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« Reply #125 on: February 26, 2022, 05:00:35 PM »
« edited: February 26, 2022, 05:10:31 PM by Storr »
Kyiv's importance as the capital aside, this map illustrates:

1. The importance of successfully defending Chernihiv has in limiting the number of routes available to the Russians when advancing toward Kyiv.  

2. Just how vital it is for the Ukrainians to stop the Russian advance in the south from linking up with the separatist regions
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« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2022, 05:21:19 PM »
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« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2022, 05:38:47 PM »
Quote from: Southern Delegate Punxsutawney Phil on February 26, 2022, 05:29:33 PM
Quote from: Omega21 on February 26, 2022, 05:21:00 PM
Reminder:

Remain hopeful, but not naive


It's not really helpful that both sides in this war have many of the same equipment. (Not really surprising, since they both are descended from the Soviet Red Army)
The Russians have been wearing arm bands on their arms, because both armies wear the same combat uniforms as well. I'd guess marking vehicles with white "Z" and "O" markings was done (at least in part) so that Russian and Ukrainian vehicles could be distinguished from one another.
Though one benefit for Ukraine is that they can use any Russian equipment captured since ammunition and parts are compatible.
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« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2022, 06:07:44 PM »
related:
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« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2022, 07:08:32 PM »
This, along with Russia strategic bombers using unencrypted HF radio, makes me wonder how much of Russia's plans NATO intelligence agencies already know about. They predicted the false flag operations in the Donbas and even knew the exact time of the invasion.

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« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2022, 08:01:37 PM »
Putin sending in the geriatric tank reinforcements:

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« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2022, 08:51:19 PM »
The ever strong Ukraine-New Jersey alliance:
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« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2022, 10:03:33 PM »
Free tank, slightly used, sold as-is, buyer responsible for shipping:

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« Reply #133 on: February 26, 2022, 10:22:57 PM »
I saw on twitter on the first night of the invasion (so grain of salt) that the Russians don't have proper night vision equipment needed to conduct motorized operations at night. It makes sense with all the videos of Russian columns only showing them moving during daytime.
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« Reply #134 on: February 26, 2022, 11:24:46 PM »
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« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2022, 12:13:02 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2022, 12:16:19 AM by Storr »
It's clear the political need to achieve quick victory (the longer the war goes on, the harder it is to hide the costs from the public) simply did not meet the capabilities of the Russian army, or at least the forces deployed at the Ukrainian border. I don't think the Russians are playing tactical 3D chess waiting for the moment to send in the "A team" forces. They simply either expected very little resistance or were caught off guard by the West's response to Putin's threats and had to assemble an invasion force and formulate plan of attack at the last minute.

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« Reply #136 on: February 27, 2022, 01:21:28 AM »
Evidently it was likely a Russian convoy that got lost?!?





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« Reply #137 on: February 27, 2022, 01:41:47 AM »
Infantry walking in utterly exposed with a few light vehicles in front, in broad daylight seems like not the best idea.
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« Reply #138 on: February 27, 2022, 01:44:18 AM »
Quote from: Storr on February 27, 2022, 01:41:47 AM
Infantry walking in utterly exposed with a few light vehicles in front, in broad daylight seems like not the best idea. <tweet snip>
Russia, what are you even doing?
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« Reply #139 on: February 27, 2022, 01:58:11 AM »
Why are there no machine guns mounted on the vehicle turrets?? And they left them without a sentry and the doors still open...on what looks to be a busy city street? This push into Kharkiv is really weird.
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« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2022, 02:04:36 AM »
Let us hope their operation in Kharkiv continues to go poorly. 

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« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2022, 02:13:58 AM »
Please continue to waste your ammo on soviet era static displays:
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« Reply #142 on: February 27, 2022, 02:30:55 AM »
Quote from: Storr on February 27, 2022, 02:04:36 AM
Let us hope their operation in Kharkiv continues to go poorly. 

<tweet snip>
Who could have seen this coming?
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« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2022, 03:51:52 PM »
I'm simply going to say: this would absolutely not be happening if the Russian Air Force had already gained superiority in the sky, which all analysis I read claimed it had the capability to achieve in the first 72 hours at most:
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« Reply #144 on: February 27, 2022, 04:00:49 PM »
The only way Turkey closes the Bosphorus would be if they feel Russia is too weak/preoccupied to force the strait to reopen:

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« Reply #145 on: February 27, 2022, 04:05:26 PM »
Quote from: Alcibiades on February 27, 2022, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: rc18 on February 27, 2022, 03:58:07 PM
I assume this means the Russians have brought out the thermobarics, this is gonna get real nasty.



People in the replies saying that it’s unlikely to be a thermobaric, but rather a more conventional missile perhaps striking an oil pipeline or refinery.
That's what I'd guess. The refinery attack last night (near Kyiv, I believe) resulted in a similar looking mushroom shaped cloud.
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« Reply #146 on: February 27, 2022, 04:15:02 PM »
« Edited: February 27, 2022, 04:18:52 PM by Storr »
Quote from: NOVA Green on February 27, 2022, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: Storr on February 27, 2022, 04:00:49 PM
The only way Turkey closes the Bosphorus would be if they feel Russia is too weak/preoccupied to force the strait to reopen:



Turkey is a NATO member however, so how exactly would Russia try to force the strait to reopen without triggering a broader conflict?
From what I know about naval tactics (which isn't much) you send in a flotilla/group of ships and ask to be let through. Hopefully they accept, otherwise you just motor your ships through without official permission. Shooting is avoided by the transgressing ships unless fired at, because when going through a narrow strait, your ships are easy targets for land based batteries and artillery.  I suppose it is kind of like a game of chicken, hoping the other nation blinks first. But instead of crashing your car into another coming straight at you, the bad outcome is a war.
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« Reply #147 on: February 27, 2022, 04:32:33 PM »
Translation: Demilitarization of Russians
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« Reply #148 on: February 27, 2022, 04:47:33 PM »
« Edited: February 27, 2022, 04:56:28 PM by Storr »
I'm certain the Ukrainians had the coordinates of this column quite quickly. People are claiming on twitter it was already targeted/destroyed:



I mean, it does look similar, with vehicles tightly packed together in two lines in a lightly forested area:

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« Reply #149 on: February 27, 2022, 05:01:40 PM »
Quote from: Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 on February 27, 2022, 04:55:42 PM

If Russia and Ukraine are "bother nations", Ukraine and Belarus are twins.
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