Pentagon keeping current ban on pride flag

[Fuzzy Bear]

POW/MIA flag designed to promote a radical far-right conspiracy theory after the Vietnam War = okay for every f***ing Post Office in America

This is correct actually. This was a 1970s and grew into 1980s BS conspiracy theory made Popular by Rambo movies among others oh, that the sneaky sneaky inscrutable Asian North Vietnamese were still holding some of our brave boys captive because... Well, because they are bad guys and communist you see.

It did, however, demonstrate solidarity with families of POWs and MIAs whose whereabouts have never been confirmed.  It was a source of comfort to many of these families.  And the difference between this issue and others is that it was our Government for whom they fought and were captured and/or died.

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that.  They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that.  

How do you know this? Not everyone who fought in the war was conservative. Stop making such absurd statements.

The bulk of those fighting the Vietnam War were working class kids from conservative families who weren't college-bound and could not avoid the draft.

[Joe Republic]

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that. They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that. 

What a disgustingly self-righteous individual you are.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that. They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that. 

What a disgustingly self-righteous individual you are.

Oh, please!  This is rich, coming from you.  And it would be rich from Badger if he joined in.

[DrScholl]

POW/MIA flag designed to promote a radical far-right conspiracy theory after the Vietnam War = okay for every f***ing Post Office in America

This is correct actually. This was a 1970s and grew into 1980s BS conspiracy theory made Popular by Rambo movies among others oh, that the sneaky sneaky inscrutable Asian North Vietnamese were still holding some of our brave boys captive because... Well, because they are bad guys and communist you see.

It did, however, demonstrate solidarity with families of POWs and MIAs whose whereabouts have never been confirmed.  It was a source of comfort to many of these families.  And the difference between this issue and others is that it was our Government for whom they fought and were captured and/or died.

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that.  They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that.  

How do you know this? Not everyone who fought in the war was conservative. Stop making such absurd statements.

The bulk of those fighting the Vietnam War were working class kids from conservative families who weren't college-bound and could not avoid the draft.

It's a huge misconception that everyone working class is conservative. The working class vote has a whole has never voted conservative, so I suspect that you are talking about white working class and even the white working class is not 100% conservative. Besides, lives are not worth more based on ideology.

[Derpist]

This is very good news. It is very bad to have gay people associated with genocidal, violent, American imperialism/militarism. Unfortunately, that association has been crystallized already, largely because the LGBT movement has been completely coopted by global capitalism as a human shield for capital imperialism.

[SWE]

POW/MIA flag designed to promote a radical far-right conspiracy theory after the Vietnam War = okay for every f***ing Post Office in America

This is correct actually. This was a 1970s and grew into 1980s BS conspiracy theory made Popular by Rambo movies among others oh, that the sneaky sneaky inscrutable Asian North Vietnamese were still holding some of our brave boys captive because... Well, because they are bad guys and communist you see.

The equivalent would be like if there was a universally recognized flag for respecting the victims of 9/11 that was designed to promote the idea that Bush did 9/11

[LtNOWIS]

Sad and disappointing. What's their rationale, that people will start demanding trans and BLM flags?

The rationale is simple. They wanted to ban the Confederate flag recently, but instead of banning it specifically under Trump, they just banned all flags except the ones Green Line just outlined.

But it makes sense to keep it this way, because otherwise they'd have to become the Flag Police and determine which ones are ok and which ones aren't. Actual white supremacists could have any number of ones that are like the Confederate flag but aren't. You'd probably also see the Black Lives Matter flag and the "thin blue line" police flag, which would cause disputes. You'd probably have to allow both or allow neither in those cases, and allowing neither is much easier. And all these flags can be infinitely combined or modified.

Why are white supremacists on camo welfare in the first place? I thought the military was supposed to have a rigorous screening process?

You can't screen the inside of someone's brain. A white supremacist who keeps his mouth shut and doesn't associate with bad groups or has no record cannot reliably be kept out of anywhere. Also people can get radicalized while in the service, either to white supremacy or other extremist ideologies.

But I'm much less concerned about someone putting up an overtly extremist flag, than a flag that means different things to different people. The Gadsden flag and the thin blue line flag could indicate extremism or intolerance, or they could indicate some acceptable sentiments or affiliations. Same with some others on the left. Parsing it out would be impossible.

[Ancestral Republican]

Sad and disappointing. What's their rationale, that people will start demanding trans and BLM flags?

The rationale is simple. They wanted to ban the Confederate flag recently, but instead of banning it specifically under Trump, they just banned all flags except the ones Green Line just outlined.

But it makes sense to keep it this way, because otherwise they'd have to become the Flag Police and determine which ones are ok and which ones aren't. Actual white supremacists could have any number of ones that are like the Confederate flag but aren't. You'd probably also see the Black Lives Matter flag and the "thin blue line" police flag, which would cause disputes. You'd probably have to allow both or allow neither in those cases, and allowing neither is much easier. And all these flags can be infinitely combined or modified.

Why are white supremacists on camo welfare in the first place? I thought the military was supposed to have a rigorous screening process?

You can't screen the inside of someone's brain. A white supremacist who keeps his mouth shut and doesn't associate with bad groups or has no record cannot reliably be kept out of anywhere. Also people can get radicalized while in the service, either to white supremacy or other extremist ideologies.

Well whatever you're doing now isn't working, because I have seen multiple active duty "service" members expressing racist and antisemitic views on multiple social media platforms. That's hardly keeping your mouth shut. I'm sure there are thousands more who just don't speak out publicly.

Same with some others on the left. Parsing it out would be impossible.

A gay flag would be bad because the people flying it could be gay extremists?

[LtNOWIS]

A gay flag would be bad because the people flying it could be gay extremists?

The gay flag is entirely anodyne at this point but there are other flags that are "borderline" that you could either ban or not ban that people would complain about. "If this is okay then why not that," endlessly.

[DaleCooper]

Why should the military be visibly representing social causes?

[Badger]

POW/MIA flag designed to promote a radical far-right conspiracy theory after the Vietnam War = okay for every f***ing Post Office in America

This is correct actually. This was a 1970s and grew into 1980s BS conspiracy theory made Popular by Rambo movies among others oh, that the sneaky sneaky inscrutable Asian North Vietnamese were still holding some of our brave boys captive because... Well, because they are bad guys and communist you see.

It did, however, demonstrate solidarity with families of POWs and MIAs whose whereabouts have never been confirmed.  It was a source of comfort to many of these families.  And the difference between this issue and others is that it was our Government for whom they fought and were captured and/or died.

Our POWs that came back DID suffer torture.  I suspect you care not one whit about that.  They weren't liberals.  They were brave, they were held captive, and the North Vietnamese DID ignore all standards set by the Geneva Convention as to how to treat Prisoners of War.  Perhaps you could recognize that.  

That's right, jackass. Because I rightly call the pow movement a myth means I don't care about the fact our Lows suffered torture. Meanwhile, you Craven Lee worship, as in lick the feet of, a political monster who literally called our soldiers are suckers for serving and criticize an American war hero because he got shot down and captured. You insufferable loudmouth hypocrite.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

Adding to what Mr. R's been telling me: the policy in question question applies to private vehicles on base and private dwellings on base, which cannot be argued to be government speech. So if there is a countervailing reason for banning such private speech, it must be fairly applied.

What happened to Mr R again

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

As a bisexual, I agree with this decision.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Adding to what Mr. R's been telling me: the policy in question question applies to private vehicles on base and private dwellings on base, which cannot be argued to be government speech. So if there is a countervailing reason for banning such private speech, it must be fairly applied.

What happened to Mr R again

He just doesn't post anymore.