Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1287157439385804805
Big event tomorrow VP could be announced then possibly

Sara Bareilles would definitely help boost Biden's numbers with young voters. Great VP choice

I'm not sure she would. I'm young and have never heard of her.

[Mr. Morden]

It’s 6 days until August 1. Can’t tell if that’s inside information or just him thinking August 1 is the day. 

It seems clear that this is the latter.  If it were really the case that Biden had definitively settled on an Aug. 1st announcement, *and* that his people were openly saying that to peeps like this, then we would have already heard this from other sources as well.

[Devils30]

It’s 6 days until August 1. Can’t tell if that’s inside information or just him thinking August 1 is the day. 

It seems clear that this is the latter.  If it were really the case that Biden had definitively settled on an Aug. 1st announcement, *and* that his people were openly saying that to peeps like this, then we would have already heard this from other sources as well.

Yeah. Saturday also seems like a weird day to do an announcement like this.

[Rookie Yinzer]

He’s not announcing until the week of the convention. We’ve gotten this far. He should let the GOP failing on a relief package continue to the dominate the news tbh.

[BidenHarris2020]

Just got an email from the Campaign. It's coming!!!!!!

The timing of this email has me thinking the announcement is imminent. 1 maybe 2 weeks.

[OneJ]

Is it really that horrible a move for Biden to announce on the 1st compared to the 17th/18th?

I'm almost inclined to think that folks don't want Biden to announce his running mate until that person walks towards the podium on the 19th (Which honestly does sound exciting) or the day before the first ballots gets mailed

Agreed. Especially as this year's convention won't be the ordinary convention we're used to seeing.

[wbrocks67]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

Harris still appears to be in the pole position for the post: Interviews with more than four dozen elected officials, strategists, former Biden advisers and plugged-in donors said they think Harris is the closest Biden has to a “do no harm” option.

And people in three other competing camps privately said that while their candidates have a shot for VP, Harris is more likely to get the nod.

[Landslide Lyndon]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

[wbrocks67]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

Yeah, clearly the fact that he leaked a part of her interview shows that he's got some vendetta against her. The Bass thing makes sense since he's been trying to elevate her apparently.

[Devils30]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

Yeah, clearly the fact that he leaked a part of her interview shows that he's got some vendetta against her. The Bass thing makes sense since he's been trying to elevate her apparently.

Biden needs a better pick than Karen Bass. Duckworth and Demings both have good stories but if he doesn’t like them, he really should even be considering MLG and Whitmer.

[Landslide Lyndon]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

Yeah, clearly the fact that he leaked a part of her interview shows that he's got some vendetta against her. The Bass thing makes sense since he's been trying to elevate her apparently.

Here is a more sinister theory: Biden wants to pick Rice. But he knows that Harris is much more popular among the Democratic establishment, and voters. So he tries to undermine her by putting his senate pal Chris Dodd to sh**t-talk her and smooth the way for Rice.

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

Yeah, clearly the fact that he leaked a part of her interview shows that he's got some vendetta against her. The Bass thing makes sense since he's been trying to elevate her apparently.

Here is a more sinister theory: Biden wants to pick Rice. But he knows that Harris is much more popular among the Democratic establishment, and voters. So he tries to undermine her by putting his senate pal Chris Dodd to sh**t-talk her and smooth the way for Rice.

If the campaign does place a premium on “do no harm” then Rice would be out automatically

[wbrocks67]

This makes me think it's Harris. I feel like you know when the hit pieces start coming out that she's either a lock or nearly there.

At the same time, though, is this whole thing a joke? Dodd wanted "remorse" from Harris? Her answer was correct - this is politics. Is she supposed to somberly apologize for politics? There's no way these people are this naive??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/kamala-harris-biden-vp-381829

I have read elsewhere too that Dodd doesn't like Harris and that he was the one behind the Politico piece that called Bass the anti-Harris.

Yeah, clearly the fact that he leaked a part of her interview shows that he's got some vendetta against her. The Bass thing makes sense since he's been trying to elevate her apparently.

Here is a more sinister theory: Biden wants to pick Rice. But he knows that Harris is much more popular among the Democratic establishment, and voters. So he tries to undermine her by putting his senate pal Chris Dodd to sh**t-talk her and smooth the way for Rice.

If the campaign does place a premium on “do no harm” then Rice would be out automatically

This. Rice might even be more harm than Warren, tbh, and that's saying a lot. B/c at least Warren has *some* upsides that can try and counteract the negatives. I really don't see much upside with Rice at all.

[wbrocks67]

Also why is Dodd even leaking discussions? I get he wants to sway things, but does he realize that *any* leaks are going to look terrible on the Biden team in general?

[ProgressiveModerate]

It’s 6 days until August 1. Can’t tell if that’s inside information or just him thinking August 1 is the day. 

I believe that Joe Biden said he would pick a VP by August 1st on a news interview or something.

[wbrocks67]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

Abrams was never seriously considered by anyone but herself

That said, it’s certainly possible Biden has decided to pick someone else (which would be a mistake imo).

[Devils30]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

[wbrocks67]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

Dodd not liking Harris =/= Biden not liking Harris

Demings seems to have fallen off ever since her own POLITICO hit piece.

And since when is Bass favored by the left? I didn't think she was really favored by anybody but Chris Dodd.

[Devils30]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

Dodd not liking Harris =/= Biden not liking Harris

Demings seems to have fallen off ever since her own POLITICO hit piece.

And since when is Bass favored by the left? I didn't think she was really favored by anybody but Chris Dodd.

Dodd doesn't seem like the best person to be running this selection, lets be honest.

[wbrocks67]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

Dodd not liking Harris =/= Biden not liking Harris

Demings seems to have fallen off ever since her own POLITICO hit piece.

And since when is Bass favored by the left? I didn't think she was really favored by anybody but Chris Dodd.

Dodd doesn't seem like the best person to be running this selection, lets be honest.

Oh I 100% agree. And regardless of who is at his ire, it's really self-defeating for him to be leaking anything about *any* of the candidates right now. If he truly cared about getting Biden elected, he wouldn't be trying to harm him at all. Leaking conversations does just that.

[Sir Mohamed]

I would have waited longer, symbolism be damned. Biden doesn't need anything about the race to change yet. Adding any kind of unknown comes with some degree of risk.

I don't think it will make a difference in November whether he announces on Aug. 1 or Aug 16. If his VP pick were actually to cause a dip in the polls, she would do so regardless of the announcement date. By election day, nobody would care about the timing of the announcement any longer. It's much more important what pick Biden makes rather than when the selection is introduced.

[wbrocks67]

I would have waited longer, symbolism be damned. Biden doesn't need anything about the race to change yet. Adding any kind of unknown comes with some degree of risk.

I don't think it will make a difference in November whether he announces on Aug. 1 or Aug 16. If his VP pick were actually to cause a dip in the polls, she would do so regardless of the announcement date. By election day, nobody would care about the timing of the announcement any longer. It's much more important what pick Biden makes rather than when the selection is introduced.

Yeah, as long at it's August is all that matters because of the symbolism of the month

[Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi]

Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

Dodd not liking Harris =/= Biden not liking Harris

Demings seems to have fallen off ever since her own POLITICO hit piece.

And since when is Bass favored by the left? I didn't think she was really favored by anybody but Chris Dodd.

Dodd doesn't seem like the best person to be running this selection, lets be honest.

Agreed. Chris Dodd should not be involved in any way, given his history of corruption and sexual assault allegations.