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« Reply #1550 on: June 26, 2019, 02:49:23 PM »

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Bernie Sanders wouldn't commit to dropping out of the race before the convention if he were not the nominee and said some people say he would've beat Trump "if the system weren't rigged against me."  with @kasie

The good people of Iowa need to give him fourth or fifth place finish.

Bury this asshole before he tries to **** everyone over with his vanity campaign.
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« Reply #1551 on: June 26, 2019, 05:22:40 PM »

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Bernie Sanders wouldn't commit to dropping out of the race before the convention if he were not the nominee and said some people say he would've beat Trump "if the system weren't rigged against me."  with @kasie

Ah yes, it was totally rigged... if by rigged, of course, he means that his opponent was significantly more popular with primary voters &, thus, earned 4 million more votes, then yep, definitely rigged.
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« Reply #1552 on: June 26, 2019, 06:17:46 PM »

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Bernie Sanders wouldn't commit to dropping out of the race before the convention if he were not the nominee and said some people say he would've beat Trump "if the system weren't rigged against me."  with @kasie

Ah yes, it was totally rigged... if by rigged, of course, he means that his opponent was significantly more popular with primary voters &, thus, earned 4 million more votes, then yep, definitely rigged.

Inb4 jfern mentions David Brock.
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« Reply #1553 on: June 26, 2019, 06:21:44 PM »

I'm wondering how Clinton bots feel when they wake up each morning knowing their allmighty candidate got sent to the dustbin of history by a guy who can barely formulate a sentence.
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« Reply #1554 on: June 26, 2019, 06:48:53 PM »

I'm wondering how Clinton bots feel when they wake up each morning knowing their allmighty candidate got sent to the dustbin of history by a guy who can barely formulate a sentence.

I don't know if I'm a "Clinton bot" per se, but I did vote for her in the primary and probably like her more than the average person. But I for one think everyone should wake up with a sense of dread like I do in Trump's America, regardless of what you thought of Clinton.

As much as I supported her, I always thought she was vulnerable to lose in 2016 almost entirely due to the eight year itch. Thankfully she was gifted with what, at the time, seemed like a blessing with Trump being nominated by the GOP. I thought going up against him would be her best chance to win, other than someone like Cruz perhaps. As the election went on though, and I saw how Trump managed to effectively manipulate so many Americans, I knew it was going to be a close election. Trump's unorthodox persona proved to be very difficult to run against. At various times I thought she would win like during the debates and the Access Hollywood tape's relevance, and at others I thought she would lose like when she collapsed from pneumonia and the Comey press conference. Unfortunately, it was that last thing that I believe did her in for good. Had that happened at an earlier time, or had the election taken place some other time, I think she would have won in a squeaker.

There is no doubt about it though, that in spite of my pessimistic expectations, it does hurt to know that she lost to the worst person possible. She probably would have lost to 50% of any of the other Republicans that ran that year too, but they just happened to have nominated the most reprehensible one possible. And I would have felt that same way if Sanders, or whomever else was nominated too. Hell, everyone at a minimum should be at least sort of pissed that the candidate who got more votes lost!

So don't think I'm sort of deluded worshiper of her's, or that most other Clinton supporters are either.
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« Reply #1555 on: June 26, 2019, 07:57:19 PM »

I'm wondering how Clinton bots feel when they wake up each morning knowing their allmighty candidate got sent to the dustbin of history by a guy who can barely formulate a sentence.

I don't know if I'm a "Clinton bot" per se, but I did vote for her in the primary and probably like her more than the average person. But I for one think everyone should wake up with a sense of dread like I do in Trump's America, regardless of what you thought of Clinton.

As much as I supported her, I always thought she was vulnerable to lose in 2016 almost entirely due to the eight year itch. Thankfully she was gifted with what, at the time, seemed like a blessing with Trump being nominated by the GOP. I thought going up against him would be her best chance to win, other than someone like Cruz perhaps. As the election went on though, and I saw how Trump managed to effectively manipulate so many Americans, I knew it was going to be a close election. Trump's unorthodox persona proved to be very difficult to run against. At various times I thought she would win like during the debates and the Access Hollywood tape's relevance, and at others I thought she would lose like when she collapsed from pneumonia and the Comey press conference. Unfortunately, it was that last thing that I believe did her in for good. Had that happened at an earlier time, or had the election taken place some other time, I think she would have won in a squeaker.

There is no doubt about it though, that in spite of my pessimistic expectations, it does hurt to know that she lost to the worst person possible. She probably would have lost to 50% of any of the other Republicans that ran that year too, but they just happened to have nominated the most reprehensible one possible. And I would have felt that same way if Sanders, or whomever else was nominated too. Hell, everyone at a minimum should be at least sort of pissed that the candidate who got more votes lost!

So don't think I'm sort of deluded worshiper of her's, or that most other Clinton supporters are either.

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« Reply #1556 on: June 26, 2019, 08:56:01 PM »

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Bernie Sanders wouldn't commit to dropping out of the race before the convention if he were not the nominee and said some people say he would've beat Trump "if the system weren't rigged against me."  with @kasie

The good people of Iowa need to give him fourth or fifth place finish.

Bury this asshole before he tries to **** everyone over with his vanity campaign.

You okay?
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« Reply #1557 on: June 26, 2019, 10:26:18 PM »

Why should he drop out before the convention? What if it is a hung house with no one getting a majority?

Why are people asking idiotic questions & posting stupid replies. If you are dumb, then don't go on posting & embarrassing yourself. The chances of no1 getting 51% of the delegates is quite high in such a diverse field.
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« Reply #1558 on: June 26, 2019, 11:31:05 PM »

Why should he drop out before the convention? What if it is a hung house with no one getting a majority?

Why are people asking idiotic questions & posting stupid replies. If you are dumb, then don't go on posting & embarrassing yourself. The chances of no1 getting 51% of the delegates is quite high in such a diverse field.

Because the question was whether he'd drop out if he were not the nominee, so the question inherently presumes there's already a presumptive nominee going into the (non-contested) convention.

Maybe you'd have known that if you'd spent a little more time reading the question & a little less time formulating ways to call your fellow posters idiotic, stupid, & dumb.
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« Reply #1559 on: June 27, 2019, 01:28:17 AM »

Why should he drop out before the convention? What if it is a hung house with no one getting a majority?

Why are people asking idiotic questions & posting stupid replies. If you are dumb, then don't go on posting & embarrassing yourself. The chances of no1 getting 51% of the delegates is quite high in such a diverse field.

Because the question was whether he'd drop out if he were not the nominee, so the question inherently presumes there's already a presumptive nominee going into the (non-contested) convention.

Maybe you'd have known that if you'd spent a little more time reading the question & a little less time formulating ways to call your fellow posters idiotic, stupid, & dumb.

These people can't comprehend the notion that Saint Bernie might not be the nominee.
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« Reply #1560 on: June 27, 2019, 11:54:50 AM »

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Bernie Sanders wouldn't commit to dropping out of the race before the convention if he were not the nominee and said some people say he would've beat Trump "if the system weren't rigged against me."  with @kasie

Ah yes, it was totally rigged... if by rigged, of course, he means that his opponent was significantly more popular with primary voters &, thus, earned 4 million more votes, then yep, definitely rigged.

Inb4 jfern mentions David Brock.


Neera Tanden, the DNC, black primary voters, Tom Watson, blah blah blah blah....
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« Reply #1561 on: June 27, 2019, 04:34:47 PM »

https://www.twitch.tv/bernie_sanders
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« Reply #1562 on: June 27, 2019, 09:41:19 PM »

I can't wait to see the Bros defend Sanders performance tonight and how he won.
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« Reply #1563 on: June 27, 2019, 10:14:49 PM »

I can't wait to see the Bros defend Sanders performance tonight and how he won.

I thought Bernie was fine. Didn't set the stage alight but his target audience will like what he said.
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« Reply #1564 on: June 27, 2019, 10:15:35 PM »

Sanders did terribly tonight. He could have made good points several times, but failed to.
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« Reply #1565 on: June 27, 2019, 10:17:22 PM »

We get it. A lot of Atlas just hates Bernie. You are not representative of primary voters.
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« Reply #1566 on: June 27, 2019, 10:18:53 PM »

Sanders didn't do badly. Harris did better, but he did far better than Biden did lol.
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« Reply #1567 on: June 27, 2019, 10:20:11 PM »

We get it. A lot of Atlas just hates Bernie. You are not representative of primary voters.

I don't "just hate" Bernie, I've been one of his consistent defenders on this site. But there's no mistaking it, he lost tonight's debate.
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« Reply #1568 on: June 27, 2019, 10:25:47 PM »

We get it. A lot of Atlas just hates Bernie. You are not representative of primary voters.
Oh spare me the persecution complex when everyone is saying how great Kamala was while most Atlas poster freaked out at all of her answers
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« Reply #1569 on: June 27, 2019, 10:29:56 PM »

Bernie's response to Biden on Iraq and his closing were excellent, but his overall performance was not that remarkable. He was giving his standard pitch and nothing more.
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« Reply #1570 on: June 27, 2019, 10:57:44 PM »

We get it. A lot of Atlas just hates Bernie. You are not representative of primary voters.

I don't "just hate" Bernie, I've been one of his consistent defenders on this site. But there's no mistaking it, he lost tonight's debate.

Take off your blinders. He didn't lose or win.
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« Reply #1571 on: June 27, 2019, 10:58:31 PM »

He performed well for the most part.

Obviously Harris won the debate and Biden was the big loser.

Anyone who thinks Sanders did worse than Biden needs to lay off the crack pipe for a bit.
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« Reply #1572 on: June 27, 2019, 10:59:41 PM »

I wouldn't say he "won", but I think it was a pretty standard/average performance on his part. Probably won't change his numbers much.
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« Reply #1573 on: June 27, 2019, 11:05:03 PM »

Sorry, I only watched the 2nd half but in that half Bernie was awful. The only time he was asked to speak in depth in an area outside his wheelhouse was Roe v Wade, and he said he'd rotate judges (wtf?) and then went on to wrongly state that Medicare for all codifies Roe into law. Literally incoherent.
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« Reply #1574 on: June 28, 2019, 01:12:24 AM »


Post of the year.
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