Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

FBI just cleared Trump of Jan Commission of inciting violence, so Commission really doesn't mean much anymore, time to let things go and move on

As Afghanistan has taken over news cycle

[GeorgiaModerate]

NBC News, Aug. 14-17, 1000 adults including 790 RV (change from April)

Adults:

Approve 49 (-4)
Disapprove 48 (+9)

Strongly approve 22 (-7)
Strongly disapprove 41 (+8)

RV:

Approve 50 (-1)
Disapprove 48 (+5)

Strongly approve 23 (-5)
Strongly disapprove 42 (+6)

[GeorgiaModerate]

CBS News/YouGov, Aug. 18-20, 2142 adults (1-month change)

Approve 50 (-8)
Disapprove 50 (+8)

Strongly approve 23 (-7)
Strongly disapprove 36 (+5)

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

the Approvals remain steady

 

NBC News, Aug. 14-17, 1000 adults including 790 RV (change from April)

Adults:

Approve 49 (-4)
Disapprove 48 (+9)

Strongly approve 22 (-7)
Strongly disapprove 41 (+8)

RV:

Approve 50 (-1)
Disapprove 48 (+5)

Strongly approve 23 (-5)
Strongly disapprove 42 (+6)

Generic Ballot D+1 (-4 since April).

Perhaps noise, perhaps temporal, but it doesn't only affect Approvals.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

the Approvals remain steady

 

NBC News, Aug. 14-17, 1000 adults including 790 RV (change from April)

Adults:

Approve 49 (-4)
Disapprove 48 (+9)

Strongly approve 22 (-7)
Strongly disapprove 41 (+8)

RV:

Approve 50 (-1)
Disapprove 48 (+5)

Strongly approve 23 (-5)
Strongly disapprove 42 (+6)

Generic Ballot D+1 (-4 since April).

Perhaps noise, perhaps temporal, but it doesn't only affect Approvals.

NPVI 2020 50/45

That's very close to what we have now, Biden got a temp bump he said VACCINE IN ARMS AND 1400 CHECKS, EVERYONE EXCEPT PEOPLE GETTING 2400 PENSION CHECKS SHOULD GET 600 LIKE LAST YR, THE Stimulus monies ran out

[ꙮ]

A summary of the post-Afghanistan polling:

-13 points in Reuters/Ipsos net approval
-3 points in YouGov net approval
-11 in Ipsos net approval
-10 in AP/NORC net approval
-13 in NBC net approval
-16 in CBS net approval

That’s a pretty big hit to take in a few days. He could certainly get it back at some point, but we’re looking at neutral or slight negative approvals for the near future.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There hasn't been once successful international Terrorist attack because we have Real IDs and cockpit doors locked and full body scanners on Airplanes.

There have been bombings at Embassies that's why they are closed, but of course, Covid has also hurt ISIL chances of international Terrorist attack, if there are still Terroritorists, there are drones nearjlby to kill them or capture them or send them to GITMO

Taliban don't like ISIL either, all three groups are fighting each other

The media overblown this story to get viewership just like we know it's a 304 map and the polls keep showing close races in FL, for viewership.

Biden is fine unless there is an international Terrorist attack, 911 was done on Bush W watch because he didn't go to Camp David after he was warned about Bin Laden plot, he went to TX allowing Terroritorists to fully develop plan, Gore like Biden would of went to Camp David

[Bootes Void]

It's not just that, the Covid situation and the economy have gotten worse. He hasn't signed any big legislation since the Covid legislation back in March along with the honeymoon wearing off.

[roxas11]

Based on 538 it looks like Afghanistan is already starting to fade as an issue

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Biden dropped to his lowest on august 20 when he hit 48.9 percent for the first time, but today he has jumped back up to 49.4

I suspect that Biden will see a boost to his approval if he actually does end up successfully passing the rest of his domestic agenda. Plus, when it comes to Covid Biden may also benefit from the FDA finally giving full approval to the vaccines

[Matty]

It’s not just Afghanistan. His ratings were falling before that

According to the nbc poll today, the American rescue plan is underwater by 3 points

Right track/wrong track is 29-63

These are not numbers you want to see as the party in power

[SnowLabrador]

Based on 538 it looks like Afghanistan is already starting to fade as an issue

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Biden dropped to his lowest on august 20 when he hit 48.9 percent for the first time, but today he has jumped back up to 49.4

I suspect that Biden will see a boost to his approval if he actually does end up successfully passing the rest of his domestic agenda. Plus, when it comes to Covid Biden may also benefit from the FDA finally giving full approval to the vaccines

They had better. This country, and the planet, cannot afford a red wave.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Based on 538 it looks like Afghanistan is already starting to fade as an issue

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Biden dropped to his lowest on august 20 when he hit 48.9 percent for the first time, but today he has jumped back up to 49.4

I suspect that Biden will see a boost to his approval if he actually does end up successfully passing the rest of his domestic agenda. Plus, when it comes to Covid Biden may also benefit from the FDA finally giving full approval to the vaccines

They had better. This country, and the planet, cannot afford a red wave.

I am for D's, but did we suffer that much when we had Gingrich Revolution that brought Bush W and R Congress in, no we didn't, get over it, Biden promised Stimulus checks and Eradicating COVID, and now the FBI has cleared Trp, it's still a 304 map, but a red wave won't make any difference


Covid like Hepititis C and TB are diseases spreader bye homeless people not a virus spreader by Norm human contact. Alot of homeless people have diabetes that affect A1C and red blood c
Solution stop giving grants for immigrants coming in and getting section 8 vouchers and give it to Covid victims you would end TB and Covid if you eradicate homelessness, but they won't do it, Pelosi has had homelessness in SF for the longest

That's why Biden didn't get rid of it, LA has Skid Row and most of Covid cases come from Skid Row, we had a TB epidemic before Covid

The Shelters are closed nationwide, but Food pantries are open. It must be sure in order for you to get into a Shelter and you have to go thru a rigorous interview process and only can stay six months to a yr until you find a job, no more living rent free

[roxas11]

It’s not just Afghanistan. His ratings were falling before that

According to the nbc poll today, the American rescue plan is underwater by 3 points

Right track/wrong track is 29-63

These are not numbers you want to see as the party in power

This is true

Biden approval was slowly declining before the Afghanistan withdrawal but there is no question that Afghanistan was the main reason why he experienced the biggest poll drops of his presidency

The fact that Biden approval ratings are starting to recover despite the fact the covid situation has not changed that much at all of the last few days makes it clear to me that the negative Afghanistan coverage was the main reason why his poll number took a hit. But now that Afghanistan is starting to fade his poll numbers are going back up again

had covid been main reason for Biden, seeing record low poll numbers than there is no way his approval would be recovering like it currently is right now    

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's been a 304 map since Election night, Biden only got a bump during SOTU due to fact he had Covid cases go down and everyone got 1400 and now he is back to 50/45 like he was on Election night

pbower2A thinks NC is a solid D state and it has an R veto proof Majority

Robert Gibbs, Nate Silver and Plouffe has been on MSNBC, saying that, James Carville whom recruited Demings in FL Senate was the only one deviating, now he admits it now, and now says that it's gonna be a long night for D's in the House but still can wind up with a narrow Majority with a 52/48 Senate giving us DC Statehood

[roxas11]

Honestly, what amazes me the most about Biden numbers when I look at 538 is that even at his lowest he still, is way more popular than ever was Trump ever was. Biden is more popular in the middle of worsening pandemic and chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal than Trump was during a booming economy.....

That would scare the heck out of me if was a republican who was thinking about running in 2024 because despite trump bad poll numbers he still barely lost in 2020

That means that technically all Biden or even Harris would need to do is be slightly more popular than trump was in 2020 and they will win the 2024 election lol

[roxas11]

Honestly, what amazes me the most about Biden numbers when I look at 538 is that even at his lowest he still, is way more popular than ever was Trump ever was. Biden is more popular in the middle of worsening pandemic and chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal than Trump was during a booming economy.....

That would scare the heck out of me if was a republican who was thinking about running in 2024 because despite trump bad poll numbers he still barely lost in 2020

that means that technically all Biden or even Harris would need to do is be slightly more popular than trump was in 2020 and they will win the 2024 election lol

[b]Try and convince yourself first.[/b]

convince myself of what?

trump was not a well liked guy and it is honestly shocking that his number was that bad when the economy was doing really well

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Roxas was strongly in favor of the 2K checks and now that Biden hasn't proposed it any longer like alot of users on this Forum, they forget about the stimulus and move to strongly support the infrastructure.

That 2K stimulus was solely based on life returning to normal now, because he said vaccine in arms will get people back to work Unemployment and UBI payments aren't being renewed, and when it comes to state stimulus if you don't qualify for EITC you don't qualify for a stimulus


Yangs UBI plan when he was candidate for Prez said that's it's an annual thing, not a condition based UBI thing, and life hasn't returned to normal

[pbrower2a]

A summary of the post-Afghanistan polling:

-13 points in Reuters/Ipsos net approval
-3 points in YouGov net approval
-11 in Ipsos net approval
-10 in AP/NORC net approval
-13 in NBC net approval
-16 in CBS net approval

That’s a pretty big hit to take in a few days. He could certainly get it back at some point, but we’re looking at neutral or slight negative approvals for the near future.

... but it is not out of range for a Biden victory in 2024 were this in February 2024. I do not predict the dynamics of polling results or the results of any polls. At most I have interpolated.  

Bad news happens. How leaders respond tests their competence.

[roxas11]

Roxas was strongly in favor of the 2K checks and now that Biden hasn't proposed it any longer like alot of users on this Forum, they forget about the stimulus and move to strongly support the infrastructure.

That 2K stimulus was solely based on life returning to normal now Unemployment and UBI payments aren't being renewed, and when it comes to state stimulus if you don't qualify for EITC you don't qualify for a stimulus

now Kanye you know this is not true
I have never been against giving out more stimulus, especially during a worsening pandemic

I just think that we all know that the people who really control democrat party will never vote for it

[President Johnson]

The public hast lost its collective mind if - any I say a big if - they actually want the Republican Party just remotely back in power. After what they have done the last couple of years, an anti-intellectual, anti-science, voter suppressing and racebaiting party that in large parts openly despises democracy and either embraced or downplayed an insurrection/coup attempt should have no business in governing and winning elections for the rest of this decade. For four years, they have embraced or ignored corruption, selfenrichment, utter neglance and gross incompetence at the highest levels of government. I can't really comprehend how anyone would want this back?

I know the Democrats aren't prefect and especially need to get better in explaining their policies, but come on. They're not remotely the same. Does anyone think Cuomo would have been gone as a Republican? Just to name one out of dozens examples. The Republican Party of today needs to be completely destroyed and then rebuild as a sane right of center, conservative party. And Trump and his cronies finally need to be held accountable for their wrongdoings.

[DaleCooper]

I think a bigger longterm threat to Biden's approval ratings will be the confusion surrounding COVID-19. Regardless of how anyone in this thread feels, our government's messaging basically went from "If you get vaccinated, you get your life back to normal" to "If you get vaccinated, you're still at risk and a risk to others and need to keep wearing masks and now need to get vaccinated again every 8 months and even then you probably still aren't safe." That's ultimately going to be much more frustrating to American voters than Afghanistan which is more complicated since even those who disapprove of him wanted us out of the region.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Whitmer is only up by one, NC isn't strong D

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

The public hast lost its collective mind if - any I say a big if - they actually want the Republican Party just remotely back in power. After what they have done the last couple of years, an anti-intellectual, anti-science, voter suppressing and racebaiting party that in large parts openly despises democracy and either embraced or downplayed an insurrection/coup attempt should have no business in governing and winning elections for the rest of this decade. For four years, they have embraced or ignored corruption, selfenrichment, utter neglance and gross incompetence at the highest levels of government. I can't really comprehend how anyone would want this back?

At least a Republican wouldn't allow an unlawful eviction ban to persist for months under his administration. Oh, wait...

Even if you take the harshest view of the Biden administration possible, the national GOP has nothing to offer but a different flavor of chaos. Then again, elections are choices. People will have to pick one or the other as their passions dictate even if neither option is appealing.

At least the national GOP isn't going to excessively extend unemployment payments, or completely disregard the SCOTUS to keep an eviction ban up. And they aren't going to bow down to teacher unions inane demands for mask mandates and other shenanigans.


Not sure if I'm a very big fan of this $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill either. I know it's not going to pass as is (thank god) though, so let's see if Manchin/Sinema are able to trim some of the waste.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

But, but, but pbower2A says NC is strong D, NOT, on his Approval rating

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Based on 538 it looks like Afghanistan is already starting to fade as an issue

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Biden dropped to his lowest on august 20 when he hit 48.9 percent for the first time, but today he has jumped back up to 49.4

Ahem.. During same time his disapprovals went up from 45.2 to 46.2, so his net still went down. Marginally, yes, by 0.5%, but down. Plus, there will always be some noise day to day or even week to week.

It’s not just Afghanistan. His ratings were falling before that

According to the nbc poll today, the American rescue plan is underwater by 3 points

Right track/wrong track is 29-63

These are not numbers you want to see as the party in power

This is true

Biden approval was slowly declining before the Afghanistan withdrawal but there is no question that Afghanistan was the main reason why he experienced the biggest poll drops of his presidency

I don't know if there is no questions about it. It depends on which date most people really start to understand it was a mess. Depending on this date Biden could have lost from 30% to 70% before Afghanistan.

I would argue that most people don't really follow the news. Kabul fell August 15th, and the most horrid videos started to popping 16-18th August? When did most Americans see that? 16th? 17th? Or perhaps 20th? I don't know. As I said, most people just live their lives.

But, for instance, NBC poll that came out today and showed 13 drop (since April among all adults) was done 14-17 Aug. So, perhaps, most of this drop came before sh**t hit the fan. It's just my speculations, obviously, but it isn't as clear as you imply it is, imo.

The other thing, that kinda back me up, is that Americans approve of Biden’s response to the coronavirus crisis went down as well. It was very steady for a half year at about 62/32 (+30), then at beginning of July it started to went down. Today it at 53/41 (+12). Still good, much worse then before.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/coronavirus-polls/

Similar with economy
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_biden_job_approval_economy-7321.html


Will Biden re-bound, at least a little? I'd say (much?) more likely yes, than no. We'll see.