Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Devils30]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

[wbrocks67]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

What is the proof of this, though? There's nothing to prove that Duckworth would add anything to swing voters that someone else wouldn't. And honestly, the only person that I think would seriously deter swing voters would be Warren, just b/c she's extremely polarizing. Moderate voters would probably be fine with most of the others in the end.

Also, Warren is white and Rice and Harris are black... obviously. Not saying they should be chosen *just* for that reason, but they obviously appeal to an entire demographic that is obviously Dem-leaning, but it's just different scenarios. They offer the ticket diversity. Warren doesn't.

[Da2017]

Bass would be a risky choice. Her praise for Castro could be a problem.

[brucejoel99]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

Literally yesterday:

Data for Progress: Warren, Harris Top Poll of Battleground Independents for Biden VP & Independent voters cite handling of economy as top issue to guide Biden VP choice; Rank Elizabeth Warren Most Effective on Economy by More Than 3-to-1

[Horsemask]

I hate to be "that guy" constantly asking questions that have probably been answered. But assuming it is Warren, how would things look with her Senate seat? I'm not sure what Massachusetts does in a situation like that.

The governor appoints her replacement, but Democrats have a supermajority in the legislature and could force him to appoint a Democrat.

Thank you!

[Beet]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

What is the proof of this, though? There's nothing to prove that Duckworth would add anything to swing voters that someone else wouldn't. And honestly, the only person that I think would seriously deter swing voters would be Warren, just b/c she's extremely polarizing. Moderate voters would probably be fine with most of the others in the end.

Also, Warren is white and Rice and Harris are black... obviously. Not saying they should be chosen *just* for that reason, but they obviously appeal to an entire demographic that is obviously Dem-leaning, but it's just different scenarios. They offer the ticket diversity. Warren doesn't.

This is ridiculous. Warren would be a woman, that isn't ticket diversity? As a white woman, Warren represents a huge demographic, bigger than even Latinos or Blacks, and they also tend to be a swing demographic. Also I keep seeing this claim that she's "extremely polarizing" with zero evidence that that's the case.

The reality is most people aren't going to be voting on the identity of the VP, they are going to be voting on who they think is going to be in their best interest. The top issue by November is likely going to be the economy, so Biden needs a candidate who can offer credible solutions on the economy. He needs someone who can talk to people about their bread and butter issues competently. That's Warren.

[wbrocks67]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

What is the proof of this, though? There's nothing to prove that Duckworth would add anything to swing voters that someone else wouldn't. And honestly, the only person that I think would seriously deter swing voters would be Warren, just b/c she's extremely polarizing. Moderate voters would probably be fine with most of the others in the end.

Also, Warren is white and Rice and Harris are black... obviously. Not saying they should be chosen *just* for that reason, but they obviously appeal to an entire demographic that is obviously Dem-leaning, but it's just different scenarios. They offer the ticket diversity. Warren doesn't.

This is ridiculous. Warren would be a woman, that isn't ticket diversity? As a white woman, Warren represents a huge demographic, bigger than even Latinos or Blacks, and they also tend to be a swing demographic. Also I keep seeing this claim that she's "extremely polarizing" with zero evidence that that's the case.

The reality is most people aren't going to be voting on the identity of the VP, they are going to be voting on who they think is going to be in their best interest. The top issue by November is likely going to be the economy, so Biden needs a candidate who can offer credible solutions on the economy. He needs someone who can talk to people about their bread and butter issues competently. That's Warren.

Warren is a 70 year old white woman. To be on a ticket with a 77 year old white man would be a total slap in the face to minority voters everywhere. Not to mention, only liberals really like Warren. She IS polarizing to the same swatch of suburbia that helped propel the 2018 win.

[Beet]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

What is the proof of this, though? There's nothing to prove that Duckworth would add anything to swing voters that someone else wouldn't. And honestly, the only person that I think would seriously deter swing voters would be Warren, just b/c she's extremely polarizing. Moderate voters would probably be fine with most of the others in the end.

Also, Warren is white and Rice and Harris are black... obviously. Not saying they should be chosen *just* for that reason, but they obviously appeal to an entire demographic that is obviously Dem-leaning, but it's just different scenarios. They offer the ticket diversity. Warren doesn't.

This is ridiculous. Warren would be a woman, that isn't ticket diversity? As a white woman, Warren represents a huge demographic, bigger than even Latinos or Blacks, and they also tend to be a swing demographic. Also I keep seeing this claim that she's "extremely polarizing" with zero evidence that that's the case.

The reality is most people aren't going to be voting on the identity of the VP, they are going to be voting on who they think is going to be in their best interest. The top issue by November is likely going to be the economy, so Biden needs a candidate who can offer credible solutions on the economy. He needs someone who can talk to people about their bread and butter issues competently. That's Warren.

Warren is a 70 year old white woman. To be on a ticket with a 77 year old white man would be a total slap in the face to minority voters everywhere. Not to mention, only liberals really like Warren. She IS polarizing to the same swatch of suburbia that helped propel the 2018 win.

Please stop speaking for all minorities. Poll after poll has already shown that minorities don't want someone to be picked just because of their race. I'm sick of this woke condescension being pushed by a small minority of Twitter activists who falsely claim to speak our opinions. I like Warren because she is the best woman in terms of ideas and policies for fixing the problems that caused Trump.

[brucejoel99]

I just don't see who Warren appeals to who is not already a partisan Dem. Same goes for Rice, Harris alike. At least on the fence veterans would appreciate Duckworth.

What is the proof of this, though? There's nothing to prove that Duckworth would add anything to swing voters that someone else wouldn't. And honestly, the only person that I think would seriously deter swing voters would be Warren, just b/c she's extremely polarizing. Moderate voters would probably be fine with most of the others in the end.

Also, Warren is white and Rice and Harris are black... obviously. Not saying they should be chosen *just* for that reason, but they obviously appeal to an entire demographic that is obviously Dem-leaning, but it's just different scenarios. They offer the ticket diversity. Warren doesn't.

This is ridiculous. Warren would be a woman, that isn't ticket diversity? As a white woman, Warren represents a huge demographic, bigger than even Latinos or Blacks, and they also tend to be a swing demographic. Also I keep seeing this claim that she's "extremely polarizing" with zero evidence that that's the case.

The reality is most people aren't going to be voting on the identity of the VP, they are going to be voting on who they think is going to be in their best interest. The top issue by November is likely going to be the economy, so Biden needs a candidate who can offer credible solutions on the economy. He needs someone who can talk to people about their bread and butter issues competently. That's Warren.

Warren is a 70 year old white woman. To be on a ticket with a 77 year old white man would be a total slap in the face to minority voters everywhere. Not to mention, only liberals really like Warren. She IS polarizing to the same swatch of suburbia that helped propel the 2018 win.

Again with this?

Data for Progress: Warren, Harris Top Poll of Battleground Independents for Biden VP & Independent voters cite handling of economy as top issue to guide Biden VP choice; Rank Elizabeth Warren Most Effective on Economy by More Than 3-to-1

[politics_king]

Election Betting Odds have Harris at 36%, Rice at 25%, Duckworth at 10%, Warren at 7% and Demings at 6%. Harris over the last couple weeks has dropped over 10% when she was pushing 50%. She will be on The Reid Out today at 7ET/4PT, usually these pundit shows are auditions for messaging. Duckworth did CNN this afternoon and did well.

I think you keep an eye on Bass because she's doing a lot of the Zoom Fundraising, I definitely think she'll get a Cabinet position. Like I continue to say, I'll be happy with whoever he chooses, but I still think he'll choose Susan Rice if this is really a ready to step in on Day One choice. I also continue to believe that Benghazi is overblown for Susan Rice, no one has still been able to mention any of the other "skeleton's" in her closet.

[Ferguson97]

At the end of the day, Biden's lead is strong and consistent enough over Trump that I don't think his VP is going to make or break his win or even any state.

Duckworth, Bass, Harris, Duckworth, and Warren are all from safe Demcoratic states. Rice doesn't seem to be super tied to a state and I don't know if Demings has statewide appeal/name recognition.

Considering if they can run in 2024 and who'd be best for the job and potentially taking over at a moment's notice is far more relevant IMO.

[Rookie Yinzer]

It's not going to be a 70 year old WW who pretended to be Native American for decades. Not in this climate.

I halfway hope it's Duckworth so all the stans can just STFU. (Yes, I'm acknowledging there are some K-Hive that need... help.)

[Devils30]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

[brucejoel99]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

That excuse could've made sense in April, but the Veepstakes have been going on for nearly 4 months now. Come up with a better (baseless) excuse next time.

[wbrocks67]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

Harris has led in most of the recent ones

[Devils30]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

That excuse could've made sense in April, but the Veepstakes have been going on for nearly 4 months now. Come up with a better (baseless) excuse next time.

A handful of 12 minute interviews on a TV show does not get Duckworth, Whitmer, Demings the same name recognition as running a yearlong campaign.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

I halfway hope it's Duckworth so all the stans can just STFU. (Yes, I'm acknowledging there are some K-Hive that need... help.)

All I need in life to be happy is Kamala living on Observatory Circle.

[DisneyDem]

Bass would be a risky choice. Her praise for Castro could be a problem.

George will of all people actually address this. He pointed out that she is on the board of the national endowment for democracy which has done more for dissonance in Cuba then almost anyone. George hates Trump, but he does not automatically like all Democrats. If this is good enough for him, it will be good enough for everybody else. This whole issue is a nothing burger

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Bass would be a risky choice. Her praise for Castro could be a problem.

George will of all people actually address this. He pointed out that she is on the board of the national endowment for democracy which has done more for dissonance in Cuba then almost anyone. George hates Trump, but he does not automatically like all Democrats. If this is good enough for him, it will be good enough for everybody else. This whole issue is a nothing burger

George Will isn’t an expert on Cuban voters in Florida.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

[Devils30]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

I'm sure this is going to impact his pick...not.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

That excuse could've made sense in April, but the Veepstakes have been going on for nearly 4 months now. Come up with a better (baseless) excuse next time.

Other than political junkies, who's been paying attention to the Veepstakes?  Most people have better things to do than to speculate on a decision they literally have no say on. 

[Devils30]

Warren leading in VP polls is nothing more than name recognition.

That excuse could've made sense in April, but the Veepstakes have been going on for nearly 4 months now. Come up with a better (baseless) excuse next time.

Other than political junkies, who's been paying attention to the Veepstakes?  Most people have better things to do than to speculate on a decision they literally have no say on. 

Exactly my point. That’s why no one should be surprised if he selects someone like Whitmer in the end.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/david_darmofal/status/1285738385445920769?s=20

Is this code for not Warren?

He knows Warren's "socialist" background would hurt his campaign, so another white male putting himself ahead of a woman possibly having a great opportunity. Classic neoliberalism.