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

Oh please, stop with that ridiculous persecution complex.

[GoTfan]

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

Oh please, stop with that ridiculous persecution complex.

Please try actually reading next time.

[Landslide Lyndon]

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

Oh please, stop with that ridiculous persecution complex.

Please try actually reading next time.

I read you alright. Just because you're passive-aggressive doesn't change anything.

[GoTfan]

He'd be accused-and quite rightly so-of bringing up things from past eras.

Oh please, stop with that ridiculous persecution complex.

Please try actually reading next time.

I read you alright. Just because you're passive-aggressive doesn't change anything.

Maybe I should repeat myself so it gets through your head.

I said people would be RIGHT to accuse him of harping on about bipartsianship from a time that was 20 years ago because it's so far removed from what's actually happening.

Stop projecting your hatred for the Greek left onto everyone else who's left-wing and try to view things objectively.

[Yank2133]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

"Oh it's too hard, we give up" is an approach Democrats took for 8 years under Obama. Every time he gave Republicans a little bit of ground, they lurched rightward. I mean, isn't Obamacare a right-wing policy originally developed as the counter to universal healthcare in the 1990s?

Meeting Republicans halfway will not change a damn thing. If there's one thing Democrats should've learnt from Republicans by now, it's that if you start out from a more extreme negotiating position, you're more likely to get more of what you want in the final bill.

I have no idea what your post has to do with anything I said.

Bernie stans need to realize that the issue moderates/establishment people have with them isn't do to policy. The issue is that they are incompetent and the campaign is amateurish. Like yesterday, Bernie is at Clyburn's Fish Fry and does a speech on the third way think tank. How many voters do you think knows and actually cares about some DC centrist think tank? Warren is no moderate herself and you see some Democratic hacks warming up to her and it is in part because she doesn't do stupid stuff like this.