Israel-Gaza war

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Hopefully Israel can quickly and swiftly destroy Hamas

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Hopefully we stay the hell out and don't give Israel a cent.

Hopefully we give Israel , air support

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Hopefully we stay the hell out and don't give Israel a cent.

Hopefully we give Israel , air support

Not our business, not our problem. They're always fighting.

We can help Israel completely destroy Hamas

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Hopefully we stay the hell out and don't give Israel a cent.

Hopefully we give Israel , air support

Not our business, not our problem. They're always fighting.

We can help Israel completely destroy Hamas

Who tf cares about Hamas? We have hungry people in America. We're not the world's police.

Please don't go full BG-NY...

Why should be bother assisting Israel here? What good does it do? This isn't going isolationist, this is understanding that Israel is a pariah that does nothing for us.. Why is this our business? Please tell me.

We should stand with Israel over Radical Islamists regardless of what other middle eastern nations think .

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Hopefully we stay the hell out and don't give Israel a cent.

Hopefully we give Israel , air support

Not our business, not our problem. They're always fighting.

We can help Israel completely destroy Hamas

Who tf cares about Hamas? We have hungry people in America. We're not the world's police.

Please don't go full BG-NY...

Why should be bother assisting Israel here? What good does it do? This isn't going isolationist, this is understanding that Israel is a pariah that does nothing for us.. Why is this our business? Please tell me.

We should stand with Israel over Radical Islamists regardless of what other middle eastern nations think .

We should stay the hell out. Israel has also been weak in their Ukraine support.

The right doesn't care about Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359

You should know that by now. They're already propping up conspiracy theories that there isn't even a war at all ongoing in Ukraine.

Ok commie

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Hopefully we stay the hell out and don't give Israel a cent.

Hopefully we give Israel , air support

Not our business, not our problem. They're always fighting.

We can help Israel completely destroy Hamas

Who tf cares about Hamas? We have hungry people in America. We're not the world's police.

Please don't go full BG-NY...

Why should be bother assisting Israel here? What good does it do? This isn't going isolationist, this is understanding that Israel is a pariah that does nothing for us.. Why is this our business? Please tell me.

We should stand with Israel over Radical Islamists regardless of what other middle eastern nations think .

We should stay the hell out. Israel has also been weak in their Ukraine support.

The right doesn't care about Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359

You should know that by now. They're already propping up conspiracy theories that there isn't even a war at all ongoing in Ukraine.

Ok commie

Reply to my question.

I have been a far bigger supporter of Ukraine than you . You got pissed at Ukraine when they celebrated the death of the Soviet Union and said stuff like that makes you not want to support Ukraine anymore

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https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1710614655620534296

What a change for India . After decades of backing Palestine, they finally have a leader who is Pro Israel

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All of this is very sad, and also very unsurprising. This part of the world has been at war for thousands of years and I don't see that ending in the next thousand.

The Middle East wasn't inherently any more violent of a place than, say, Europe, prior to 1945. This current tragedy is the result of decades of deliberate policy choices by the Israeli state.

No , the reason the Middle East is violent is because of radical Islamists who want to destroy all non Islamic religions

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All of this is very sad, and also very unsurprising. This part of the world has been at war for thousands of years and I don't see that ending in the next thousand.

The Middle East wasn't inherently any more violent of a place than, say, Europe, prior to 1945. This current tragedy is the result of decades of deliberate policy choices by the Israeli state.

No , the reason the Middle East is violent is because of radical Islamists who want to destroy all non Islamic religions

I too have not read about any historical events before September 11th, 2001.

Radical Islamists hate Israel because they couldn’t stand the idea of a Jewish nation existing . That’s why they have tried to destroy it multiple times since 1948. It’s also why they hate India , because they can’t stand the idea of a majority Hindu nation existing either.

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BJP already linking India's fairly small Muslim insurgency to Hamas
https://twitter.com/BJP4India/status/1710691137558810637

India is the modern Nazi Germany and no one outside the subcontinent really cares.

Lmao

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I just got off the phone with my mother. I had not realized that my grandmother is actually in Israel at this time, visiting a cousin. This cousin works for the State Department and they are in a safe location. This got wrenchingly personal very fast.

Hopefully your grandpa and your cousin stay safe .

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I don't support u.s. involvement in this.


I also want the war to end. Too many innocent lives are ruined due to this conflict.

I... agree with DeadPrez. Strange times.

He supports a Ron Paul style foreign policy so no surprise

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Dumb move by Palestine but I’ll not shed fake tears for Israel considering all the history of this conflict either. That’s exactly what they were waiting and hoping for, some excuse to get into direct war without getting too bad of a PR in the West. Would honestly be wonderful if both sides could lose. We’re talking about an imperialist apartheid regime oppressing an Islamic theocracy that violates the human rights of minorities.

Naturally, the Western and White Imperialist countries will side with Israel because that’s who they identify with better and the Islamic Dictatorships will side with Palestine because it’s the one culturally closer to them as well.

India sides with Israel here. So there goes your bs global south alliance

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Dumb move by Palestine but I’ll not shed fake tears for Israel considering all the history of this conflict either. That’s exactly what they were waiting and hoping for, some excuse to get into direct war without getting too bad of a PR in the West. Would honestly be wonderful if both sides could lose. We’re talking about an imperialist apartheid regime oppressing an Islamic theocracy that violates the human rights of minorities.

Naturally, the Western and White Imperialist countries will side with Israel because that’s who they identify with better and the Islamic Dictatorships will side with Palestine because it’s the one culturally closer to them as well.

India sides with Israel here. So there goes your bs global south alliance

Lmao it’s so funny how you dense you people are about geopolitics. Are you even aware of India-Pakistan tensions?

You keep having this automatic alignment “side” mentality inherited from Cold War without not even grasping the concept of current multilateralism.

You are the one who talks about the global north vs south like it is some second cold war, OSR may have the geopolitical understanding of a toddler but you are throwing crayons from your own crib.

On economic interests, we definitely have very direct opposing interests between the countries that want to emerge and the ones that want to protect their standing.

Doesn’t mean interests cannot align on multiple other matters, including well, Culture and Religion. Economic independence is one major thing but there are tons of others.

If anyone sees India position on Israel as “siding with the West” and NOT about “opening precedents in their dispute with Islamic Pakistan” then they’re just being ignorant or pretending to be. India is an independent country that deserves much more respect for its agency than the one you people give to it.

Yes but its the same reason why India wouldnt side with China over the US like you keep implying lol. India's geopolitical interests are directly threatened by China

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

We should threaten to get involved on behalf of Israel if thats the case.

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

We must not let Israel fall under any circumstance. The history over the past many centuries show that when there is no Jewish country existing , it leads to horrible oppression and we cannot stand by and let that ever happen again. The fact is Jews need a refuge from potential oppression and that is why a Jewish nation must exist

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

We must not let Israel fall under any circumstance. The history over the past many centuries show that when there is no Jewish country existing , it leads to horrible oppression and we cannot stand by and let that ever happen again. The fact is Jews need a refuge from potential oppression and that is why a Jewish nation must exist

We should provide as much help to Israel as they were willing to give to Ukraine.

This is a lol worthy comparison . Yes Israel should support Ukraine more but we should not let a situation arise where Jews have no potential refuge from oppression like it existed for centuries.

If forced to choose , I would say its more important from a Humanitarian perspective for Israel to be saved because there are many nations that could be a potential refuge for Ukrainians as there are many Christian Countries on the planet while there is only one Jewish nation.

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

You sound like an 8 year old. This is pathetic.

Except we have the capability to do exactly what I said .

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

We must not let Israel fall under any circumstance. The history over the past many centuries show that when there is no Jewish country existing , it leads to horrible oppression and we cannot stand by and let that ever happen again. The fact is Jews need a refuge from potential oppression and that is why a Jewish nation must exist

We should provide as much help to Israel as they were willing to give to Ukraine.

This is a lol worthy comparison . Yes Israel should support Ukraine more but we should not let a situation arise where Jews have no potential refuge from oppression like it existed for centuries.

If forced to choose , I would say its more important from a Humanitarian perspective for Israel to be saved because there are many nations that could be a potential refuge for Ukrainians as there are many Christian Countries on the planet while there is only one Jewish nation.

What does the US get in return?

We are not standing up for democratic values since Israel is not a democracy.

Ensuring a Jewish Nation exists. Something are more important than a democracy and given the oppression Jews have faced over the centuries, them having a nation is more important than Israel being a democracy.

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By the way, literally the only person in this thread suggesting direct US military assistance is OSR. Please do not conflate everyone else with him. Most other people know full well Israel fights alone as it always has and is damned good at it (for better and worse) and neither needs nor wants foreign direct military intervention in its fights.

To prevent Iran from getting involved and I oppose sending ground troops as well. I would just support using our air power to cripple the offensive capabilities of Iran if they intervene.

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Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

We must not let Israel fall under any circumstance. The history over the past many centuries show that when there is no Jewish country existing , it leads to horrible oppression and we cannot stand by and let that ever happen again. The fact is Jews need a refuge from potential oppression and that is why a Jewish nation must exist

And if the USA is stupid enough to do that. It gives China the opportunity to invade Taiwan while your planes are fighting to protect Bibi

You really no nothing about our military capabilities lol. Our military is designed to fight major wars in multiple front's at the same time and the level of intervention I am talking about would not require us too:


- Move any of our aircraft carriers out of the pacific. Keep in mind our Navy alone has stronger air power than any other nation's military

- We would not send a single ground troop here

[OSR stands with Israel]

Worst case scenario for this war is that the larger Arab superpowers get involved. If it’s mostly Israel vs. Hamas Israel would win easily.

Let Israel and Iran destroy each other.

It's a win-win: two authoritarian states destroy one another.

Hell no, if Iran declares war on Israel then we should provide Israel with air support. Let's see how Iran would like to deal with the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen and especially the greatest air power the world has ever seen.

We must not let Israel fall under any circumstance. The history over the past many centuries show that when there is no Jewish country existing , it leads to horrible oppression and we cannot stand by and let that ever happen again. The fact is Jews need a refuge from potential oppression and that is why a Jewish nation must exist

And if the USA is stupid enough to do that. It gives China the opportunity to invade Taiwan while your planes are fighting to protect Bibi

You really no nothing about our military capabilities lol. Our military is designed to fight major wars in multiple front's at the same time and the level of intervention I am talking about would not require us too:


- Move any of our aircraft carriers out of the pacific. Keep in mind our Navy alone has stronger air power than any other nation's military

- We would not send a single ground troop here

But your actions would actively trigger a third world war. I don't doubt the USA's ability to win on all of these fronts decisively but a war where nukes are used doesn't have any winners.

That has nothing to do with whether or not we intervene on behalf of Israel . If China would use nukes to prevent our intervention in Taiwan that would happen regardless of what we do in the Middle East

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Also funny how the whole sovereign state thing applies to Jews but not Sikhs in OSRville.

This is such an disingenuous comparison

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/4243414-medvedev-says-hamas-attacks-expected-development/

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Hamas’ widespread attacks on Israel Saturday “come as an expected development,” using the opportunity to denounce U.S. influence in the Middle East and in Ukraine.

The Palestinian militant group launched the largest attack on Israel in decades early Saturday, invading multiple Israeli towns and launching missiles into the country.

The Palestinian government claimed that about 200 people have died, while the Israeli government said there have been about 40 deaths.

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https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1711056318801248531?s=12
Israel is starting to really hammer Gaza

great news, hopefully it continues for a good long while until the terrorists who committed these attacks and those who harbor them have been completely destroyed.

You are greatly mistaken if you think the oppressed can be bombed into oblivion.

There will always be a resistance.

The only lasting solution is to give them a place of their own to live.

The only lasting solution is for the radical Islamists to unconditionally surrender