Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[KaiserDave]

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”

Eh

She's out

[here2view]

I think it's down to Harris, Rice, and either Warren/Duckworth. Bass is a laughable pick that I never gave much possibility to happening. I also think Rice's chances are overstated but that's just my two cents.

[BidenHarris2020]

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”

I think this effectively eliminates her. "Simpatico"

[brucejoel99]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

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[BidenHarris2020]

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”

Eh

She's out

Imagine having to explain your policy differences with the top of the ticket(especially on something as contentious as M4A), every interview/vp debate. Yikes

[BidenHarris2020]

Question, is Warren's stance on M4A the same as it was during the primary? Or has she moderated a bit in an attempt move to the center..

[BidenHarris2020]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19 hmm

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19 hmm

I have no problem with this statement

This is kinda of a weak swipe on Duckworth

and I don't even support picking her

[BidenHarris2020]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19
 hmm

I have no problem with this statement

This is kinda of a weak swipe on Duckworth

and I don't even support picking her

agree.
I'm watching her interview with Chris Wallace right now. She was pretty solid. Tbh.

[Bidenworth2020]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19
 hmm

I have no problem with this statement

This is kinda of a weak swipe on Duckworth

and I don't even support picking her

agree.
I'm watching her interview with Chris Wallace right now. She was pretty solid. Tbh.

Send a link if you find one!

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19 hmm

What the heck did he expect her to say? That she supports violent protestors?
Some people really live in fantasy world.

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/AdamGreen/status/1289955970551107586?s=19 hmm

What the heck did he expect her to say? That she supports violent protestors?
Some people really live in fantasy world.

Biden also literally said he condemns the anarchist rioters lmao. He's also made clear that the majority of protests are peaceful.

[BidenHarris2020]

Any other vp contenders making the talkshow rounds today, part from Duckworth/Bass?

[GeneralMacArthur]

The PNW is Ground Zero for the violent protests and I can tell you it's definitely not right-wing instigators.  Here's the pattern:

Protesters:  Start a protest and let anarchists hang out with them
Anarchists:  Smash a bunch of sh**t and light buildings on fire
Protesters:  Our protest was peaceful.  It was right-wing instigators.
Anarchists:  Hell yeah we did it and we'll do it again tomorrow!
...
Protesters:  Why won't the police just let us do whatever we want?

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

This message has been brought to you by the Society of People who Think that Words Should Mean Something.

Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

[brucejoel99]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

This message has been brought to you by the Society of People who Think that Words Should Mean Something.

Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

By otherwise mentioning only Harris & Whitmer (both of whom were actually elected to state-level offices: CA state AG & MI Governor, respectively), Devils30 seemed to be alluding to experience in state-level office (which Duckworth doesn't have), not just experience being listed on a statewide ballot (which all three have). To my eye, Devils30 seemed to be (incorrectly) making the argument that Duckworth & Whitmer's state-level experience was somehow better than Harris', which would be incorrect given that the former has no state-level experience apart from Director of the state's VA. It'd make no sense for Devils30 to be making the argument that any one of them is better than any other at being listed on a statewide ballot, because they *all* have experience being listed on statewide ballots.

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

This message has been brought to you by the Society of People who Think that Words Should Mean Something.

Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

By otherwise mentioning only Harris & Whitmer (both of whom were actually elected to state-level offices: CA state AG & MI Governor, respectively), Devils30 seemed to be alluding to experience in state-level office (which Duckworth doesn't have), not just experience being listed on a statewide ballot (which all three have). To my eye, Devils30 seemed to be (incorrectly) making the argument that Duckworth & Whitmer's state-level experience was somehow better than Harris', which would be incorrect given that the former has no state-level experience apart from Director of the state's VA. It'd make no sense for Devils30 to be making the argument that any one of them is better than any other at being listed on a statewide ballot, because they *all* have experience being listed on statewide ballots.

Ah, I see. In that case, you're right. Honestly, I don't think levels of experience really matters when it comes to Duckworth/Harris. Both of them are plenty qualified, although I'd argue Duckworth's federal experience better prepares her for the presidency than Harris' DA and AG stuff. Whitmer is honestly not as qualified, only having 2 years as Governor definitely hurts her.

[Devils30]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

This message has been brought to you by the Society of People who Think that Words Should Mean Something.

Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

By otherwise mentioning only Harris & Whitmer (both of whom were actually elected to state-level offices: CA state AG & MI Governor, respectively), Devils30 seemed to be alluding to experience in state-level office (which Duckworth doesn't have), not just experience being listed on a statewide ballot (which all three have). To my eye, Devils30 seemed to be (incorrectly) making the argument that Duckworth & Whitmer's state-level experience was somehow better than Harris', which would be incorrect given that the former has no state-level experience apart from Director of the state's VA. It'd make no sense for Devils30 to be making the argument that any one of them is better than any other at being listed on a statewide ballot, because they *all* have experience being listed on statewide ballots.

I wasn’t arguing either has better statewide experience than Harris but similar. Whitmer is the only one with true executive experience, something that can’t hurt today. I’m just saying that if Biden decides he doesn’t want Harris that these two are pretty logical choices.

[politics_king]

After all this stuff going on in the past couple weeks, it's clear as day who Joe Biden needs to pick. While I was on the KLB train for most of this and I believed Susan Rice to be an interesting choice. It's still clear to me who needs to be the pick for VP and while everyone who wanted Warren (It would be a solid choice) probably has come to terms it won't be her. Joe Biden needs to pick Kamala Harris as his VP, she has the backing of the majority, her work as a DA & AG should be a positive with the message Biden is trying to push and Kamala Harris has worked very hard since becoming U.S. Senator along with her experience in National campaigns. The choice is clear and BidenWorld needs to wrap their collective head around it.

[Beet]

Corrupt Kamala would be a disaster. Its dreadful.

[BidenHarris2020]

Corrupt Kamala would be a disaster. Its dreadful.

Let it out, chile.

[Mr. Morden]

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."

[BidenHarris2020]

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."

She realized that NOW? After 16 trips to Cuba? And being a sitting Congresswoman for almost a decade? Give me a break. What a joke. The campaign doesn't need this distraction.

[WD]

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."

She realized that NOW? After 16 trips to Cuba? And being a sitting Congresswoman for almost a decade? Give me a break. What a joke. The campaign doesn't need this distraction.

Yeah, this is obvious damage control. Bass won’t be VP.

[BidenHarris2020]

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."

She realized that NOW? After 16 trips to Cuba? And being a sitting Congresswoman for almost a decade? Give me a break. What a joke. The campaign doesn't need this distraction.

Yeah, this is obvious damage control. Bass won’t be VP.

Chris Dodd must feel like an (even bigger) idiot.
The way this all backfired is freaking hilarious.