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« Reply #225 on: April 19, 2018, 10:57:41 AM »

Nixon’s interview on Colbert:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_HohD8NVW3M

She comes across quite well, and her “Choose the better Nixon, not the worse Cuomo” punchline was entertaining. 
I agree with this. She came off as competent and well versed on the issues. Cuomo would be foolish to underestimate her. I worry about her chances in a general election though.
Man, it's New York. There's no statewide Republican bench there.

Republicans have a decent candidate in Dutchess County Executive Marcus Molinaro. John DeFrancisco shouldnt be underestimated either in a open seat against Nixon.
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« Reply #226 on: April 19, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »

As to the general election point, Nixon already has at least one general election line and if she continues onto the general after the primary as she has claimed she will, it could produce enough of a Ticket split for Molinaro to win especially if Cuomo continues to shoot himself in the foot
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« Reply #227 on: April 19, 2018, 11:06:30 AM »

As to the general election point, Nixon already has at least one general election line and if she continues onto the general after the primary as she has claimed she will, it could produce enough of a Ticket split for Molinaro to win especially if Cuomo continues to shoot himself in the foot

That concerns me a lot. if she loses the primary she should withdraw from the race to prevent that scenario.
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« Reply #228 on: April 19, 2018, 11:21:17 AM »

As to the general election point, Nixon already has at least one general election line and if she continues onto the general after the primary as she has claimed she will, it could produce enough of a Ticket split for Molinaro to win especially if Cuomo continues to shoot himself in the foot

That concerns me a lot. if she loses the primary she should withdraw from the race to prevent that scenario.

Ah yes. Very concerning. I am concerned.

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« Reply #229 on: April 19, 2018, 11:31:52 AM »

Very normal.



"Voters who don't support me are going to hell, folks."
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« Reply #230 on: April 19, 2018, 11:40:36 AM »

Very normal.



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« Reply #231 on: April 19, 2018, 11:51:43 AM »

As to the general election point, Nixon already has at least one general election line and if she continues onto the general after the primary as she has claimed she will, it could produce enough of a Ticket split for Molinaro to win especially if Cuomo continues to shoot himself in the foot

That concerns me a lot. if she loses the primary she should withdraw from the race to prevent that scenario.

Ah yes. Very concerning. I am concerned.



Tbh in a Clinton midterm w/Gibson I actually wouldn't be that surprised

Molinaro ain't nothin special however
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« Reply #232 on: April 19, 2018, 11:55:14 AM »

Very normal.



"Voters who don't support me are going to hell, folks."

He needs to lose. 
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« Reply #233 on: April 19, 2018, 06:33:13 PM »

Nixon’s interview on Colbert:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_HohD8NVW3M

She comes across quite well, and her “Choose the better Nixon, not the worse Cuomo” punchline was entertaining. 
I agree with this. She came off as competent and well versed on the issues. Cuomo would be foolish to underestimate her. I worry about her chances in a general election though.
Man, it's New York. There's no statewide Republican bench there.

Republicans have a decent candidate in Dutchess County Executive Marcus Molinaro. John DeFrancisco shouldnt be underestimated either in a open seat against Nixon.

In 2018? Not a prayer.
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« Reply #234 on: April 19, 2018, 06:34:34 PM »

As to the general election point, Nixon already has at least one general election line and if she continues onto the general after the primary as she has claimed she will, it could produce enough of a Ticket split for Molinaro to win especially if Cuomo continues to shoot himself in the foot

Okay, that has at least more chance, but even then Cuomo wins. Again, it's 2018
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« Reply #235 on: April 19, 2018, 07:05:53 PM »

NYT: Cuomo Plans to Restore Voting Rights to Paroled Felons

And a perfect observation of this whole primary race:


Wow wow wow it's almost as if primarying politicians from the left produces good results even if the more progressive candidate loses wow.

The 2016 Presidential election would like a word. I'm not saying it was entirely Sanders' fault but it kind of contradicts that assertion. Otherwise I would probably agree with you in most cases.
Bernie didn't cost Hillary the election.

I didn't say that he did. Just that his primary from the left wasn't all that helpful as publicunofficial suggested. Maybe he meant for primarying an incumbent. In a way Clinton ran as a continuation of Obama, so I figured the 2016 election should count to.
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« Reply #236 on: April 19, 2018, 09:29:11 PM »

lol Cuomo is going to lose isn't he
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« Reply #237 on: April 19, 2018, 09:42:54 PM »

At this point I don't even care too much about the ultimate fate of Andrew Cuomo. My emotional investment in this race is now entirely rooted in me literally requiring Cynthia Nixon to achieve high office.

I love her so much.

We are all Mirandas now.
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« Reply #238 on: April 19, 2018, 09:46:12 PM »

Puts on my atlas hat

alright guys Cynthia Nixon is the Dem version of Ronald Reagan, explained...
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« Reply #239 on: April 19, 2018, 09:47:00 PM »

Very normal.



But no punishment for the IDC that he had to get to pretend to be Democrats for the next 6 months. Such a hypocrite.
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« Reply #240 on: April 19, 2018, 09:48:21 PM »

Very normal.



But no punishment for the IDC that he had to get to pretend to be Democrats for the next 6 months. Such a hypocrite.

Forget the IDC....Cuomo signed off in the most gerrymandered state Senate in the US

For that reason alone the bum should be thrown out
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« Reply #241 on: April 20, 2018, 01:16:56 PM »

"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.
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« Reply #242 on: April 20, 2018, 01:23:12 PM »

"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.

I don't think that a bunch of corrupt bosses who are chummy with Cuomo are representative of the labor left.
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« Reply #243 on: April 20, 2018, 01:31:12 PM »
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"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.

I don't think that a bunch of corrupt bosses who are chummy with Cuomo are representative of the labor left.

So union bosses are corrupt? Is that an official statement? Do we apply that to all union bosses or just the ones that support Cuomo? If we're only applying that to the ones that support Cuomo, that's a pretty poor argument unless you have evidence on these particular union bosses that demonstrates they are corrupt that we can pass on to the New York SBI.

Democrats' hold on labor has been weakening for some time. Obama did not give a sh**t about them and national labor bosses in 2012 said as much while still supporting the Democratic ticket. I also wonder how many union labor voters Trump won in the 2016 election - rank-and-file, not leadership. Tariffs is also a pro-union issue for a lot I'm thinking (I don't back tariffs, but I think a good number of rank-and-file union members do.) Public service labor's opinion of my local decade-long Democratic Party Mayor is he sold them out and threw them to the wolves (city council) to lose collective bargaining. They responded by not volunteering at Democratic Party campaign activities.

Get down into policies, progressives and labor voters are just diametrically opposed to one another on a number of issues. Otherwise, why is the WFP splitting? Progressives are Waxman and labor are Dingell to recall an infamous committee chair switch.
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« Reply #244 on: April 20, 2018, 07:33:43 PM »

I don't really hold it against the unions, although of course I would prefer them to stand up to Cuomo. The union bosses know that Cuomo is a vindictive control-freak and WILL retaliate, if he wins, against those who opposed him. The safe bet is him winning a 3rd term, so they are protecting themselves accordingly.

On another note, I was thinking about it earlier and Nixon should have at least some ability to self-fund if necessary. A quick google search shows her estimated net worth to be around $60 million, although who knows how accurate those celebrity net worth estimations actually are. She won't be able to match Cuomo's money but she should be able to get her message out, both through media coverage and campaign funds, neither of which Teachout had access to in 2014.  
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« Reply #245 on: April 21, 2018, 12:09:08 PM »

Nixon was very impressive on Colbert. Smart, funny, likable, and informed. She has a future in politics whether she wins this race or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HohD8NVW3M
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« Reply #246 on: April 21, 2018, 12:23:20 PM »

"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.

I don't think that a bunch of corrupt bosses who are chummy with Cuomo are representative of the labor left.

So union bosses are corrupt? Is that an official statement? Do we apply that to all union bosses or just the ones that support Cuomo? If we're only applying that to the ones that support Cuomo, that's a pretty poor argument unless you have evidence on these particular union bosses that demonstrates they are corrupt that we can pass on to the New York SBI.

Democrats' hold on labor has been weakening for some time. Obama did not give a sh**t about them and national labor bosses in 2012 said as much while still supporting the Democratic ticket. I also wonder how many union labor voters Trump won in the 2016 election - rank-and-file, not leadership. Tariffs is also a pro-union issue for a lot I'm thinking (I don't back tariffs, but I think a good number of rank-and-file union members do.) Public service labor's opinion of my local decade-long Democratic Party Mayor is he sold them out and threw them to the wolves (city council) to lose collective bargaining. They responded by not volunteering at Democratic Party campaign activities.

Get down into policies, progressives and labor voters are just diametrically opposed to one another on a number of issues. Otherwise, why is the WFP splitting? Progressives are Waxman and labor are Dingell to recall an infamous committee chair switch.

This is a deeply flawed argument.

Did you see the extremely high amount of union organizing for Connor Lamb in the PA-18 special election? You had both rank-and-file, and the union leadership coming out in heavy support for progressive democratic policies ($15 dollar minimum wage).

The argument about the inevitable conflict between the 'union left', and 'progressive left' is one that's been around the 1960s, and I'm always skeptical of the extend to which people take it. If you polled the vast majority of 'progressive' Democrats, and 'union' Democrats they'd agree on free trade being harmful, on a $15 minimum wage, and probably even on social issues like Gay Marriage, and Abortion.

This isn't 1968.

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The split in New York is not at all about policy. Andrew Cuomo is as much a social liberal as anyone, and is certainly not high on my list of 'union friendly' politicians. But he's a sitting Governor, with a national profile, a long contact book, and a large amount of money. Trade Union bosses aren't going to split from him to join Cynthia Nixon.

Even if someone with experience in NY politics, like De Blasio or Scheinderman was running against Cuomo, I wouldn't expect the unions to jump ship. These types of petty battles between surrogate groups happen in every Democratic Primary.
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« Reply #247 on: April 22, 2018, 12:42:58 AM »

A lot of people I know are registered as an independent or 3rd party and so are sh**t out of luck in voting in this primary thanks to New York's ridiculous laws that you had to change parties 11 months before the primary.
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« Reply #248 on: April 22, 2018, 01:06:46 AM »

A lot of people I know are registered as an independent or 3rd party and so are sh**t out of luck in voting in this primary thanks to New York's ridiculous laws that you had to change parties 11 months before the primary.

Wait seriously?

That's unfortunate.

And ridiculous.
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« Reply #249 on: April 22, 2018, 02:53:10 AM »

Yeah, New York has among the worst election laws in the country. It's awful.
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