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« Reply #225 on: March 01, 2022, 02:54:06 AM »
« edited: March 01, 2022, 02:59:23 AM by Storr »
Quote from: brucejoel99 on March 01, 2022, 02:35:31 AM
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 02:13:56 AM
British MoD intelligence update, there's less in this one than compared to previous days:

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1498551511445553158

We've never seen an advanced modern military operate without air superiority.
The most recent I can think of would be the USAF in Korea. Soviet pilots secretly began flying for the Chinese resulting in heavy American losses in the infamous "MiG Alley". But, it's a teeny stretch to call Korea a modern conflict. Maybe one of the Pakistan-India wars didn't involve one side with air superiority? I'm not sure. Even if neither nation gained air superiority, it's a questionable argument to make that they had "advanced modern" militaries.
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« Reply #226 on: March 01, 2022, 03:10:30 AM »
Spacing? You'd need just one grenade or RPG.

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« Reply #227 on: March 01, 2022, 05:06:05 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2022, 05:29:29 AM by Storr »
Seems like old Luka might have actually done it (obviously Ukrainian source, so it could be incorrect/propaganda):

This makes me wonder about Russian Bear, if I remember correctly he's Belarusian and hasn't been online since the first or second day of fighting.

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« Reply #228 on: March 01, 2022, 05:35:32 AM »
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 05:06:05 AM
Seems like old Luka might have actually done it (obviously Ukrainian source, so it could be incorrect/propaganda):

This makes me wonder about Russian Bear, if I remember correctly he's Belarusian and hasn't been online since the first or second day of fighting.



Politico published it: https://www.politico.eu/article/belarus-russia-war-ukraine/
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« Reply #229 on: March 01, 2022, 05:56:22 AM »
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 05:35:32 AM
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 05:06:05 AM
Seems like old Luka might have actually done it (obviously Ukrainian source, so it could be incorrect/propaganda):

This makes me wonder about Russian Bear, if I remember correctly he's Belarusian and hasn't been online since the first or second day of fighting.



Politico published it: https://www.politico.eu/article/belarus-russia-war-ukraine/
Now the Independent as well. This could end very badly for the Potato King.

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« Reply #230 on: March 01, 2022, 06:07:24 AM »
Looking for twitter updates on the Belarus situation and I found it the worst take on the war:



Imagine non-ironically using cringe and based to describe a government.
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« Reply #231 on: March 01, 2022, 10:28:27 AM »
Beyond parody:

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« Reply #232 on: March 01, 2022, 10:49:49 AM »
The Russians have fully turned to Grozny tactics in Kharkiv. If you want to see some of the results, search "Харків" in twitter (WARNING extremely graphic). Evidently even more graphic images are in various war related telegram chats/channels if you've been keeping up using those.




But at least there was this one tweet that heartened me a little:

translation according to google "Our cats protect the entrance to Ukraine"
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« Reply #233 on: March 01, 2022, 11:01:08 AM »
Because this is making me so angry here are some of the non-graphic images. If this doesn't get "the West" to get involved beyond dumping weapons into Ukraine, nothing will:

"for my native Kharkiv, these bitches must answer separately"



"Kharkiv after the racist attack."
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« Reply #234 on: March 01, 2022, 11:10:51 AM »
 "Kharkiv region
 As of 16:00, as a result of an air strike between the 2nd and 3rd entrances of a five-storey residential building (6 entrances in total), 8 people died and 6 were injured, 38 were rescued, 2 of them were released from the rubble. ). The work continues."



"Karazin University. Kharkov.

 The first university in Eastern Europe, founded in 1805. This building appeared in 1930-1932. Rebuilt after the Second World [War]. Now, after the morning shelling, my university, where I sat in the classrooms and listened to lectures, looks like this:"



"Kharkiv after the air strike."



not Kharkiv, but I really don't care atm.
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« Reply #235 on: March 01, 2022, 11:23:33 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2022, 11:27:06 AM by Storr »

According comments to the first tweet below, the boundaries/regions shown within Ukraine are Ukrainian Ground Forces Operational Commands.



Video of old man pretending he's a military genius:
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« Reply #236 on: March 01, 2022, 11:41:55 AM »
So media facilities are military targets, after all. Thanks for clearing that up, Russia.

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« Reply #237 on: March 01, 2022, 11:47:22 AM »
Quote from: Flyersfan232 on March 01, 2022, 11:45:12 AM
Quote from: rc18 on March 01, 2022, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: afleitch on March 01, 2022, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 10:28:27 AM
Beyond parody:



Showing a planned attack on Moldova.

Moldova right now.


y would they polls show the pro west goverment losing to the  pro russians parties
Pro-western parties won the parliamentary elections in July, and the Presidency the previous November.
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« Reply #238 on: March 01, 2022, 11:57:10 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2022, 12:01:31 PM by Storr »
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 11:41:55 AM
So media facilities are military targets, after all. Thanks for clearing that up, Russia.



The ***** idiots missed the control center and hit the TV tower which killed at least five civilians.
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« Reply #239 on: March 01, 2022, 12:10:35 PM »
If this doesn't make you feel any kind emotion, idk man:
(with linked video of a British youtuber I enjoy, who simply likes exploring the ex-Soviet Union, riding west with Ukrainians on an earlier train)
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« Reply #240 on: March 01, 2022, 12:15:11 PM »
Who needs logistics and supply lines when you can simply loot the cities you invade?



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« Reply #241 on: March 01, 2022, 12:48:38 PM »
Free Ural-4320 and D-30 howitzer, fuel not included:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t4d96v/abandoned_russian_truck_and_d20_howitzer_mykolaiv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

My favorite comment: "More Babushka lawn ornaments!"
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« Reply #242 on: March 01, 2022, 12:59:01 PM »
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« Reply #243 on: March 01, 2022, 01:03:01 PM »
Quote from: Storr on March 01, 2022, 10:28:27 AM
Beyond parody:



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« Reply #244 on: March 01, 2022, 01:24:41 PM »
Quote from: nicholas.slaydon on March 01, 2022, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 on March 01, 2022, 01:14:23 PM

Erdogan unironically being the best NATO leader in this conflict was not something that I had predicted.
You know Putin's really messed up when I'm agreeing with Erdogan.
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« Reply #245 on: March 01, 2022, 01:34:30 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2022, 01:40:32 PM by Storr »
Supposed Spetsnaz troops (looks like Russia is running out of modern equipment either way, they're wearing rock hard soviet era rubber boots) flying over what Russian media claims is Ukraine using what look to be ancient helicopters. It was perfect material for a Fortunate Son edit. Let's hope this is Russia's Vietnam:

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« Reply #246 on: March 01, 2022, 01:47:35 PM »
Russian POWs that look at most 20 years old.

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« Reply #247 on: March 01, 2022, 02:18:28 PM »
Quote from: Clarko95 📚💰📈 on March 01, 2022, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: Clarko95 📚💰📈 on March 01, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
Swedish Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson will hold an extraordinary speech to the nation at 20:00 CET.

It will be about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Whether she will tell some breaking news? We will see...

Okay so this ended up being absolutely nothing, wow
Swedish foreign policy for the last 300 years.
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« Reply #248 on: March 01, 2022, 02:23:06 PM »
Quote from: Farmlands on March 01, 2022, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: STAND WITH UKRAINE on March 01, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Mayor Young Kim on March 01, 2022, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: BlueSwan on March 01, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: WMS on March 01, 2022, 01:35:58 PM
If you read carefully through this thread, you can determine why NATO hasn’t directly intervened.

Despite what some “Russia stronk Russian nukes WWIII” posters think, it’s not because NATO is afraid of Russia.

The goal is regime change in Russia, brought about by Putin’s own actions in Ukraine.

As long as NATO doesn’t directly intervene in Ukraine, Putin can’t use it as a rallying cry tO pRoTeCt MoThEr RuSsIa. Because sadly there absolutely are many Russians who would see it that way.

So NATO/EU/the West in general will do everything they can up to the line of direct intervention to aid Ukraine.

I understand this policy; I don’t like how hard it is on the Ukrainians, but at least I grasp the logic.
Yeah, I don't buy this at all. Banking on the Russians overthrowing Putin by themselves is a stretch at best. It could happen, but I absolutely don't see NATO counting on this.

NATO is refraining from defending Ukraine because they are scared of nuclear war and because the Americans aren't really on board with entering into another war in general. I guarantee you that NATO would be totally on board if Joe Biden tomorrow said "let's kick out those damn russians". The rest of NATO is still too weak and too fragmented.

NATO isn’t refraining from defending Ukraine, they are refraining from putting their own troops in because that’s how we’ve figured out how to do things without causing a human extinction event.
Let Russia do whatever genocide they want bcuz Putin said some empty threats that he would be unironically overthrown by his generals for if he tried to act on them.

100 percent. What's happening in Kharkiv wouldn't be the case with NATO troops present on the ground. But neither would the devastation of the entire world, because not even Putin or his generals want it, and it's insane to think they would.
Do I think Russia would use nukes is NATO troops got involved? No. They're playing a card in order to attempt to prevent NATO getting involved. I'd wager the reluctance by NATO to get involved is more due to public opinion at home. Would Americans, Britons, French, etc. be willing to accept the massive casualties that intervention would involve? But certainly leaders are worried about how Russia would react to NATO intervention, and nukes are a part of that worry.
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« Reply #249 on: March 01, 2022, 02:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Buffalo Mayor Young Kim on March 01, 2022, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: Farmlands on March 01, 2022, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: STAND WITH UKRAINE on March 01, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Mayor Young Kim on March 01, 2022, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: BlueSwan on March 01, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: WMS on March 01, 2022, 01:35:58 PM
If you read carefully through this thread, you can determine why NATO hasn’t directly intervened.

Despite what some “Russia stronk Russian nukes WWIII” posters think, it’s not because NATO is afraid of Russia.

The goal is regime change in Russia, brought about by Putin’s own actions in Ukraine.

As long as NATO doesn’t directly intervene in Ukraine, Putin can’t use it as a rallying cry tO pRoTeCt MoThEr RuSsIa. Because sadly there absolutely are many Russians who would see it that way.

So NATO/EU/the West in general will do everything they can up to the line of direct intervention to aid Ukraine.

I understand this policy; I don’t like how hard it is on the Ukrainians, but at least I grasp the logic.
Yeah, I don't buy this at all. Banking on the Russians overthrowing Putin by themselves is a stretch at best. It could happen, but I absolutely don't see NATO counting on this.

NATO is refraining from defending Ukraine because they are scared of nuclear war and because the Americans aren't really on board with entering into another war in general. I guarantee you that NATO would be totally on board if Joe Biden tomorrow said "let's kick out those damn russians". The rest of NATO is still too weak and too fragmented.

NATO isn’t refraining from defending Ukraine, they are refraining from putting their own troops in because that’s how we’ve figured out how to do things without causing a human extinction event.
Let Russia do whatever genocide they want bcuz Putin said some empty threats that he would be unironically overthrown by his generals for if he tried to act on them.

100 percent. What's happening in Kharkiv wouldn't be the case with NATO troops present on the ground. But neither would the devastation of the entire world, because not even Putin or his generals want it, and it's insane to think they would.
Did you guys miss the Cold War?

We aren’t talking about just stationing troops or making a diplomatic move, we are talking about declaring war on Russia. Do you guys not get how Putin threatening nukes because sanctions is an obvious bluff but Russia threatening nuclear retaliation if we start shooting at them is real?
I think Putin referencing using nukes at all is a bluff. He knows that if he used them, the US would be able to retaliate before they even reach the US.
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