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soundchaser
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« on: November 30, 2021, 07:07:59 PM »

I still think Fetterman will have an easier time defining himself as an outsider than Dr. Oz, if that’s the route this campaign takes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 11:00:33 PM »


These are all generic Republican talking points couched in platitudes. As I said: I don’t see a lot of “outsider” rhetoric that’ll really stick based on this website.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2022, 08:06:21 PM »

Almost certain this'll be within 1000 votes, very likely within 500, could even be within 100.

How likely is this being within 10 votes?

I saw someone with a bit of PA info put things at McCormick by around 20 votes based on what has already been tabulated of the same vote baskets in each county. He needs to win what is out by about 7%, not hard given the geography of the outstanding vote, but still a bit of a ask. So nobody can say for certain other than it will be close, and the campaigns are playing as such:



I’ve been a poll worker for a number of elections, and I can confidently say there is no bigger waste of cash than poll watchers.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2022, 04:09:10 PM »

Not only is Oz keeping the BS memes, he's also re-using them:



A very topical reference for the year 2005.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2022, 10:51:40 AM »

That supermarket ad is one of the most embarrassing missteps by a campaign in recent memory. Talk about falling right into the narrative set for you.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2022, 11:04:13 AM »

"I'm not a witch" also came to mind (although that race was arguably less winnable).
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2022, 12:52:42 PM »

What are these from? I know Land was the 2014 Michigan nominee

Land's 2014 "Really?" ad was notoriously awful and probably cost her the race.

Christine O'Donnell decided to face accusations that she had dabbled in witchcraft as a teen head on. It didn't end well.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2022, 08:48:44 PM »

If I didn't know better, I'd say Fetterman's team had somehow gotten control of Oz's Twitter account.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2022, 05:13:39 PM »

Big news here, Fetterman will NOT attend the first senate debate


Can someone call me “a liar, a liberal, and a coward” so I can put it in my signature? What an epithet.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2022, 12:56:11 PM »


This race is now Safe D.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2022, 06:27:45 PM »

Even if the momentum is (theoretically) shifting because of the environment, I don’t know how you can objectively call the Oz campaign anything but an unmitigated disaster.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2022, 06:34:36 PM »

The combination of this thread the GA-SEN title right below it is *chef’s kiss*
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2022, 10:59:30 PM »

When you see Dr. Oz across the room.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2022, 11:56:29 AM »

Oh boy, we're in the season where I just stay home on my days off from my residency awaiting those glorious polls.  

I miss those NYT/Siena polls form 2018 where you could watch the responses live. I definitely had those running on my phone while I was supposed to be working a couple of times.
Genuinely the peak of polling as an art.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2022, 06:31:54 PM »




My first thought was: "my prissy ass flies first-class on a semi-regular basis. That looks like coach."

Truly a woman of the people right here.  
The width of those headrests? No way that's coach!
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2022, 12:10:52 PM »

Also Republican internals aren't guaranteed to be good or to show good numbers for Republicans. They're far behind Democrats on evolving.

This joke writes itself.
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2022, 12:06:21 PM »

Fetterman is gross, he's wearing a hoodie and looks dirty. I'm not saying that if you're a democrat or a leftist, you shouldn't be voting for him for that reason but come on look at him and compare him to Dr Oz. At least, he's well-dressed and looks sophisticated.

Maybe I'm wrong but Fetterman's appearance will hurt him in the philly suburbs. Romney country club never trumper republicans especially who will vote for him will hold their nose while doing it.

I seriously doubt he'll be in a hoodie tonight. Not that I think it *really* matters.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2022, 08:02:14 PM »

The abortion line was pretty stupid in a state like Pennsylvania. Obviously Roe isn't going to be the only issue in the election, but saying abortion should be "between a woman, her doctor, and local political leaders" is very stupid. Got to imagine that gem ends up in some late ads.

In a just world, that would be the takeaway tonight.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2022, 09:53:24 AM »



It looks like the attacks backfired

Per the article, most of this was pre-debate. We have yet to see a fully post-debate poll. (Although I suspect the results wouldn't be all that different.)
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2022, 12:15:24 AM »

The “Mean” Joe ad is an all-time classic — I’ve never even been to Philadelphia and I immediately knew what the Fetterman one was riffing on. This will hit, at least a little.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2022, 07:09:06 PM »

Private dinners like that are usually a high-ticket fundraiser. It’s at the very least a WEIRD choice this late in the campaign.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2022, 01:43:46 PM »

Dammit, it's not increasing quickly enough.
This is always the lull. Expect a jump at 4-6 when people get off work.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2022, 01:34:02 PM »

Does the fact that Oz still did much better than Mastriano mean there's a lot of voters who don't care if a candidate denies the 2020 election as long as they weren't at the 1/6 rally? Or is there something else I'm missing?

I certainly don’t think it can be said that Oz was a 2020 denialist. 

He didn't have to be one to get Trump's endorsement? My apologies if he's not one.

His campaign talked out of both sides of its mouth about this issue.

Here he is saying "we cannot move on" from the 2020 election.

And here's his campaign saying they accept the results of the 2020 election but insinuating that PA's current laws are responsible.
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