Update Season X - "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas Vol. I."

[Mr. Morden]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Yes, of course, but I'm wanting to see if Bushie will actually admit that, or if he tries to weasel his way out and pretend that it isn't sexist.  e.g., "I ask for her father's permission because that's what people do in Oklahoma.  Doesn't mean it's the only way to do things, but it's the way I was brought up, and there's nothing wrong with it."

How about that?  Is Bushie clueless enough to post that, and not realize how ridiculous it is?  Why am I even asking?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

At least give it a month. I know how these meetings go....when you first met Tiffanye it was a few days until you were engaged and with Susan it was about the same, but this time at least get to know her a bit.

I know you won't, but this is my best advice. I can't wait for you all to meet!

[Joe Biden 2020]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

[Mr. Morden]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Will she ask your parents to hand over care of their baby boy to her?  I mean, you're the one whose parents are "caring" for you, in a sense, so it seems like the sensible thing to do.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Royal "we"?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Will she ask your parents to hand over care of their baby boy to her?  I mean, you're the one whose parents are "caring" for you, in a sense, so it seems like the sensible thing to do.

Just an FYI.....pointing out the silliness in Bushie's post is making  you look equally silly. 

[Mr. Morden]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Will she ask your parents to hand over care of their baby boy to her?  I mean, you're the one whose parents are "caring" for you, in a sense, so it seems like the sensible thing to do.

Just an FYI.....pointing out the silliness in Bushie's post is making  you look equally silly.  

Not at all.  We plan to bring back old fashioned Update traditions of drawing out Bushie-isms by pointing out his silliness.  Would we have gotten a gem like "the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man" if he hadn't been pressed on the matter?

[Hatman 🍁]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Yes, the old fashioned tradition of treating women as chattle is certainly so much better than today's equality crap!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Does she subscribe to old fashioned tradition as well? I need to find a girl like that. These modern girls are driving me insane.

[Mr. Morden]

Does she subscribe to old fashioned tradition as well?

He probably doesn't know yet, if all they've done is IM on Facebook.  "Do you subscribe to old fashioned tradition?" will be the second question he'll raise on their first date, just after "Why do you want to adopt a Thai baby?" and just before "When should we get married?".

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The anticipation of this date is unbearable. It's like the week before Christmas for me. I just know he is going to get engaged by Sunday but he's going to talk about talking it slow up until that very moment and it's going to be glorious when it happens. He's already planning to ask her dad to get serious. 

When is he going to reveal this relationship to his Facebook friends?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

When is he going to reveal this relationship to his Facebook friends?

His status will be "in a relationship" when he gets home from Date 1.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What are the odds he pops the question before next Monday morning?

I have a feeling engagement and a disaster of a date have about the same odds, with taking it slow being far behind. Longtime Update fans should expect these two scenarios.

[7,052,770]

Does she want you to ask her father's permission to just date her?  If she has told you to do so, then OK,  but unless she specifically has, I wouldn't just assume that you need permission from a 30-year-old woman's father just to take her on a date...

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Does she want you to ask her father's permission to just date her?  If she has told you to do so, then OK,  but unless she specifically has, I wouldn't just assume that you need permission from a 30-year-old woman's father just to take her on a date...

Bushie follows the old fashioned codes, Harry. It is legit and you're making yourself look silly by questioning his motives.

[Kitteh]

Bushie believes in those old-time sexual values, like paying for Playboy

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Does she want you to ask her father's permission to just date her?  If she has told you to do so, then OK,  but unless she specifically has, I wouldn't just assume that you need permission from a 30-year-old woman's father just to take her on a date...

Bushie follows the old fashioned codes, Harry. It is legit and you're making yourself look silly by questioning his motives.

Harry and Mr. Morden.   

I'm with Dukey, but I think he waits til date 3 to get engaged.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Don't play dumb, Mr. Morden. Why would he need the mother's permission? Women are 2nd class citizens in the great state of Oklahoma! Might as well be asking the pet goldfishes permission in Bushies view.

Now you know that's not true.  I will ask both, but in the old fashioned traditions, the girl's father is giving his consent to hand over care of his baby girl to another man.  We plan to bring back old fashioned traditions.  They are generally so much better than today's crap.

Yes, the old fashioned tradition of treating women as chattle is certainly so much better than today's equality crap!

I like to treat mine with respect.  I open doors, buy flowers, and ask her dad's blessing.  That's not the same as permission.  She's 27 and can make her own decisions, but it is courtesy to her parents to ask their blessing to get serious.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Does she subscribe to old fashioned tradition as well? I need to find a girl like that. These modern girls are driving me insane.

Yes, as a matter of fact, she was the one who asked me to ask her dad's blessing.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What does get serious mean? Buy flowers, open doors?

[Joe Biden 2020]

When is he going to reveal this relationship to his Facebook friends?

His status will be "in a relationship" when he gets home from Date 1.

Likely this, but I'm waiting for her okay to change my Facebook status.  She wants to wait until after we see each other for the first time before we make a relationship "official."

[Joe Biden 2020]

What are the odds he pops the question before next Monday morning?

I have a feeling engagement and a disaster of a date have about the same odds, with taking it slow being far behind. Longtime Update fans should expect these two scenarios.

The odds by Monday? 0.0%

[Joe Biden 2020]

What does get serious mean? Buy flowers, open doors?

Get serious means progressing this relationship further.  Engagement is still likely a few months away.  Mom is not buying her ring!!!  The only way I can buy her ring is if I have a job and that won't happen until April.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I know this question will be asked, so I'll answer it now.  Suppose I don't get her Dad's blessing. What then?  I will ask Alli if she feels comfortable enough to continue.  If she does, I will work on mending my relationship with her parents.  If she is not comfortable, we'll split peacefully and gracefully.  Neither of us anticipate that happening, but if it does this is what we'll do .

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

The asking permission to get serious is weird as heck, but I think everyone's overreacting to the whole asking fathers' permission for hands in marriage.  A lot of girls think it's "cute" to have the guy do that out of tradition, and nobody expects a boyfriend to ask the mother for permission.  I think you guys are being overly critical on Bushie for that aspect of it.