Tara Reade Biden allegation megathread

[roxas11]

for Once I will actually give credit to much of the Media for not taking the bait this time around.
this could have easily turned into the new Her emails of 2020 had the media gave it the credibility that it clearly does not deserve.


Now don't get wrong Im all for for media privately investigating this matter to see if there is anything to it and looks like many of them are already doing that........you can bet fox news has already done it lol
    

what people are finding is that she and Her story are not credible nor should it be treated as if it is. She has changed her story a couple of times and not 1 person can back up her version of the events. Even the one person who said that she did tell them about harassment was surprised that she is now claiming rape since that was not what she told them at the time.


Its scary to think that Had the coronavirus not happened she may have actually gotten some to actually fall for this BS. thanks to Bad timing on her part people are rightfully more concerned about this virus and a recession than they are about some silly allegation that she just decided to drag out simply because her favorite candidate Bernie lost  

unfortunately even as Tara Reade allegation fall flat when it comes to Biden
it still hurts a lot of woman who really are being abused by powerful Men

[roxas11]

I told you that Biden needs to come out and repudiate this if not true.

No terra needs to get her story straight and actually find someone who will actually agree that she was Assaulted in the first place because remember She claims that she originally told 4 people it was Harassment at the time.............because of that not one can person can back her new claims about rape  


Biden should give Zero attention and credibility to this whatsoever
and if this election comes down to her credibility VS a bad trump economy in November

I think Biden going to win that augment.......

  

[roxas11]

This does fit the narrative why Biden was coy about Anita Hill's sexual assault allegations towards Thomas and there is evidence that he has sexually harassed women. This story will get legs in the Fall. If Biden brings up impeachment of Trump, Trump can bring up this allegation

talk about giving trump some weak ammo against Biden lol

Not only could Biden Bring up all the many woman who has accused trump of rape over the years
The economy will also be right in the middle of recession so Im not sure the Unemployed are going to care about Tara in november when they are struggling to make ends meet and pay their rent

[roxas11]

The irony is that had Tara Reade simply just stuck to her original story this Larry king thing could have been a much bigger deal. sure the transcripts never brings up Sexual assault or harassment but it is vague enough that she could have used it to at least back up her harassment claims

But because she decided very recently to change her story to Sexual assault
the transcript simply dose not come close to matching up with something like that. All it does is hurt her credibility more and raises questions about why she spent decades claiming one thing but than suddenly in 2020 decided to radically change her story to the point that even the people she originally told are surprised by Her New claims of rape

[roxas11]

Maybe in a time climate before this Virus showed up her allegation would have been A bigger deal But now things have changed and with all due respect people lives and the economy is way bigger than either Tara Reade or Joe Biden

I just think the reality is Tara Reade Picked the worst time possible to attempt to "ME TOO" Biden
because by the end of the day the most important news to come out is not some old Larry king interview about her..... its this News about the economy that will effects everyone

Grim new CBO projections: Unemployment worse than in Great Recession through 2021


If this turns out to true a lot of people will understandably simply not be in the mood to even care about any of this at all. The unemployed are not going care about what did or did not happen to her decades ago

they are going to care about the pain and suffering their families are feeling right at that very moment and if Biden speaks to that issue He will president

Sorry Tara Reade but this election will not be about you.......Its The Economy stupid

[roxas11]

Wow this is blowing up the news feeds this morning. Politico, Fox News. Of course CNN doesn't have an ounce of it. Nice to see they are now the Democratic Party.

So Fox news you are claiming fox news is now part of the Democratic Party  lol but in all serious

I for 1 would be upset if the Media Hyped up Tara Reade while ignoring they Many more Woman that has said that Trump has rapped them

If I was Biden Camp I would Make 100 percent sure that if were are going to play the "Me Too" Game than Trump's accusers should also have their voices heard just as some want to to hear from  Tara Reade

If the GOP want to make this election about who raped who than So be it
the Dems will have to fight fire with fire  (Biden 1 accuser vs trump 20 )

that is ugly path for this election to take and Im not sure that the public this in the middle of a recession will really care about any of this at all. Trump and Bill Clinton  allegations were way worse and it simply did not matter in the end

If Unemployment is over 11 percent on election day as the CBO is now projecting it will be.
all the Tara Reade in the world will not save Trump and Biden will probably our next president

[roxas11]

Remember when the Biden Bros here were saying that she’s just some salty Bernie supporter trying to tear Biden down? Well she must have been Bernie’s biggest fan ever if she was already accusing Biden of sexual assault in 1993.

What's your source for her "accusing Biden of sexual assault in 1993" ?

www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/24/tara-reade-biden-video-207670

New evidence surfaces in Tara Reade allegation against Biden

A 1993 video appears to show her mother calling the Larry King Show to discuss a claim against “a prominent senator.”

Not really evidence at all
At no point in that clip is rape or harassment ever brought up
she simply said that Tara Reade was having problems with a senator

In reality this woman could have been talking about anything or anyone. its way too vague for me to look at that as hard evidence that Biden rapped anybody.


Honestly stuff like this kind of scares me
you mean to tell me if woman goes on TV right now and says that she was having "problems" with me at work. people will automatically think that means I was trying harass or rape her lol

I guess it is true what they say about today's society "Guilty until proven innocent"

 

[roxas11]

Ok After looking more into Tara Reade Im just going to be Blunt I do not believe this woman at all
and I Now think what she is doing to Biden as absolute disgrace. Im actually shocked that people are not being more critical of her after what I have just read about her.

Here is her timeline

1. In 2009 she commended Joe Biden for action he had taken against domestic abuse, writing

"I should know what an abuser looks like. After all, I was working for then Senator Joseph Biden, who sponsored the Violence Against Women Act. But domestic violence is an equal opportunity offender."


2. In November of 2016, a few weeks after the election, Reade liked a tweet made by President Obama, wishing Joe Biden a “Happy Birthday,” and calling Biden “the best Vice President and friend” that he could have had.

3. January of 2017, Reade likes two tweets by the Obama WhiteHouse Archive, one quoting Joe Biden’s praise of Obama, and the other congratulating Joe Biden for receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

4. March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.


5. April of 2017, Reade liked a tweet by the Huffington post that praised the former Vice President for helping men realize how important they are in the fight against sexual assault


6. December of 2018 Reade wrote and has since deleted that she left politics and Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “loves Russia with all her heart but by April of 2019, her story changed an now she blames her move from Washington on Joe Biden essentially having her blacklisted.

7. April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”


8. April 6, 2019, Reade claimed that she didn’t even know if Biden knows why she left working for him or if he noticed she was gone.


9. March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.

I going to be honest the more details I read about this woman the more he upset I get
She changed here story to the point where each version does not even match up with the other

for example

In 2009 she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period

In 2018  she now claimed she left Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “love Russia with all her heart.

In 2019 she claimed she was forced to resign because some prominent Senator decided that he liked my legs. I was sad and lost and moved on



these are 3 different Version of the same story told by this woman over the years
As far as Im concerned she is a nothing more than an untrustworthy liar who should be ashamed of herself and Its a Joke that some on here have compared her to Christine Blasey Ford.

I feel sorry for the Bidens because they are going to go through all of this over a woman that should have No credibility at all for the the many lies she has told over the years and The Media should be ashamed of themselves for even going along with this in the first place

[roxas11]

Even if that is her mother in the clip it's a pretty big stretch with how vague it is. And why would she care about respect for someone who raped her? It sounds like she's just describing a bad office environment.

You clearly do not understand arguing a criminal case against a Senator, no less in 1993 by an actual woman! Power dynamics, and being forced into the public eye which would define her - for both better and for worse - for the rest of her life. This societal struggle is why the “Me Too’ movement caught on....over twenty years later. Tone deaf, much?

1993 is one thing

But so what is your many excuses her spending 2017 and 2018 Praising Biden while the ME TOO movement was going on.

at this point she had not worked for Biden in decades and the me too moment was in full swing

yet by April 2020 she was still saying that Biden have never rapped or even harassed  her

In her own words

his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”[/b]


she did not start saying rape until march of 2020

[roxas11]

Even if that is her mother in the clip it's a pretty big stretch with how vague it is. And why would she care about respect for someone who raped her? It sounds like she's just describing a bad office environment.

You clearly do not understand arguing a criminal case against a Senator, no less in 1993 by an actual woman! Power dynamics, and being forced into the public eye which would define her - for both better and for worse - for the rest of her life. This societal struggle is why the “Me Too’ movement caught on....over twenty years later. Tone deaf, much?

1993 is one thing

But so what is your many excuses her spending 2017 and 2018 Praising Biden while the ME TOO movement was going on.

at this point she had not worked for Biden in decades and the me too moment was in full swing

yet by April 2020 she was still saying that Biden have never rapped or even harassed  her

In her own words

his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”[/b]


she did not start saying rape until march of 2020

All I’m asking for is consistent, equal, and fair reporting. The whole Kavanaugh hoax was disgusting and the fact that leftist media won’t touch this story because it doesn’t fit their agenda is beyond disturbing.

It’s not “Believe all women except when it’s convenient for me not to.”

I agree that there should be consistent, equal, and fair reporting but let me be very clear about something this woman ain't not  Christine Blasey Ford and to even compare the 2 is ridiculous.

1 .Fords story Never changed this drastically over the years when it came to Kavanaugh

2. Ford did not spend decades saying that Kavanaugh was as great guy years after he assaulted her

3.  Ford never wrote an article that flat out said that she was never raped by him at all
again in Tara Reade own words

"Bidens actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct"

Ford never released statement like this when it came to Kavanaugh and frankly had it been Tara Reade who was the accusing Kavanaugh instead on Ford in 2018

Both her and Dem's would have deservedly got ripped the pieces
The cross examination of Tara would have been brutal  lol

[roxas11]

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call me what you want I still do not buy this woman BS

In here own word in April 202O


his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”


and she also spent years changing her story




In 2009 she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period

In 2018  she now claimed she left Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “love Russia with all her heart.

In 2019 she claimed she left Washington DC and she was forced to resign because some prominent Senator decided that he liked my legs. I was sad and lost and moved on



these are 3 different Versions of the same story told by this woman over the many years
I sorry But as far as concerned this woman is liar with no credibility at all and if that makes me disgusting for thanking that than so be it

[roxas11]

I don't know if Tara Reade is telling the truth. I can say that the way certain members of this community have treated her claims in this thread is disgusting.

call me what you want I still do not buy this woman BS

In here own word in April 202O


his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”


and she also spent years changing her story




In 2009 she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period

In 2018  she now claimed she left Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “love Russia with all her heart.

In 2019 she claimed she left Washington DC and she was forced to resign because some prominent Senator decided that he liked my legs. I was sad and lost and moved on



these are 3 different Versions of the same story told by this woman over the many years
I sorry But as far as concerned this woman is liar with no credibility at all and if that makes me disgusting for thanking that than so be it

Perhaps she didn't tell her truth from the beginning because of the inevitable reactions from people like you and General Macarthur and all the other men in this thread calling her a liar.

What BS

Here is her timeline

1. In 2009 she commended Joe Biden for action he had taken against domestic abuse, writing

"I should know what an abuser looks like. After all, I was working for then Senator Joseph Biden, who sponsored the Violence Against Women Act. But domestic violence is an equal opportunity offender."

2. In November of 2016, a few weeks after the election, Reade liked a tweet made by President Obama, wishing Joe Biden a “Happy Birthday,” and calling Biden “the best Vice President and friend” that he could have had.

3. January of 2017, Reade likes two tweets by the Obama White House, one quoting Joe Biden’s praise of Obama, and the other congratulating Joe Biden for receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

4. March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.

5. April of 2017, Reade liked a tweet by the Huffington post that praised the former Vice President for helping men realize how important they are in the fight against sexual assault

6. December of 2018 Reade wrote and has since deleted that she left politics and Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “loves Russia with all her heart but by April of 2019, her story changed an now she blames her move from Washington on Joe Biden essentially having her blacklisted.

7. April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”

8. April 6, 2019, Reade claimed that she didn’t even know if Biden knows why she left working for him or if he noticed she was gone.

9. March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.


the woman spent year praising Joe biden decades after her so called rape happened

When ME TOO moment was kicking off in 2017 - 2018
she did nothing but praise Biden on twitter and in March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.

[roxas11]

I don't know if Tara Reade is telling the truth. I can say that the way certain members of this community have treated her claims in this thread is disgusting.

call me what you want I still do not buy this woman BS

In here own word in April 202O


his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”


and she also spent years changing her story




In 2009 she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period

In 2018  she now claimed she left Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “love Russia with all her heart.

In 2019 she claimed she left Washington DC and she was forced to resign because some prominent Senator decided that he liked my legs. I was sad and lost and moved on



these are 3 different Versions of the same story told by this woman over the many years
I sorry But as far as concerned this woman is liar with no credibility at all and if that makes me disgusting for thanking that than so be it

Perhaps she didn't tell her truth from the beginning because of the inevitable reactions from people like you and General Macarthur and all the other men in this thread calling her a liar.

What BS

Here is her timeline

1. In 2009 she commended Joe Biden for action he had taken against domestic abuse, writing

"I should know what an abuser looks like. After all, I was working for then Senator Joseph Biden, who sponsored the Violence Against Women Act. But domestic violence is an equal opportunity offender."

2. In November of 2016, a few weeks after the election, Reade liked a tweet made by President Obama, wishing Joe Biden a “Happy Birthday,” and calling Biden “the best Vice President and friend” that he could have had.

3. January of 2017, Reade likes two tweets by the Obama White House, one quoting Joe Biden’s praise of Obama, and the other congratulating Joe Biden for receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

4. March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.

5. April of 2017, Reade liked a tweet by the Huffington post that praised the former Vice President for helping men realize how important they are in the fight against sexual assault

6. December of 2018 Reade wrote and has since deleted that she left politics and Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “loves Russia with all her heart but by April of 2019, her story changed an now she blames her move from Washington on Joe Biden essentially having her blacklisted.

7. April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”

8. April 6, 2019, Reade claimed that she didn’t even know if Biden knows why she left working for him or if he noticed she was gone.

9. March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.


the woman spent year praising Joe biden decades after her so called rape happened

When ME TOO moment was kicking off in 2017 - 2018
she did nothing but praise Biden on twitter and in March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.

Humans are complicated. There is no "right way" for someone to interact with their abuser. Think of domestic situations where the wife maintains a relationship with her husband despite abuse. I find it perfectly plausible Reade could've retained respect for Biden and his career (what brought her to his office in the first place) even after the alleged sexual assault happened.

this went way beyond that

She did not maintain respect for or even love for Biden by 2020
she became a Bernie supporter and she wrote an article this year that Outright denied that any rape ever took place at all

she was very critical of Biden and was calling him was a crappy boss but she went out her was to make make it clear that his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”

Had ford wrote a article claiming that kavanagh never rapped her in 2018
The GOP would have ripped her to pieces and the cross examination would have been brutal

[roxas11]

Interesting Side Note: This isn't trending on Twitter in the United States, which is honestly shocking.

Lets see
an allegation from this woman from decades ago vs 56,308 People dead from coronavirus and A economy that the CBO is now saying wont get better until the end of 2021

when unemployed Americans go to vote lets see which one they will care about the most lol


but seriously if this is what this election comes down to
Biden will win in a landslide because all the Tara Reade Biden allegation in the world wont save trump if the CBO is correct about the unemployment rate being over 11 percent on election day 2020....

[roxas11]

If Reade is really a Sanders supporter, why would she wait until after the Sanders campaign was hopelessly behind to go public with this allegation?  Why not do it before Super Tuesday at least?

here is her tweet

[roxas11]

I am still uneasy with everything about this. It doesn't seem like it's going to go away.

Here is what Biden needs to do: Hire someone independent of his campaign to gather all evidence proving his innocence. Once this is found, he needs to immediately release it and issue a spoken address denying the allegations, while still being careful not to disparage the accuser. After this, I would just advise them to move on and avoid this topic. Suffocate it, do not give it oxygen.

Not that any amount of evidence will dissuade the Bernie-or-Bust people and the Trumptards. After all, Obama released his long-form birth certificate and you still have millions of people, including elected officials, believing that he was born in Kenya.

Trying to convince them doesn't matter. What does matter is making sure this doesn't create feelings of doubt in the broader electorate and result in people who would have voted for Joe staying home.

If the CBO projection about unemployment being over 11 percent on election day turns out to be trump

The Dems could nominate R Kelly and make Bill Cosby his VP and trump would still get landslided out of office lol

[roxas11]

If Reade is really a Sanders supporter, why would she wait until after the Sanders campaign was hopelessly behind to go public with this allegation?  Why not do it before Super Tuesday at least?

here is her tweet

Can someone translate this for me?

A tweet response made by Tara just weeks before coming forward with new allegations against Biden  

[roxas11]

If Reade is really a Sanders supporter, why would she wait until after the Sanders campaign was hopelessly behind to go public with this allegation?  Why not do it before Super Tuesday at least?

here is her tweet

Can someone translate this for me?

A tweet response made by Tara just weeks before coming forward with new allegations against Biden  

Right, but what is it supposed to be saying?

she is basically teasing the new Allegation that she is going to drop on Biden with her tic toc at the end of that tweet

she made a bid deal about timing and she definitely wanted to put this out when she felt it would hurt Biden the most. I convinced by that point that she had already believed Bernie was a lost cause and decided to wait and drop it during the general election against trump  

unfortunately for her the coronavirus changed everything
Had the virus never showed up I can imagine the media tuning this into the "Hillary emails" of 2019

[roxas11]

The thing I find strangest about this story and the reason I haven't posted much in this thread is what seems to be a huge disconnect between how this is unfolding within Atlas vs. the rest of the political world. If I only had Atlas to go by, I'd think this would be the #2 story in the nation after COVID-19 with major known party gadflies calling for Biden to drop out and Biden holding near-daily press conferences to push back on the allegations. But this doesn't even scratch the surfce of the political discussion elsewhere.

And it's not like I live in some pro-Biden bubble. Dozens of very active Facebook friends are diehard Bernie supporters who post stuff daily hating on Biden, but I rarely see posts about Tara Reade - still the same old "Biden supported the crime bill!" or "Biden voted for Clarence Thomas!" Every now and then someone might post about this, but it really gets lost in the noise. Even on Twitter, (where I spend a decent amount of time for work, even though I'm not an otherwise "active" user") today I saw plenty of tweets about Pelosi endorsing Biden and New York cancelling the primary as evidence of the DNC being corrupt and wanting to destroy Sanders and annoint Biden, but barely anything on Tara Reade except maybe deep in the replies.

If someone has a better lens of what the actual dynamics here are, I'd be curious. I don't watch cable news or listen to the radio, so maybe it's just a question of what medium I'm using? Maybe COVID-19 is just so historically massive that everything else feels completely ignored?

Either way, even if this is true (I still have my doubts, but I'm trying to keep an open mind), I have a hard time seeing it take down Biden or being the difference-maker in November unless there are other women who come forward. Sadly we have short attention spans, and stories like this tend to have their moment in the sun and then fade away. Even if there's a smoking gun in October, the public reaction will probably be something to the effect of "didn't we already talk about this? I thought that was disproven!"

Most of the coverage on the left is on Twitter. On the other hand, right wing media is running with it. I had a Trump-supporting family member mention it to me and they were bewildered that I hadn't heard of the Larry King tape. Bernie and the left lack a media empire like Fox News.

Im in the opposite situation
outside of this forum Nobody in the real world has brought this up to me or even talked about it
Honestly everybody is still taking about about this virus and getting increasingly very worried about the direction of the economy

[roxas11]

Biden’s team should just ignore her. Major networks have already looked into this case and couldn’t find anything. It is currently a non-story for most people and the ones promoting it are never going to support Joe anyway, so there is no point entertaining their bad faith.

agreed and this is an Issue Trump and the GOP can't really effective use against him even if the wanted to. trump bringing up Tara Reade would all but grantee that all the woman who have accused him over the years will all be back on the campaign trail having their voiced heard

Honestly right now what is happening in the US is so much bigger than her

Almost 60 thousands people are dead from this virus and the CBO is saying the economy wont really start to recover until 2021. we heading into some tough times and for many none of this BS will matter when they struggling to survive through this recession  

Biden should 100 be  percent be focused on the economy from now until election day
if want to respond let his surrogates do it    


as for Tara Reade

look this story had 1 big moment and that was during the Larry king tape a few days ago
but after that story simply is not really getting as much attention and this time around It failed to to trend on twitter like it did when larry king interview dropped

Look she should be lucky that she even got this far because  honestly most of her stories that she has old over the years simply do not hold up and even with simply fact checks  her Huge part of her story falls apart
the reality is to keep this going so go to need much stronger evidence because so far what is out simply not going to cut it.  

I will give her week to make something of this and that is being generous  but beyond that if nothing else comes of this or nobody else comes forward with real damming info. people are going to move on and if that happens it will much tougher for her or to GOP to try yo bring the story back around November because for many  it will simply see it as old news that will be overshadowed by their worries about the economy  

[roxas11]

The way the Democrats are treating this allegation vs Ford's is disgusting.

No it's not. Things can be different.

To believe Reade, you have to believe in a vast conspiracy that held together for nearly 3 decades. To believe Ford, you don't have to do any of that.

None of that necessarily proves that Biden or Kavanaugh are guilty or innocent, but it's quite easy for someone who believes Ford to have some doubts about Reade without being a hack.

For the record, I'm skeptical of both accusations. But seriously, both accusations are uncorroborated and unproven, and the Democrats are actively sweeping this under the rug, no questions in the media, immediate skepticism. A little over a year ago, they were telling us to believe all women and calling Kavanaugh a rapist immediately. It's so sick. I just think if they claim to have standards, they should stick with them. You know, hear her out. To them, it's clearly an inconvenience because we're in election year. Trump is in no place to use this against Biden, so this is about having integrity and standards, of which they seem to have none.

 This woman ain't no Christine Blasey Ford and to even compare the 2 is ridiculous.

1 .Fords story Never changed this drastically over the years when it came to Kavanaugh

2. Ford did not spend decades saying that Kavanaugh was as great guy years after he assaulted her

3.  Ford never wrote an article that flat out said that she was never raped by him at all
again in Tara Reade own words

"Bidens actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct"


Ford never released statement like this when it came to Kavanaugh and frankly had it been Tara Reade who was accusing Kavanaugh instead on Ford in 2018

Both her and Dem's would have deservedly got ripped to pieces
The cross examination of Tara would have been brutal  lol

[roxas11]

I do not believe the allegation as is should cost biden the nomination, but those of you claiming blasey-ford's case is more credible are incorrect, in my opinion. Here is why:

Credibility means something that has enough details to be believable/possible.

Let's review:

1) We never even got ANY evidence that ford and kavanaugh knew each other. Yet we know for a fact that tara reade knew biden and worked for him.

2) We know that tara reade left/was removed in 1993 from being employed at his office.

3) We know that her mom went on larry king in 1993 and mentioned a problem with a "prominent senator" her daughter was having

4) NOBODY came forward to corroborate Ford. We now have MULTIPLE PEOPLE, including at least 2 democrats, that have corroborated reade.

    1) Her bother
    2) An anonymous friend  
    3) Lynda Lacasse: a biden-supporting neighbor who is a retired doctor
    4) Lorraine Sanchez: an aide to a state senator in California where reade worked after leaving biden office

     5) and we know her mom called into larry king in 1993 to voice a concern.





You cannot possibly argue it is less credible than ford.

By the way, ford also changed her story multiple times.

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Here is a how her story has evolved since she fist started telling it in 2009



In 2009 she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period

In 2018  she claimed she left Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “loves Russia with all her heart.

In 2019 she claimed she left Washington DC and was forced to resign because some prominent Senator decided that he liked my legs. I was sad and lost and moved on



These are 3 different Version of the same story told by this woman over the years
Again show Me where Ford did anything close to this in 2018
its laughable that somebody who lies and changes her story as much as this woman has is seen as credible to anyone when she herself wrote an article in April 2020 literally saying that Biden never harassed or sexually assaulted her at all



here is another example

In Reade’s April 17, 2019 article for The Union, where she talks about her move to Washington DC to work for Joe Biden, she claimed to have driven across country to get to her destination.
I was beyond excited, I packed up my Nissan and cats, told my boyfriend goodbye and headed alone on the cross country drive to Washington D.C.


In 2009, however, the story was different. This time she arrived in DC on an airplane.
As the plane descended into Washington D. C., my Siamese cat, Cleo, meowed loudly from under my seat. Cleo had been through all my many moves, men, and a couple of Los Angeles earthquakes. As the lights of Washington D.C. reflected through the plane’s windows, the excitement of my new job as a Senate staffer lay ahead of me.

again show Me where ford story has changed as much as this over the years

[roxas11]

Why is she doing interviews with The Daily Caller?

Ocasio-Cortez was also among the first politicians to suggest that Reade’s claims were “legitimate to talk about” and deserved further investigation, for which Reade thanked her on Twitter. But since Ocasio-Cortez has indicated that she intends to vote for Biden, Reade has told the conservative website the Daily Caller how disappointed she is that AOC has chosen to “toe the line,” and on Sunday she tweeted, “Those who remain silent are complicit to rape” and tagged Stacey Abrams, Kamala Harris, Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, and Ocasio-Cortez; it was retweeted 6,000 times.

...because, she is Bernie or Bust

First off her doing an interview with the daily caller is not a smart move on her part at all
she is politicizing herself and is making her accusing come off as nothing more than a right-wing attack against Biden.

Imagine if Ford had went to MSNBC to give an exclusive interview to them about kavanagh
the GOP would have use that to tear her to pieces during the trial

Secondly
So she attacks dems for remaining silent and complicit in her rape
Yet she is giving an interview to the same people who have attacked woman who have accused trump himself of rape. The daily caller defended Roy Moore who was accused of going after young under age girls.

yet she has nothing to say about any of that

So wants the Dems to care about what she says happened to her in the 90a while ignoring all of this



as long she herself remains silent about trying to help reelect the guy who did this
then Im not buying the BS that she and the Daily caller are selling

[roxas11]

While I'm not sure what to make of Reade's claims-at least not yet-it still disturbs me how so many people on here, who firmly believed in Christine Blasey Ford, denounced Brett Kavanaugh as a rapist and serial sexual harasser, and who condemned those that did not believe in Ford's claims, are now defending Biden. Wasn't the mantra of the #MeToo movement to "Believe All Women"? I am even more disgusted by how some on here want to destroy this particular accuser, whereas if anyone had dared suggest the same about Ford, they would have been shouted down and called a "horrible" human being. It's unfortunate that partisan lenses (and yes, I'm reverting back to my "fake moderate" persona, if you can call it that), seem to color sexual assault allegations in general.

I'm someone who believes the allegations against Trump, and I'm someone who would not have voted to confirm Kavanaugh had I been in the Senate. I'm also someone who doesn't think that this particular allegation should be swept under the rug.

I believe it was the generic "Believe Women," not "Believe all women" no matter what, regardless of how far fetched their claims are.

Obviously if anyone literally said Believe ALL Women but doesn't believe Reade, yeah that's hypocritical, but who actually did that?

I distinctly remember #MeToo advocates making the claim that women ought to be believed, if they make sexual assault allegations. And the #MeToo movement arose in part, because of an impulse by many women to come out of the shadows, in which many of them had hid for decades, and to share their stories. That is one similarity between Christine Blasey Ford and Tara Reade; both women say these incidents happened decades ago and that they told others about it. And in both instances, we do have at least one piece of evidence that would seem to suggest something did happen (Blasey Ford's therapy notes and the CNN call made by Reade's mother).

I believe Tara Reade 100 percent.............when she wrote an article this year saying this lol


his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”


Me too said believe the woman
well in this case I believe everything that she wrote in that article before she decided to radically change her story .....  

[roxas11]

Reade is ruining Biden's reputation right now, and you are saying that Biden couldn't respond because that would be "rape-enabling barbarism".

That's nonsense. Biden can do many, many things. He could issue a forceful denial. He could admit that Reade's initial claim was true and apologize. He could even get indignant and emotional about it.

What he should not do, and what his campaign should not do, and what you are insisting on, is "dig up every dirty detail of Reade's life and leak it to the public."

If this was the court of law, everything about Reade's life would be closely scrutinized in a way that you would considered 'rape-enabling barbarism'.[/b]

It is not, nor are you are not a lawyer cross-examining her.

1. He could issue a forceful denial

hahahahhahahahahhaha
Lets just be real How man times has that actually worked in cases like this.
I saw tons of forceful denials during Me TOO era from 2017 to 2018 and 98 percent of the time it did not work at all. most people simple perceived them to be guilty not matter what they said even if they tuned out to be innocent in the end.



2. He could admit that Reade's initial claim was true and apologize.

Which makes Zero sense since even Tara herself said that Biden never did anything  sexual to her at all. Unlike many of the woman of Me TOO Reade is actually on record denying anything like that ever happened to her.

I don't think Biden should back down on this one at all
It is Tara who needs to explain to the american people why should is now claiming rape after writing an article in the same year saying that Biden never raped her at all
 

3. He could even get indignant and emotional about it.

yeah something tells me he wont be winning over trump support's and Bernie bros on twitter by getting indignant or emotional about it lol