2017 Virginia HoD Thread

[junior chįmp]

Holy cow. More victory.

Judge says....No stealing the election!

Link

Judge T.S. Ellis III of U.S. District Court in Alexandria declined to issue a preliminary injunction to stop Republican Bob Thomas from being sworn in as a delegate next Wednesday, saying the plaintiffs had not shown they were likely to prevail.

“I think the officials in these precincts made a reasonable decision to rely on the data they had,” Ellis said.

While he acknowledged that the mistake was “a big deal” to the affected voters, “there are other big deals,” including “federal courts sticking their noses into state election procedure.”

Meh.... we'll steal it next time. This is perfect training for younger less experienced legislators and candidates who are not yet versed in the realities of American politics. GOP = done!

[kph14]

Ugh. Reagan appointee. Disgraceful that these kind of people still endanger the American democracy. Looks like he doesn’t acknowledge federal interference like one person, one vote or the VRA

[Landslide Lyndon]

Holy cow. More victory.

Has your favorite kiddie diddler conceded yet?

[Holmes]

Well if you can stand by someone who rationalizes their decision with "the mistake is a big deal but there are other big deals too you know", then good on you. I mean, a line was crossed when you kept ferociously supporting a kiddy diddler when his crimes came to light so anything goes I guess.

[krazen1211]

Ugh. Reagan appointee. Disgraceful that these kind of people still endanger the American democracy. Looks like he doesn’t acknowledge federal interference like one person, one vote or the VRA

This district court of Virginia has roughly a 2/3 majority of Republican appointees. If one was going to attempt to steal an election, they should choose a better venue. Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

[Bidenworth2020]

Ugh. Reagan appointee. Disgraceful that these kind of people still endanger the American democracy. Looks like he doesn’t acknowledge federal interference like one person, one vote or the VRA

This district court of Virginia has roughly a 2/3 majority of Republican appointees. If one was going to attempt to steal an election, they should choose a better venue. Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

it was an overvote lmao

[Kamala]

Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

Pretty big talk for a party which couldn’t win a seat with the actual voters of a district.

[krazen1211]

Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

Pretty big talk for a party which couldn’t win a seat with the actual voters of a district.

Hmm? The GOP has won this seat many times. Often unopposed.

[KingSweden]

I’ve never understood how Krazen thinks Democrats exhausting legal remedies that are also available to Republicans is “stealing an election.” I mean, I get it, since he’s an uncritical hack, but seriously get some better material

[krazen1211]

Ugh. Reagan appointee. Disgraceful that these kind of people still endanger the American democracy. Looks like he doesn’t acknowledge federal interference like one person, one vote or the VRA

This district court of Virginia has roughly a 2/3 majority of Republican appointees. If one was going to attempt to steal an election, they should choose a better venue. Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

it was an overvote lmao

I am pretty sure you are confused and have the wrong seat, pal. Mr. Thomas won this election by far more than a single alleged 'overvote', which was of course thoroughly litigated by the judges.

Thomas beat Cole by 73 votes in House District 28, which includes parts of Fredericksburg and Stafford County.

[Holmes]

Ugh. Reagan appointee. Disgraceful that these kind of people still endanger the American democracy. Looks like he doesn’t acknowledge federal interference like one person, one vote or the VRA

This district court of Virginia has roughly a 2/3 majority of Republican appointees. If one was going to attempt to steal an election, they should choose a better venue. Alternatively, they could actually try to win the election straight up.

Well Democrats won 15 Republican-held districts two months ago straight up, not counting those in which shenanigans occurred.

[krazen1211]

The funny thing is, Simonds asked Yancey to make a deal where they respect the results of today's drawing, regardless of who won, and Yancey refused. Now a second recount is inevitable, Yancey is probably kicking himself right now for not making the deal.

But why on earth would anyone trust someone like Simonds to actually uphold such a deal?

[Frodo]

Enjoy your last two years in control of the Virginia General Assembly, Republicans. 

[Kamala]

The funny thing is, Simonds asked Yancey to make a deal where they respect the results of today's drawing, regardless of who won, and Yancey refused. Now a second recount is inevitable, Yancey is probably kicking himself right now for not making the deal.

But why on earth would anyone trust someone like Simonds to actually uphold such a deal?

Ah yes, everyone knows what they say about PTA moms. Can't trust them!

[Young Conservative]

Enjoy your last two years in control of the Virginia General Assembly, Republicans. 

It seems premature to assume 2019 will be just as much a Democrat year as 2017 or 2018.

[Devout Centrist]

Enjoy your last two years in control of the Virginia General Assembly, Republicans.  

It seems premature to assume 2019 will be just as much a Democrat year as 2017 or 2018.

It seems premature to assume that 2014 will be just as much a Republican year as 2010.

These things tend to snowball*

*Barring a flamboyant tough guy as Speaker, ofc

[Jeppe]

Democrats took control of the Virginia Senate in 2007 and won 4 more seats in the House of Delegates, so it wouldn’t be at all surprising if the Democrats did even better in 2019 than in 2017.

[Dr. MB]

Democrats took control of the Virginia Senate in 2007 and won 4 more seats in the House of Delegates, so it wouldn’t be at all surprising if the Democrats did even better in 2019 than in 2017.

It's a near guarantee they'll win control of both the senate and house next year (or are the senate elections this year?)... all that's up for debate is the margins.

Do special elections for state house happen in Virginia?

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Democrats took control of the Virginia Senate in 2007 and won 4 more seats in the House of Delegates, so it wouldn’t be at all surprising if the Democrats did even better in 2019 than in 2017.

It's a near guarantee they'll win control of both the senate and house next year (or are the senate elections this year?)... all that's up for debate is the margins.

Do special elections for state house happen in Virginia?

Yes, VA has special elections for both House and Senate.

[Virginiá]

Enjoy your last two years in control of the Virginia General Assembly, Republicans.  

It seems premature to assume 2019 will be just as much a Democrat year as 2017 or 2018.

They don't need to do better. They needed to over-perform in 2017 in part to knock off a bunch of incumbents, and now that they already cleared almost the entire GOP majority, it'll be easy to pick off a few extra seats in the HoD, especially considering that there are a number of Clinton/Northam districts to work with. The state Senate is even easier. But yes, there is no reason to think Democrats would just backslide right away. Presidents as unpopular as Trump have a tendency to keep the opposition party energized while they are in office.

Also consider that within the next couple months, we should know whether the HoD map is going to need to be redrawn to fix 11 or 12 districts, which should expand the map even more since Northam is not going to sign a fresh gerrymander for Republicans.

[junior chįmp]

A glimpse into what the elections of 2018 and beyond will look like at the federal level using the VA HoD elections as a guide:

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[OneJ]

Holy cow. More victory.

Judge says....No stealing the election!

Link

Judge T.S. Ellis III of U.S. District Court in Alexandria declined to issue a preliminary injunction to stop Republican Bob Thomas from being sworn in as a delegate next Wednesday, saying the plaintiffs had not shown they were likely to prevail.

“I think the officials in these precincts made a reasonable decision to rely on the data they had,” Ellis said.

While he acknowledged that the mistake was “a big deal” to the affected voters, “there are other big deals,” including “federal courts sticking their noses into state election procedure.”

One of your guys lost to a Socialist.

[Lachi]

This whole debacle is a very strong reason for having non-partsan and impartial courts. also, a strong argument against letting STATE LEGISLATURES pick judges.

[UncleSam]

Wait is Simonds not appealing this? Why would she not appeal / get one more recount?

[heatcharger]

PPP: Northam +15 approval in Republican-held districts he won

Wow, great poll!