Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[BidenHarris2020]

At this point I'm expecting Joe to just announce at the convention lmao

I am..intrigued at this idea. More so , how it would work.

[Devils30]

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.

No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.

[Tender Branson]

Pick Demings, Duckworth or Harris ... and get it over with Joe !

Rice and Bass are a joke.

[BidenHarris2020]

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.

No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.

Losing one's legs does not automatically mean "a better life story"

[Devils30]

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.

No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.

Losing one's legs does not automatically mean "a better life story"

I’m gonna bet losing ones legs in war is just a bit more compelling to average folks than getting political appointments from a guy you’re dating who’s 30 years older.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.

No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.

Losing one's legs does not automatically mean "a better life story"

No, but it does mean “a better life story” than Kamala Harris. Can you name a single thing more interesting in Harris’ background than a helicopter pilot who lost her legs in service to her country?

[Ferguson97]

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.

No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.

Losing one's legs does not automatically mean "a better life story"

I’m gonna bet losing ones legs in war is just a bit more compelling to average folks than getting political appointments from a guy you’re dating who’s 30 years older.

You don't have to like Kamala but stop with this misogynistic bullsh**t

[DrScholl]

Some of the posts in this thread show exactly why sexism plays a major factor in political races. I don't recall any male candidates for VP being this scrutinized personally.

Biden doesn't need to select Duckworth to try and extract sympathy votes from people. This isn't any disrespect for Duckworth, but her management and elective experience is a lot shorter than some of the others on the list.

[BlueSwan]

Hot take:

This selection is not very important at all with regards to this particular election, but very important for the future. Biden's VP is highly likely to be the 47th president of the USA.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510128-kamala-harris-to-young-black-women-at-conference-i-want-you-to-be-ambitious

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who is in consideration to be former Vice President Joe Biden’s running mate, appeared to respond to criticism that she was “too ambitious” on Friday while speaking to an audience of young Black women. 

"There will be a resistance to your ambition. There will be people who say to you, 'You are out of your lane,'" Harris said during a livestreamed conversation for the Black Women Lead 2020 conference, according to CNN.

"They are burdened by only having the capacity to see what has always been instead of what can be. But don't you let that burden you," she added. "I want you to be ambitious."

Sounds like an excellent message, should Biden follow through and pick Harris.

[Devils30]

Some of the posts in this thread show exactly why sexism plays a major factor in political races. I don't recall any male candidates for VP being this scrutinized personally.

Biden doesn't need to select Duckworth to try and extract sympathy votes from people. This isn't any disrespect for Duckworth, but her management and elective experience is a lot shorter than some of the others on the list.

Duckworth has been in the Senate as long as Kamala and spent 4 years in the House before. If management experience is the biggest thing, Biden’s got a Governor in Michigan waiting for him.

[Oryxslayer]

Hot take:

This selection is not very important at all with regards to this particular election, but very important for the future. Biden's VP is highly likely to be the 47th president of the USA.

This isn't a hot take. This is why the nomination process has ended up very contentious. Even in the event Biden loses, his VP choice will likely inherit a leading position in the party, a la Ryan in 2012.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

Historical coincidences aside, that "if it isn't Harris" is a pretty sizable qualifier, no?

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

Historical coincidences aside, that "if it isn't Harris" is a pretty sizable qualifier, no?

Yes, that was the end of a tweet thread where Nate said essentially: if Biden is OK with Harris, it's her; if not, it's probably Duckworth.  (I think the same thing.)

[Heebie Jeebie]

Hot take:

This selection is not very important at all with regards to this particular election, but very important for the future. Biden's VP is highly likely to be the 47th president of the USA.

What kind of president would each of the potential running mates be?  My hunch is that Harris, Duckworth, maybe even Warren would all be pretty similar in their approach to the presidency to Obama.

[Devils30]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

Historical coincidences aside, that "if it isn't Harris" is a pretty sizable qualifier, no?

Yes, that was the end of a tweet thread where Nate said essentially: if Biden is OK with Harris, it's her; if not, it's probably Duckworth.  (I think the same thing.)

It isn't clear but I could see a Harris---> Duckworth----> Whitmer type of line with this type of thinking by Silver.

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

Historical coincidences aside, that "if it isn't Harris" is a pretty sizable qualifier, no?

Yes, that was the end of a tweet thread where Nate said essentially: if Biden is OK with Harris, it's her; if not, it's probably Duckworth.  (I think the same thing.)

Duckworth greatest strength was always the fact that (unless vetting found something we don't know) she is the embodiment of the do-no-harm principle. While there might be a stronger case for some of the other short-listers of why Biden should pick them, there is no strong case of why he shouldn't pick Duckworth.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/WaltHickey/status/1289760946542587904

Historical coincidences aside, that "if it isn't Harris" is a pretty sizable qualifier, no?

Yes, that was the end of a tweet thread where Nate said essentially: if Biden is OK with Harris, it's her; if not, it's probably Duckworth.  (I think the same thing.)

Duckworth greatest strength was always the fact that (unless vetting found something we don't know) she is the embodiment of the do-no-harm principle. While there might be a stronger case for some of the other short-listers of why Biden should pick them, there is no strong case of why he shouldn't pick Duckworth.

I'd say Harris AND Duckworth are apparently do no harm though. People like to make a lot about Harris's record but a lot of is conjecture and misinformation. Not to mention, there would be leaks about anything that we didn't already know and there hasn't been, so much of Harris's "issues" have also been litigated in the public already.

[Mr. Morden]

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1289952156401901571

[Devils30]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

[brucejoel99]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

[The Other Castro]

Could just be some short term market manipulation, but the August 2-8 announcement bracket on the PredictIt VP market is spiking, up 23 cents just now, currently at 43%.