The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

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Big Abraham comes out of the "War on Whites" closet.

Any talk of "1776" aside (which obviously was formed in reaction to the "1619 Project"), Miss Hannah-Jones is clearly trying to push an agenda, and while it's maybe not one I would call "unpatriotic," it is very obviously one that is anti-white, which is worse.

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From a frequent contributor to this thread, comes some truly prime material.

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

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Morrissey=talentless, whiny, emo freak who couldn't write a decent melody to save his life. "Please don't drop me home, cause it's not my home it's their home and I'm welcome no more..." wah wah wah, STFU.

The good post gallery is that way.

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Zero homeless people in Soviet Russia while people were dying on the streets of Reagan's America and Thatcher's Britain. Speaks for itself, doesn't it?

Yeah, thats a whopper and a half. Communist Russia had a well documented, albeit of course officially denied, homeless problem.

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Tell us you don't understand the First Amendment without telling us you don't understand the First Amendment

I'm not sure where people get this false idea that Biden is entitled to receiving Communion.

I'm not sure where people get this false idea that a global religion with its own sovereign state is entitled to dictate what American politicians should or should not do.

Read the first clause in the First Amendment of this country's Constitution.

Again, Good post gallery that way. Just follow HenryWallaceVP.

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Morrissey=talentless, whiny, emo freak who couldn't write a decent melody to save his life. "Please don't drop me home, cause it's not my home it's their home and I'm welcome no more..." wah wah wah, STFU.

The good post gallery is that way.

He's referring to Morrissey as "emo". Morrissey started with The Smiths in 1982. Emo did not exist until after 1985's Revolution Summer. Furthermore Revolution Summer was a movement in Washington DC and later spread up and down the East Coast initially but did not reach the UK until the 90s, there was no such thing as "emo" in the UK until about 1992ish, which was quite a bit after the Smiths had broken up and Morrisey's solo stuff had zero influence from it.

It's a really dumb and ignorant post.

He isn't referring to the genre of music. Hard to imagine, I know.

Then what is he referring to?

"Emo" was not even a word in 1982. If you said it people would probably assume you were referring to the comedian Emo Phillips.

First definition on the list.

I’m with BRTD on this one. If you’re referring to a musician as “emo”, you’re probably talking about his genre. Morrissey obviously has nothing to do with emo the genre.

Idk who Morrissey is, but if he's "obviously" not in the emo genre, then why would anyone have said that to begin with? When I hear the word "emo," I don't think of music. I think of a whiny, depressive person who cuts themselves and dyes their hair all manner of hideous colors.

Then you are thinking of something that has nothing to do with emo at all. Like see my 50 greatest emo songs of all time thread and tell me what those have to do with that.

I don't care about the music. This is an unrelated term.

But whenever I say "emo" I am always referring to the musical style.

As usual, you have difficulty with the concept that this isn't all about you.

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Morrissey=talentless, whiny, emo freak who couldn't write a decent melody to save his life. "Please don't drop me home, cause it's not my home it's their home and I'm welcome no more..." wah wah wah, STFU.

The good post gallery is that way.

He's referring to Morrissey as "emo". Morrissey started with The Smiths in 1982. Emo did not exist until after 1985's Revolution Summer. Furthermore Revolution Summer was a movement in Washington DC and later spread up and down the East Coast initially but did not reach the UK until the 90s, there was no such thing as "emo" in the UK until about 1992ish, which was quite a bit after the Smiths had broken up and Morrisey's solo stuff had zero influence from it.

It's a really dumb and ignorant post.

He isn't referring to the genre of music. Hard to imagine, I know.

Then what is he referring to?

"Emo" was not even a word in 1982. If you said it people would probably assume you were referring to the comedian Emo Phillips.

First definition on the list.

I’m with BRTD on this one. If you’re referring to a musician as “emo”, you’re probably talking about his genre. Morrissey obviously has nothing to do with emo the genre.

Idk who Morrissey is, but if he's "obviously" not in the emo genre, then why would anyone have said that to begin with? When I hear the word "emo," I don't think of music. I think of a whiny, depressive person who cuts themselves and dyes their hair all manner of hideous colors.

Then you are thinking of something that has nothing to do with emo at all. Like see my 50 greatest emo songs of all time thread and tell me what those have to do with that.

I don't care about the music. This is an unrelated term.

But whenever I say "emo" I am always referring to the musical style.

As usual, you have difficulty with the concept that this isn't all about you.

Yes but if you haven't noticed I'm an emo "fundamentalist" of sorts so I don't even let misuse of the term go by.

You misspelled " annoying attention whore"

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If this is going nowhere soon, Israel should probably seize all of the West Bank and Gaza and evict every Arab from there. Then create a highly militarized 50km buffer zone to the neighbouring countries.

Better an end with horror than no end at all.

Moving back to Tender Branson for supporting ethnic cleansing.

How very.....Austrian.

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The fact you guys thought you could pass your entire agenda with only 50 votes is hilarious. A 222-213 house majority and 50-50 senate majority by definition means you have to water down much of your agenda to get it passed

It's pretty heartbreaking that even you are so far gone that you write off protecting the integrity of elections as merely "our agenda" rather than the last chance to save American democracy.

Like I said oppose it for these reasons :

- I oppose same day registration(Even Oregon doesn’t have this )

- I don’t think vote by mail should be expanded anymore than it already has as one of the biggest problem with vote by mail is it violates secret ballot principle

- I don’t think donations should be matched at a 6:1 ratio

-  candidates shouldn’t be required to release 10 years of tax returns . Mitt Romney only released  two and that is good enough

- I don’t trust independent commissions at all . Any commission should rather have equal amount of democrats and republicans only with no independents(other parties can get on the commission if they averaged 5% of the vote in presidential vote in the past decade ) . If they cannot come to an agreement then you would have an algorithm draw the lines




This bill isn’t anywhere near as good as you guys make it out to be

Girlfriend, just save us the time and say you don't want people that don't look like you to vote. We all know that's what you're trying to say. 

Truth hurts, huh?

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POW/MIA flag designed to promote a radical far-right conspiracy theory after the Vietnam War = okay for every f***ing Post Office in America

This is correct actually. This was a 1970s and grew into 1980s BS conspiracy theory made Popular by Rambo movies among others oh, that the sneaky sneaky inscrutable Asian North Vietnamese were still holding some of our brave boys captive because... Well, because they are bad guys and communist you see.

It did, however, demonstrate solidarity with families of POWs and MIAs whose whereabouts have never been confirmed.  It was a source of comfort to many of these families.  And the difference between this issue and others is that it was our Government for whom they fought and were captured and/or died.

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that. They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that. 

How do you know this? Not everyone who fought in the war was conservative. Stop making such absurd statements.

The bulk of those fighting the Vietnam War were working class kids from conservative families who weren't college-bound and could not avoid the draft.

Beat me to it, though I came here to post his previous post. Someone really outdid themselves in $hit posting.

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No. Although the end of the ROC would be good, it's not worth giving the USA and its corporate satellites free reign to imperialize the entire Korean peninsula. The humanitarian consequences would be incalculable and represent an unacceptable stab-in-the-back against the Korean civilization. It would probably represent the most despicable act ever made in Chinese history.

Especially because barring a black swan event, Taiwan is not a healthy society and will cease to be a distinct one from the Mainland in 50 years, while the DPRK is still going strong after seven decades of an American-led siege.

There is Tanki cosplay oh, but this takes it too frightening levels. Written by someone who will never have to face living a week in the most totalitarian state in the world

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LA county swung right by 5 points likely due to their large Asian and Latinx population shifting right. White voters in California shifted more left from 2016 and it balanced out almost evenly.

> Latinx

I'm always a bit bemused by the way that a huge majority of even left wing posters on here are so freaked out by that term.

I'm torn between thinking this is more a sheer obstinate refusal to even try and understand the sorts of issues that are  significant outside of the English speaking world (which works the other way round too - see the "how would Belgium vote if it was a US state" type threads, where people try to calque US issues onto a context where they aren't especially relevant); or that it is simply down to the US being much more conservative on issues related to gender and LGBT equality. Nevertheless, it's remarkably different to how I see the issue being discussed by left wingers in French or German.

This isn't really true though. The US got same-sex marriage before a ton of European countries including yours that doesn't even have it yet (though that'll almost certainly change in the fall.)

Polls much higher support here than in the USA (~80% in favour here, which is about normal for W Europe), whereas there was a thread on here celebrating 70% support in the USA just a couple of weeks ago. Or, more to the point, it will be legal here by the end of the year, the reason is an extremely slow political process, and at least we'll have introduced it democratically. There are also some concrete areas where we are even ahead - eg anti discrimination and hate speech laws or conversion therapy being illegal; and of course, no bizarre hate campaigns against transpeople's right to use the toilet or access medical treatment.

It's widely popular and accepted because a fortunately undemocratic Court ruling saying the Constitution required legalization of gay marriage thus made gay marriage popular and acceptable as the de facto status quo. Other country still requiring unpopular legislation to legalize gay marriage haven't gone through that transition yet. This country was obviously nowhere near that level of support for gay marriage until the oberfell decision made it a fait accompli

The Civil Rights Act did the same thing for desegregation, BTW. Amazing how laws can change perceptions

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LA county swung right by 5 points likely due to their large Asian and Latinx population shifting right. White voters in California shifted more left from 2016 and it balanced out almost evenly.

> Latinx

I'm always a bit bemused by the way that a huge majority of even left wing posters on here are so freaked out by that term.

I'm torn between thinking this is more a sheer obstinate refusal to even try and understand the sorts of issues that are  significant outside of the English speaking world (which works the other way round too - see the "how would Belgium vote if it was a US state" type threads, where people try to calque US issues onto a context where they aren't especially relevant); or that it is simply down to the US being much more conservative on issues related to gender and LGBT equality. Nevertheless, it's remarkably different to how I see the issue being discussed by left wingers in French or German.

This isn't really true though. The US got same-sex marriage before a ton of European countries including yours that doesn't even have it yet (though that'll almost certainly change in the fall.)

Polls much higher support here than in the USA (~80% in favour here, which is about normal for W Europe), whereas there was a thread on here celebrating 70% support in the USA just a couple of weeks ago. Or, more to the point, it will be legal here by the end of the year, the reason is an extremely slow political process, and at least we'll have introduced it democratically. There are also some concrete areas where we are even ahead - eg anti discrimination and hate speech laws or conversion therapy being illegal; and of course, no bizarre hate campaigns against transpeople's right to use the toilet or access medical treatment.

It's widely popular and accepted because a fortunately undemocratic Court ruling saying the Constitution required legalization of gay marriage thus made gay marriage popular and acceptable as the de facto status quo. Other country still requiring unpopular legislation to legalize gay marriage haven't gone through that transition yet. This country was obviously nowhere near that level of support for gay marriage until the oberfell decision made it a fait accompli

The Civil Rights Act did the same thing for desegregation, BTW. Amazing how laws can change perceptions

The implication is that same-sex marriage was universally unpopular before the court ruling, which is incorrect, quite a few states had already passed same-sex marriage via the democratic process prior to that or voted down bans on it (like the one I worked against!) and it was supported by almost every notable Democratic politician at that point. Also abortion is still a contentious and controversial issue almost 50 years after its relevant court ruling, so this isn't some sort of magic pill.

Above that though: if this is a reflection of the US being that much more conservative on such issues, then why isn't "Latinx" so widespread and universal in other Anglophone countries? You could point out they don't have as high Latino populations so it's less of a thing to come up, which is true, but it's blatantly incorrect and erasure of quite a few people to say they don't exist at all. The notion that a country like Australia wouldn't have as much if not significantly more backlash against "Latinx" if it was more of a thing there that described a much higher portion of their population is simply laughable.

With respect, you've completely misread what I wrote. First off though, you are incorrect. Gay marriage was by no means popular when the Supreme Court mandated it. It had been enacted in an orgy of states oh, and several those were due to judicial decisions based on state constitutions rather than popular legislative or referendum measures. I'm not going to bother, but I think you would see that as a Time gay marriage support was at best split, and probably not even that Nationwide.

Secondly, and more importantly, you're missing the fundamental Point. Both support and acceptance for a social issue grows once it has the backing of the law and becomes the status quo. Obviously the oberfell decision isn't about to affect the minds of people like fuzzy, or folks like you and me who supported gay marriage well before that. But the vast majority of people who would have walked into a voting booth on a referendum against gay marriage 10 years ago and voted no would never support even a symbolic referendum to repeal it.

My point is the Law changes the status quo and gives its blessing of normality upon once controversial Notions, especially those resisted by conservatives incidentally. Marijuana legalization is another example long with gay marriage and segregation.

And I never mentioned the word latinx, dude

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Context.

However, Hitler genuinely cared about his nation and the well-being of its people, so that's something they don't have in common.

It was intended as a swipe at Trump, but was a bit too witty for its own good and, like most attempts at comparison to Hitler, fell flat even as a joke

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It sounds like Biden is asking OSHA to do this, so certain details (like remote employees and when it takes effect) might not be known until the OSHA order.  Still, I think this is so far beyond the president's powers.

OSHA’s regulations quite literally have never been enforced outside of the health and safety industries. This is going to crash our economy before it inevitably gets struck down by lawsuits.

Nothing I said there was factually incorrect.

 Just too easy, but thank you for posting directly into the thread. Bread. That's what

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Shua doubles down on one facepalm worthy post after another, giving this thread a bona fide twofer!

Why is criticizing religion good, but criticizing any aspect of homosexuality automatically a "phobia" ?

Homosexuality is not an ideology or belief system.

It's use as a core identity category with specific ethical and social implications absolutely is.

Would you say the same about race?

Yes, of course - to the extent that people believe that their race says something important about them, or what they should do, or be allowed to do.  And if no one ever did, then race would not have developed as a relevant social category.

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Shua doubles down on one facepalm worthy post after another, giving this thread a bona fide twofer!

Why is criticizing religion good, but criticizing any aspect of homosexuality automatically a "phobia" ?

Homosexuality is not an ideology or belief system.

It's use as a core identity category with specific ethical and social implications absolutely is.

Would you say the same about race?

Yes, of course - to the extent that people believe that their race says something important about them, or what they should do, or be allowed to do.  And if no one ever did, then race would not have developed as a relevant social category.

I didn't know you were a race realist.

 Thank you for posting directly  Et cetera

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It's 2021 when you can go to a somewhat Christian music fest in Alabama and see this.

Still this is only CBD bath oil type stuff with not THC in the mix.

Just having an MJ banner on your booth doesn't make it legit and the real deal, where honestly THC based products are strongly effective against a wide array of medical conditions.

Alabama versions of Medical Marijuana are some of the most backwards of any state in the Union, while meanwhile in NE Bama in the outlaw region from Prohibition era, tons of THC MJ is being produced and distributed to support the local demand for Recreational markets as well.

No it's actual THC, just based on Delta-8 instead of Delta-9 and yes it does get you high. It's legal under a federal loophole that most states copied in the farm bill. I've bought and used a bunch in Minnesota. Trust me it's maybe a little bit weaker than D9, but the answer to "does it get you high?" Is a definite YES.

Sounds like a bunk argument to me...

I guess theoretically with some recent reforms in Alabama regarding Medical Marijuana it is possible that that this tent could potentially be selling THC outside of a music venue.

Did you sample the product or just posting based upon hearsay?

https://weedmaps.com/learn/laws-and-regulations/alabama

Due to the fact that what was being referred to was not in any way related to medical marijuana. It's a total non-sequitor.

 Dude. Just because his question slightly veered off topic, and hardly in a totally tangental way either, does not remotely warrant it's being placed in this thread. Get a grip.

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It's 2021 when you can go to a somewhat Christian music fest in Alabama and see this.

Still this is only CBD bath oil type stuff with not THC in the mix.

Just having an MJ banner on your booth doesn't make it legit and the real deal, where honestly THC based products are strongly effective against a wide array of medical conditions.

Alabama versions of Medical Marijuana are some of the most backwards of any state in the Union, while meanwhile in NE Bama in the outlaw region from Prohibition era, tons of THC MJ is being produced and distributed to support the local demand for Recreational markets as well.

No it's actual THC, just based on Delta-8 instead of Delta-9 and yes it does get you high. It's legal under a federal loophole that most states copied in the farm bill. I've bought and used a bunch in Minnesota. Trust me it's maybe a little bit weaker than D9, but the answer to "does it get you high?" Is a definite YES.

Sounds like a bunk argument to me...

I guess theoretically with some recent reforms in Alabama regarding Medical Marijuana it is possible that that this tent could potentially be selling THC outside of a music venue.

Did you sample the product or just posting based upon hearsay?

https://weedmaps.com/learn/laws-and-regulations/alabama

Due to the fact that what was being referred to was not in any way related to medical marijuana. It's a total non-sequitor.

 Dude. Just because his question slightly veered off topic, and hardly in a totally tangental way either, does not remotely warrant it's being placed in this thread. Get a grip.

It's more that I issued an explanation and he still kept pushing it and doubling down despite me having first hand experience with the product in question.

Nope. Still calling this as Not a particularly absurd or ignorant post, but rather you just attention whoring again.

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Let's just check something real quick…





Ah yes, of course.

And.....?

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Lots of countries have characteristic bigotries that are weirdly common there. If Britain is TERF Island then it's in the same sense that Japan is Xenophobe Archipelago, India is Misogynist Subcontinent, and France is Islamophobe Hexagon.

 Not sure how this post is wrong, let alone absurd or ignorant.

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Lots of countries have characteristic bigotries that are weirdly common there. If Britain is TERF Island then it's in the same sense that Japan is Xenophobe Archipelago, India is Misogynist Subcontinent, and France is Islamophobe Hexagon.

Not sure how this post is wrong, let alone absurd or ignorant.

It testifies to sheer ignorance to call a whole country "xenophobe" or "IsLaMoPhObE".
Especially in view of the fact that he called me and other users racist for expounding the problems of blatant misogyny and racism of the Islamic World (which already spreads to Middle Europe). Plus, he glorifies and supports the crimes of the Arab family clans and the Lebanese Mafia by subdividing races and ethnicities into valuable and unworthy to live so that, in his estimation, the non-valuable ethnic groups don't have the right to mention, condemn and take action against those crimes.
This forum has turned into such a far-left extremist bubble that the majority of this community is not timid anymore about despising human dignity and rejecting facts and statistics that don't support their world view. In other words: Atlas has transformed into the woke equivalent of the QAnon/Querdenker bubble.

The fact that not everybody understands how absurd and ignorant Nathan's statement is reveals much about this forum's bias...

 I think you are failing to distinguish between prejudices arguably being "common" in certain countries as Nathan stated, versus being" universal" which he clearly did not.

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literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though?

That's a statement, not a question.

The question mark is added for emphasis, it describes my incredulity at someone actually saying that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

He did not say that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms. He said that all mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

Mainstream people don't know or use the word neoliberal.

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It's only murder. Just one of a delightful variety of violent crimes. Never mind why homicide rates are considered the single most reliable and consistent piece of crime data.

And sure, Chicago doesn't get much attention in the national press these days. My apologies for picking some random backwater to make a point, but I'm sure that someone as informed as you realizes that there is not a good national dataset covering murders. Fox News. Cranky uncles. Facebook. What do I get for pronouncing the magic words?

Bullsh**t, you saw an Illinois AV and, apparently not owning a map, thought ‘Chicago’ is a great own on everyone in 400 mile radius.

Aside from which, How are violent crime rates relevant to the ‘wave’ of shoplifters the bill in question is supposed to stop?

Robbery is considered a violent crime because it involves violence or the threat thereof. 20 people simultaneously engaging in organized theft very well could be considered an implicit threat of violence and thus robbery.

No,  One needs more than that barring some truly extraordinary, and possibly unconstitutional law constitutional law. You might get a riot conviction along with whatever theft offenses there are. Plus maybe possession of criminal tools if they used hammers et cetera.

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As I've said elsewhere, Trump is a "Philosemite," which is someone who believes in every single anti-Semitic trope but thinks that they're all actually positive traits and therefore thinks that the Jews are awesome. Trump is the kind of person who thinks that there is a secret Jewish cabal that controls business and politics...and wishes that cabal was on his side! And thinks its unfair that it isn't! Shouldn't this shady cabal love him for supporting Israel?

Remember, this is the guy who addresses a Republican Jewish organization and starts off by saying that this is the only room he's ever been in with better dealmakers than himself.

Trump is someone who grew up hearing that Jews were greedy, manipulative loansharks who always find a technicality to break every promise they ever make while amassing disproportionate wealth and power, the old anti-Semitic stereotype of his childhood era, and went "Wow, those Jews sound incredible! I want to be just like them."

Tip for finding a Philosemite: someone of Trump's generation (in their 70s or 80s) who refer to the Jews as "That talented people" or "That incredible race." Works every time.

What's absurd about that post? It's pretty much dead on accurate.

this, plus I IRC-though I'm not going to go back to the thread to look because lazy- this is similar tor to things that X himself posted..

I suspect this was just a momentary lapse of reading comprehension Like we all sometimes get.